May 17, 2021 Adjourned City Council

WE SHOULD BE GOODSIR. WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT FOUR THIRTY

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, MR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER LAU PAZ COUNCIL MEMBER CARDER KRESS COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY HERE.

MUIR PRO TEM DAVIS PRESENT HEPBURN HERE.

[3. The City Council will meet for a Study Session on the Preliminary Budget for Fiscal Year 2021-22 and on the Capitol Improvement Programs.]

WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, NO, WE'VE GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT THERE BEING PROBLEMS AND GAPS, IT'S ABOUT THE QUALITY THAT WAS BEING USED.

SO WE HAD TO LOWER IT A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE HAVE OPTIONS THERE FOR PEOPLE.

SO IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING BUFFERING ISSUES, WE ASK YOU TO USE THAT LOWER RESOLUTION ONE AND THAT SHOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

SO THANK YOU FOR POINTING IT OUT.

YES, MR. MAYOR, I SHOULD MENTION WE HAVE TO FINISH TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM IN REVERSE ORDER OF WHAT IS LISTED ON THE AGENDA, AND THAT IS GO WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FIRST.

SEAN IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION.

HE'S GOING TO LAY OUT WHAT YOUR PROJECTS ARE THAT ARE PREPARED TO BE FUNDED FOR THE COMING YEAR, JUST AS A SUMMARY.

AND THEN ALSO ONE OF THE NEW PROJECTS THAT WE HAD TO THE FIFTH YEAR.

AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PLANNING DOCUMENT TO GIVE US KIND OF A GUIDE TO WORK FOR AND PREPARE AND HELP FUND THE PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR SO.

THE STUFF IN THE MIDDLE HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT IT'S REALLY THE STUFF ON BOTH ENDS THAT IS A LOT MORE RELEVANT.

SO WITH THAT AND THEN IN BOTH OF THESE PRESENTATIONS AFTER WE'RE DONE, WE'RE REALLY NOT LOOKING FOR WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR FORMAL ACTION FROM THE COUNCIL JUST FOR DIRECTION AND CONSENSUS THAT WE ARE OK TO BRING THESE OVER FOR FINAL APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET AND THE SCHEDULE FOR JUNE.

TWENTY FIRST MEETING FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

OK, SO WITH THAT, JOHN, TERRIFIC, THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

SO THE CITY WILL BE GOING OVER WHAT OUR SKYPE LOOKS LIKE FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR AND THEN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC PROJECTS FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF ITEMS SUCH AS THE GENERAL PLAN, SPECIFIC PLAN AND MASTER PLANS.

THE SEAT TYPE IS REALLY A TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO COORDINATE INTERNALLY WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENTS WITH OTHER AGENCIES LIKE PAMONA, CLAREMONT, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND ALSO OTHER UTILITIES SUCH AS KEESEY OR THE GAS COMPANY SO THAT WE DON'T DUPLICATE OUR WORK AND WE DON'T HAVE STREETS BEING DUG UP WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BEING REDONE.

FINALLY, IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE A STRONG FINANCIAL PLAN TO ENSURE WE IDENTIFY FUNDING SOURCES SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

SO WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE THE POWERPOINT OUT AVAILABLE? THE. OF.

SO FAR. OK.

CAN YOU ALL SEE THE. NO, NO.

I SEE YOU GUYS, I SEE EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO WE NEED TO WE'RE GOING TO DO OR WE NEED TO GET A SHARE SPRINGIER.

HERE WE GO. THE DEFENSE GROUP.

SORT OF. SPONGEBOB.

OK, ALL RIGHT, NOW SCROLL BACK UP.

I THINK WE'RE. THE NEXT PART, PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, AS OF TODAY, AS OF TWENTY THIRTEEN TO TODAY, WE'VE DELIVERED ABOUT TWENTY EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECTS SINCE THIS PROGRAM WAS PUT TOGETHER, WHICH IS DEFINITELY A GREAT ENDEAVOR BY MANY PARTIES AND MANY PEOPLE IN THE

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WE HAVE ANOTHER FORTY ONE PROJECTS IN TOTALITY WHICH WILL BE CREATING OUT TO THIRTY NINE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN WITH THAT, EVEN WITH OUR GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTIONS AND OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS TO WATER FUND, THINGS LIKE THAT, ONLY ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THESE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED.

KEEP IN MIND THAT THE OTHER THIRD OF THAT IS REALLY THROUGH GRANTS AND OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVEN'T SECURED THOSE FUNDS YET.

BUT WE DO HAVE WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THOSE GRANT FUNDS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I.

SO IN TWENTY, TWENTY, TWENTY, TWENTY ONE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, YEAR 17 OF THE TWENTY FIVE FUNDED PROJECTS WERE COMPLETED.

SO SOME OF THEM ARE KIND OF BEING FINALIZED OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

BUT WE WILL HAVE A TOTAL OF 17 COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

OUT OF THAT, EIGHT PROJECTS WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

FIVE PROJECTS WILL BE REPROGRAMED INTO OTHER FISCAL YEARS, WHICH REALLY ALLOWS US TO BALANCE NOT ONLY THE FUNDING AVAILABILITY, BUT ALSO STAFF WORKLOAD TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT OVER WORKING OUR STAFF AND THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY FACILITATE THESE PROJECTS BEING COMPLETED FOR THE TWENTY TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO SIPI LIST.

WE HAVE 16 PROJECTS THAT, AS I SAID, WERE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT FULLY FUNDED PENDING GRANT APPROVALS. WE DO HAVE ONE THAT WE ARE WAITING ON GRANT APPROVAL AND THAT'S FOR ABOUT TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS SLIDE, GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THIS NEXT YEAR CIPA LOOKS LIKE OUT OF THE SIX POINT NINE DOLLARS MILLION, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THAT THE PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PROGRAM, WATERLAND REPAIRS, SEWER LINE REPAIRS, THOSE ARE ALL ONGOING PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEN WE AFTER THAT, WE GET INTO REALLY WHAT ARE THE THE ONE OFF PROJECTS SUCH AS TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR IMPEDES IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH REALLY GOES INTO CAPTURING STORM WATER THAT COMES OFF INTO OUR INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE OUR PLATEAU'S SEGMENT WATER LINE REPLACEMENT, MANARA SQUARE STAGE, AND THE LIST GOES ON. SO WE DO HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE DO HAVE IN THE QUEUE.

I WANT TO POINT OUT AT THE BOTTOM THERE, THE HARROW HIGHWAY URBAN GRADING GRANT THAT GRANT WAS SECURED THANKS TO ANTHONY.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT PROJECT IN PLACE NEXT, IF I MAY.

THAT PROJECT IS ALSO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF AMONA.

SO WE WILL A CALL GRANT.

WE ASSURE THAT COUNCIL THAT WE GOT OUT WORK A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

THERE WILL BE A CONTRIBUTION AMOUNT, I'LL CALL IT, BY BOTH PARTIES, IN ADDITION TO THE GRANT TO HELP COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

BUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE PROJECT WILL BE FUNDED BY THE GRANT.

SO PERFECT.

SO FOR OUR FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE FORTY ONE PROJECTS PROGRAM THROUGH TWENTY TWENTY SIX. TWENTY SEVEN, THE TOTAL VALUE OF THIRTY NINE POINT TWO DOLLARS MILLION WHICH ARE FINANCED OVER TWENTY THREE FUNDING SOURCES.

THIS REALLY EQUATES OUT TO VARIOUS FUNDS, SUCH AS RESEARCH FUNDS FROM THE WATER FUND, SEWER FUND, UNRESTRICTIVE TO GENERAL FUND.

AND THEN WE HAVE ITEMS SUCH AS THE GAS TAX MEASURE R MEASURE M, ITEMS SUCH AS THAT.

SO FOR THE THE THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT THAT NEW PROJECT, THIS THE SIX NEW PROJECTS REQUESTED FOR TWENTY TWENTY SIX TWENTY SEVEN INCLUDE REPLACEMENT OF AIR CONDITIONING UNITS OF FIRE STATION TO KOONCE PARKING LEAVE BATHROOM UPDATES KRESS REDUCING VALVE FOR OUR WATER SYSTEM AND THEN THIRD STREET WATER LINE REPLACEMENT AND VETERANS HALL KITCHEN UPGRADES. THE SIPI CONTINUES TO RELY HEAVILY ON GRANT FUNDS.

AS I MENTIONED, ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT IS RELIANT ON GRANT FUNDS, THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN ALSO THE PARKS DEVELOPMENT FUND.

CURRENTLY OUR FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK, WE'RE ANTICIPATING ABOUT A ONE MILLION DOLLAR SHORTFALL IN THE GENERAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, WHICH BASICALLY EQUATES TO SCHOOL PROJECTS NOT BEING COMPLETED NEXT.

THANK YOU. SO, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, TO WRAP THINGS UP, AS I MENTIONED, FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE ARE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED, WHICH IS GREAT.

AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, WE DO HAVE SOME CONTRIBUTIONS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT SO POOR DECISIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

WE'RE HOPING TO GET ANOTHER TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO REALLY HELP AUGMENT SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FUNDING SOURCES.

AND AGAIN, WE RELY HEAVILY ON GRANT FUNDING.

THIS EQUATES OUT TO THE FOURTEEN POINT SEVEN DOLLARS MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER THE COURSE OF THE FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN OUR OUR GENERAL FUND, AS I MENTIONED, IS BECAUSE OF THAT LACK OF FUNDING FOR THE

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AGAIN, WE COULD HAVE FUNDING AND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE COULD GET THESE FUNDED.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED, WE'RE ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO BE SHORT ABOUT SIX PROJECTS.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE GENERAL FUND DOES SUPPORT COMMUNITY WIDE ENHANCEMENTS, WHILE OTHER SOURCES TYPICALLY SUPPORT SPECIFIC OPERATIONAL FUNCTIONS, SUCH AS WATER LINE REPLACEMENT, SEWER LINE REPLACEMENT, SEWER SYSTEM UPGRADES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND THAT'S ALL I THANK YOU, SEAN.

AND I'LL OPEN IT UP TO COUNSEL QUESTIONS IN A MINUTE.

BUT I DO WANT TO POINT BACK TO THAT SECOND BULLET AND THE.

ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE MADE IN PUTTING THE CIA TOGETHER AND YOU'LL SEE IT IN MY PRESENTATION, THE GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION, BECAUSE OF THE DEFICIT THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE AT THIS POINT, DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE CONTRIBUTION TO BE MADE IN THIS NEXT YEAR.

COMING UP, HOWEVER, IN ANTICIPATION BASED ON THE DIRECTION COUNCIL MEMBER PREVIOUSLY AS IT RELATES TO THE SALE OF AMHERST'S, I FELT THAT WE COULD FOREGO THAT AT LEAST IN THE CURRENT YEAR AND STILL BE ABLE TO REPLENISH WHAT WE WERE SHORT.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT AS PART OF MY PRESENTATION.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET FURTHER DIRECTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN, WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR AIGO.

COMMENTS. ANYBODY THERE, NO, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT WERE I KNOW THIS IS THIS IS MUIR. I GUESS I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT, THAT THE ANNUAL FUNDING THAT THE GENERAL FUND HAS BEEN MAKING TOWARDS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN HAS ONLY BEEN A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

BUT IT WAS INTERRUPTED THE LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF COVID WAS INTERRUPTED BY A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE THAT AS PART OF THE FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN AS WELL.

RIGHT. RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU FOR TAKING US FURTHER BACK.

YEAH. SO SO IT'S A IT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE OCCASIONALLY INTERRUPT.

BUT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN SAFE STREETS AND WELL FUNDED STREETS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THIS PROGRAM GOING.

SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

CROSBY. YEAH.

AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS FOR THE TWENTY ONE AND TWENTY TWO YEAR, THE PROJECT NUMBER, THE FIRST NUMBER WAS, IS LIKE LIKE FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WHEELER SOUTH THAT WAS PROPOSED TO BE DONE IN TWENTY FIFTEEN.

CORRECT. THAT IS FIFTY TWO.

AND SO IF WE LOOK AT THOSE THE PROJECTS FOR NEXT YEAR, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ROLLED OVER FROM YEARS PAST THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLETE THIS YEAR.

SO THEY'RE NOT ALL JUST THIS YEAR.

I REALLY APPRECIATE SHOT.

I HAVEN'T HAD TO SPEAK WITH YOU ONE ON ONE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE SPEAKING WITH DAN LAST YEAR AND GOING THROUGH AND HOW YOU DIE, HOW YOU, HIM, AND NOW YOU DEVELOP THE PLAN REALLY FORWARD THINKING RATHER THAN WHAT JUST COMES UP. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR EMERGENCES YEAR.

THOSE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE AND ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT PLACE, BUT REALLY FORWARD THINKING AND BUDGETARY RIGHT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND TRYING TO PLAN THOSE OUT AND APPRECIATE THAT.

AND LOOKING AT THAT TO TODAY'S PROPOSAL, YOU HAVE OVER HALF OF THEM ARE TRYING TO GET ONES FROM YEARS PAST, BUT THINGS HAPPEN AS WELL.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE WELL PLANNING OUT FOR THE OF THE PLANS.

QUESTION TO COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBER LAU COUNCIL MEMBER CARDER NO, I REITERATE THAT MR. I WELCOME TO OUR TEAM HERE AND THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS COUNCIL MEMBER A DAVIS STATED WE DID WHEN WE WERE BEFORE THEY CAME ON.

THERE WAS SOME TIME TO GET TOUGH.

AND BUT IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO KEEP THIS CAPITAL PROJECTS GOING BECAUSE THEY REALLY DO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY NEAT, CLEAN.

SABR, I DID HAVE A AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE STAFF AND ALL THIS IS A LOT OF WORK.

IT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO PUT TOGETHER.

IT TAKES TIME. IT TAKES RESOURCES.

BUT WE MUST STAY DILIGENT ON THIS AND TRY TO KEEP THE MONEY IN THERE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW THE DIRECTOR KEESEY WAS IN WE WERE TALKING ONE OF THE ONE OF THE DEALS WAS THE THAT MANY YEARS AGO.

A LOT OF THE WE HAVE A LOT OF ALLEYS AND LA VERNE AND THEY WERE UNPAID AND MOST OF THEM ARE PAID. NOW, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THAT BUDGET ON THE PAYMENT BUDGET FOR LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE TO DO SOME TYPE OF PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT ON THOSE? I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROGRAM TO SEE IF WE DO HAVE THOSE KNOW.

TYPICALLY WHAT WE END UP DOING IS IF WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE WHILE A

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THANK YOU. I CAN TELL YOU, AT LEAST AT THIS MOMENT, JUST FROM A LINE ITEM, MR. MAYOR, I DO NOT SEE THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING ON THE FIVE YEARS THAT HAS BEEN PROGRAMED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.

I DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE THEY ARE STREETS, SOME OF THE MORE STREETS.

AND SO IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO KEEP UP.

OK, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. LA VERNE. THANK YOU, MR. AIGO.

MR. RUSSI DAVIS.

YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY ON THIS REQUEST FOR A BUT WE CAN STOP AND SEE IF THERE WAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON JUST TO SEE IF WE COULD JUST CHECK.

AND MR. MUIR, WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY RAISING THEIR HAND, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THEM A PANELIST'S, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, IF THE.

IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S IN THE ROOM AS MR. BOND AND WE KICK OFF OF THAT SUBJECT, CAN WE TAKE OFF THE STUDY SO EVERYBODY THAT WE CAN SEE WOMEN'S FACES, PLEASE? OK, THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. BOIN. A WINNING MAYOR AND COUNCIL, HEY, WHAT A QUICK QUESTION, YOU WENT THROUGH THE SLIDES AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THEY SHOWED A TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR SAFETY SECURITY FENCE.

I'M KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT WHAT ARE WE SPENT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON FOR SAFETY SECURITY FENCE.

HOW ABOUT WHEN YOU WANT, I CAN ANSWER THAT ONE.

YES, SO THIS IS THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AND SO IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT BLOCK WALL THAT THEY HAVE TO ALLOW FOR NOT ONLY ADDITIONAL VEHICLE SECURITY, BUT ALSO SECURITY OF THE STAFF THAT'S THERE.

SO THAT'S IT. THAT THAT AMOUNT IS INTENDED FOR US NOT ONLY TO EXPAND ON THAT WALL, BUT ALSO TO BUILD IT UP HIGHER, BECAUSE AS IT HAS, MANY OF US KNOW IT IS A LOW LEVEL.

US, YOUR QUESTION, MR. BONE.

SORRY, I PUT THEM BACK AS AN ATTENDEE AFTER WE HEAR THE QUESTIONS, THAT'S.

SO IT'S OUT OF YEAR, ARE WE GOING TO BRING HIM BACK? THERE'S NO I CAN BRING HIM BACK, IF YOU LIKE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS HIS ONLY QUESTION, BUT I MEAN, WE COULD BRING HIM BACK IF HE WAS TO COME BACK AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.

MR. BOND, MANY OTHER QUESTIONS NOT ON THAT LIST.

THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE, BUT THAT ONE THAT ONE WAS INTERESTING, WHICH LOCATION? HE SAYS, AS WE KNOW, IT'S A LOW WALL.

I THINK I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING LOT THERE AND THE AREA ON THE YOU LOOK AT THE BACK SIDE, THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT OF THE MAIN HOUSE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE OPEN AREA THERE THAT'S GOING TO BLOCK WALL WITH THE ELECTRIC GATES FOR THE POLICE CARS TO COME IN AND OUT. IS THAT CORRECT, MR. AIGO? THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH. SO THEY'RE GOING TO STAND ON THEM.

OK, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR.. MR. RUSSI, WE'LL MOVE TO YOUR REPORT, CORRECT? YES, I ASSUME THAT WITH COUNSEL'S CONCURRENCE, WE WILL BRING THIS FORWARD FOR FINAL LOOK AT THE SKYPE FOR FINAL ADOPTION.

EVERYBODY IN CONCURRENCE WITH THAT, WE MOVE FORWARD.

YES, THAT'S A YES.

ALL RIGHT. AND NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET.

AS COUNSEL IS AWARE, THIS IS THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR WE HAVE BEEN SPENDING, PREPARING THE BUDGET AND GOING AWAY FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THERE WE GO. OK, AND IT IS DONE IN A VERY TEAM ORIENTED, TEAM ORIENTED APPROACH. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE FIRST SEVERAL STEPS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING SINCE FEBRUARY UNTIL NOW.

BUT THEY'VE ALL BEEN INVOLVING EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

THEIR REQUEST THAT WE AGREE WITH FINANCE AS WELL AS THE FINANCE TEAM, NOT JUST CHRISTIE AND MARC, BUT PAYROLL ACCOUNTS, PEOPLE, EVERYBODY'S INVOLVED.

SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME IS A LOT OF WORK CUTTING HAIR.

SO I WANT TO AT LEAST COMPLIMENT EVERYBODY IN DEPARTMENTS AND THE FUND FOR THEIR WORK IN HELPING US, BECAUSE I THINK YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU GET TO THE PRESENTATION HOW FAR WE'VE

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AND I'M VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS TO THE COUNCIL.

SO JUST TO SHOW YOU THE TIMELINE, HERE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE.

THERE ARE STILL FOUR STEPS LEFT IN THE ACTUAL ADOPTION OF YOUR BUDGET.

THERE WILL BE THIS INPUT PROCESS WITH THE COUNCIL AND IT'S REALLY A HIGHER LEVEL.

I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE DOLLARS AND THE GENERAL DIRECTION THAT I SEE BEING ABLE TO MOVE THE BUDGET FORWARD COMFORTABLY FOR APPROVAL.

I'LL ASK COUNCIL FOR THAT CONCURRENCE AND THEN WE'LL COME FORWARD WITH THE NEXT PUTTING THE BOOKS TOGETHER, WHICH WILL HAPPEN NEXT.

AND THIS THE LATTER PART OF MAY, WE WILL GET THOSE OUT TO COUNCIL.

THEN IN THE FIRST PART OF JUNE, YOU WILL HAVE YOUR PRESENTATIONS FOR EACH OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHERE THEY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU SPECIFICS ABOUT THEIR REQUEST. ALSO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR SPECIFIC REQUESTS ARE.

AND THEN AT YOUR SECOND MEETING IN THE MIDDLE OF JUNE, THAT'S WHEN THE BUDGET WILL BE ON THERE FOR ACTUAL APPROVAL.

SO WE HAVE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE INPUT INTO CONSIDERATION AND THEN FOR FINAL ADOPTION BY COUNCIL. SO BEFORE WE GO INTO NEXT YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF KIND OF WHERE WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE OUT THE CURRENT YEAR.

REVENUES ARE EXPECTED TO BE JUST OVER THIRTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS AND EXPENDITURES ARE GOING TO BE THIRTY SIX, SIX THIRTY SIX, SEVEN, WHICH PUTS OUR DEFICIT ON EVERY STATE AT ABOUT ONE POINT THREE.

NOW, YOU REMEMBER THAT YOU APPROVED A ONE POINT, ONE BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT.

WHEN WE FACTOR IN ALL THE CARRYOVERS, WHICH ARE APPROPRIATIONS THAT WERE IN THE PRIOR YEAR, THAT THAT NEEDED TO BE CARRIED FORWARD, THAT TOOK THE DEFICIT TO ABOUT ONE POINT THREE. BUT EVEN WITH THAT, YOU'LL SEE THE PROJECTED BALANCE FOR THE END OF THE YEAR IS EXPECTED TO BE NINE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS FROM TEN POINT SEVEN.

AND THEN THE FINAL SHOWS, A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY HERE OF HOW YOUR HOW THE GENERAL FUND RESERVE AND THIS IS JUST GENERAL FUND HAS KIND OF EBB AND FLOW.

BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PUT THIS MONEY ASIDE, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR FOR A RAINY DAY HAS REALLY BENEFICIAL AT THIS POINT.

AND I'LL SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF NEWS WITH YOU WHEN WE GET FURTHER IN.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPLENISH SOME OF THIS OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BEYOND THE NUMBERS AND GIVE YOU THAT THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS THAT WE GAVE YOU A BIG YEAR ARE STILL HOLDING AS WE EXPECTED. WE TOLD YOU WE WOULD GIVE YOU UPDATES THROUGHOUT.

THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE NUMBERS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN FEBRUARY AND THEN AGAIN IN JANUARY AND THEN AGAIN IN FEBRUARY.

SO WE STILL SEE THOSE NUMBERS AS STRONG AS WE REQUESTED.

NO, NO DEVIATIONS OF SIGNIFICANT DEVIATIONS UP OR DOWN THE THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SAW AND THE DEFICIT ON THE PRIOR PAGE PRESUME THE USE OF EIGHT HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE SALARY INCREASES THAT WENT INTO EFFECT JANUARY OF LAST YEAR.

SO USING THE MEASURE, ALL THE MONEY.

SO THAT REALLY HELPED TO BRIDGE THAT GAP, TO KEEP US COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE MARKET.

THE THE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE PRESENTED, THE EXPENSES OF THE THIRTY SIX MILLION ALSO INCLUDE ALL OF OUR PROFIT RELATED EXPENSES RELATED TO COVID RESPONSE.

SO WE HAVE NOT SEPARATED THOSE OUT THERE.

THEY'RE ALL ABSORBED IN YOUR BUDGET WITHIN THAT GENERAL FUND NUMBERS.

WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THERE IS, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, BACK TO THE MIDDLE PART OF LAST YEAR, MAYBE SEPTEMBER OR SO THE STATE.

GAVE EACH CITY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE RECEIVED JUST OVER FOUR HUNDRED, JUST OVER FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND.

WE'VE BEEN HOLDING THOSE FUNDS ASIDE.

WE HAVE NOT EARMARKED THEM OR DEDICATED THEM FOR ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.

AND THEY CERTAINLY CAN GO BACK TO REPLENISH PART OF THAT ONE POINT THREE MILLION THAT HAS BEEN USED IN YOUR RESERVES.

AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS WE ARE STILL GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WHICH IS AN EXTREMELY EXTENDED, EXTENSIVE PROCESS FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT SINCE WE HAD DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY, WHICH ALLOWS US TO GO AFTER FEDERAL FUNDING FOR A PORTION OF THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES.

AND WE WILL BE PURSUING ANYWHERE BETWEEN A HALF TO THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN

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AND CHRISTY HAS THE PLEASURE OF WORKING THROUGH THAT THAT MAZE WITH THEM.

SO I THANK HER FOR TAKING THAT OFF.

SO THAT BOTTOM LINE IS WHERE WE HAVE TO USE ABOUT ONE POINT THREE.

WE DO HAVE FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND AND HOPEFULLY ANYWHERE UP TO A HALF TO THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO REPLENISH ALMOST ALL OF THE RESERVES THAT WE HAVE USED TO THIS POINT. BEFORE I JUMP INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, I JUST WANT TO STOP AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL PAZ AS IT RELATES TO THE CURRENT YEAR.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR., RUSSI, STATHAM COUNCILMAN? NO, MR. RUSSI, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS THE FUNDS IN THE COVERED RELATED EXPENSES? BUT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE? THE CASH FUNDS WAS ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND, JUST A LITTLE OVER THAT.

AND THE FEMALE.

AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO REQUEST ROUGHLY FIVE HUNDRED TO THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE NECESSARILY GOING TO APPROVE.

OK. THANK YOU.

THE QUESTIONS WHERE YOU CAN MOVE ON, SIR.

OK, SO THIS TAKES A, AGAIN, A BRIEF SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THE CURRENT ERA IS LOOKING LIKE.

REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE ROUGHLY THIRTY EIGHT EXPENDITURES.

THIRTY NINE.

THE ACTUAL DEFICIT IS ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED GOING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT MEETINGS AND REVIEWING REQUESTS AND EVALUATING WHAT COULD BE SUPPORTED, WE STARTED AT ABOUT ONE POINT.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE DEPARTMENTS TO WORK ON GETTING THOSE NUMBERS DOWN, MAYBE SHIPPING SOME THINGS OFF, PRIORITIZING.

SO WE HAVE THE ACTUAL DEFICIT, ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND OF THAT NUMBER.

FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY IS ONE TIME EXPENDITURES.

SO THEY'RE EITHER CAPITAL REQUESTS OR ITEMS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO IMPROVE OUR TECHNOLOGY ASPECTS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY'RE ONE TIME AND NOT REAFFIRM.

SO YOUR REOCCURRING DEFICIT AT THIS POINT IS JUST OVER ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT IN BEING ABLE TO SAY, CONSIDERING THE ONE TIME WE HAVE ALMOST A HALF AN OVER A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF DEFICIT, BUT A MAJORITY OF THAT IS FOR ONE TIME EXPENSES THAT YOU'LL GET MORE DETAIL FROM THE DEPARTMENTS AS WE GO FORWARD IN THEIR PRESENTATION. SO I'LL GO THROUGH SOME SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF SOME SOME THINGS THAT ARE FOLDED INTO THE BUDGET SO YOU CAN GET A FLAVOR OF WHAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED.

AND WITH THAT, UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS ON THE DEFICIT OR CONCERNED WITH WHAT IS SEEN HERE, I WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. RUSSI AS WE MOVE ON? LOOKS LIKE WE'RE MOVING ON MR. DAVIS COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS, THANK YOU SO SO LAST YEAR, I KNOW IT WAS MAYBE IT'S JUST NOT A VERY FAIR COMPARISON, BUT LAST YEAR WE WERE LOOKING AT A PROJECTED DEFICIT OF ABOUT A MILLION. I'M TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND WITH ALL THAT RECURRING OR WITH SOME OF THAT.

I THINK THAT WAS ALL RECURRING.

RIGHT. SO SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS GOING INTO THIS YEAR ARE OUR PROJECTED A RECURRING DEFICIT IS A TENTH OF WHAT WE WERE WHAT WE ANTICIPATED EXPERIENCING LAST YEAR.

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? YES. AND YOU'LL REMEMBER A LOT OF THAT WAS DUE TO OUR REAL CONSERVATIVE LOOK AT THE REVENUE. SO THAT REOCCURRING DEFICIT WAS REALLY LARGE BECAUSE WE HAD NO WAY TO PREDICT WHAT THAT FUTURE WAS LOOK LIKE. AND THEN THAT PICTURE GOT BETTER AND BETTER AS THE YEAR WENT ON, AS WE REPORT.

RIGHT. SO. SO AND THE REASON I WANTED TO FRAME IT THAT WAY IS THAT IS THAT FROM A PRELIMINARY BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, ONE HUNDRED AND THREE THOUSAND RECURRING DEFICIT, IT APPEARS TO ME TO BE A MANAGEABLE NUMBER, NOT OUT OF CONTROL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS. AND I WILL SAY THAT A NUMBER OF ITEMS. PROPERTY TAX. SALES TAX, MUCH BETTER THAN WE ANTICIPATED AND NOT CORRECT MR. RUSSI. PROBABLY SALES TAX MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

PROPERTY TAX WAS BETTER, BUT WE WEREN'T AS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

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WE DIDN'T SEE THAT HAVING AN EFFECT.

BUT SALES TAX DEFINITELY WAS.

BUT THAT THAT CAME BACK A LOT STRONGER THAN WE HAD EXPECTED.

SO THAT WAS A KEY PIECE ON PAR WITH WHAT A NORMAL YEAR WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE, NOT COUNTING THE GROWTH. MUCH BETTER THAN JUST BEEN COUNCIL MEMBER, LAU, AND I MISSED A LITTLE BIT. MY QUESTION WAS TO CLARIFY THAT POINT.

I THINK THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

IS IT BETTER THAN PROJECTED IN PANDEMIC TIMES OR BETTER THAN PROJECTED HAD IT BEEN A NORMAL YEAR? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT BETTER THAN PROJECTED IN A NORMAL YEAR, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD AND CERTAINLY BETTER THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED GOING INTO A PANDEMIC.

SO IT WAS CLOSER TO WHAT A NORMAL YEAR WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE WITHOUT THE GROWTH.

SO, YOU KNOW, BUT WE WERE ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE WHEN WE DID OUR PROJECTIONS.

SO IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN WHAT WE STARTED THE YEAR OUT PREDICTING.

OK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY WITH YOUR REQUEST IN PREPARATION FOR ONE TIME EXPENDITURES.

DO YOU HAVE LIKE THE SIPI WITH THE FIVE YEAR PLAN WITH WITH DIFFERENT EXPENDITURES COMING OUT, OR ARE THESE JUST UNANTICIPATED EXPENDITURES PRIOR AND BEING ONE TIME FOR THAT WITH A CAP? WE HAVE THE THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.

I KNOW MR. KEESEY WAS DEVELOPING THAT TO THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER AND JUST DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT FOR THESE EXPENSES HERE.

MOST OF THESE ARE WHAT WOULD BE CONSTRUED AS CAPITAL OUTLAY.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED AS PART OF A PROJECT AS MUCH AS A SOMETHING THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY ANTICIPATED TO BE FOLDED INTO THIS OR COULDN'T WAIT FOR FIVE YEARS.

AND SO IT GETS INCORPORATED INTO YOUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET, NOT INTO A FIVE YEAR PLANNING DOCUMENT. LET'S SEE, I'M TRYING TO COME UP WITH AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THEM, I DO NOT HAVE THE SPECIFIC LIST OF THEM.

CAN YOU GUYS RECALL? YES.

SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND MORE CLOSELY, MORE CLOSELY TIED TO THE OPERATIONS.

SO THAT'S WHY DEPARTMENTS REALLY DON'T KIND OF LOOK AT THESE GOING OUT FIVE YEARS AND SAY, I'M GOING TO NEED THIS BECAUSE THIS IS MORE OF AS OPERATIONS ARE INVOLVED, THEN ONE TIME PURCHASES COME UP TO 50 OPERATIONS, WHEREAS THE CIA IS MORE OF THE BIGGER PROJECTS THAT THEY KNOW. WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS AND HANDLE THIS.

SO THAT'S WHY THESE DON'T REALLY FALL UNDER THAT THAT PLAN OF KIND OF LOOKING OUT LONG TERM. THEY'RE DEFINITELY MORE ONE ONE YEAR, MAYBE TWO YEARS OUT.

IF WE WOULD IF WE WOULD BE DOING A TWO YEAR BUDGET, THEN SOME OF THESE WOULD BE EARMARKED A YEAR OR TWO OF DEPARTMENT MAYBE SAYING, I KNOW I'M GOING TO NEED THIS IN A YEAR OR TWO BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S COMING AROUND THE CORNER.

BUT THESE ARE DEFINITELY MORE SHORT TERM, ONE TIME PURCHASES RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THEIR OPERATIONS. IS THAT MORE LIKE SOFTWARE OR THINGS LIKE THAT, SOFTWARE PROGRAMS, THINGS THAT I WOULD NORMALLY SAY? YES, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT MODEL HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, IT WOULD BE LIKE A PURCHASE OF A LICENSE PLATE READER.

SO SEE A PIECE OF IT THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY RELATED TO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, PAZ. MAYBE IT'S THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT IT'S NOT A REOCCURRING EXPENSE.

IT'S GOING TO BE YOUR PURCHASE SAVER, ALPER, MAYBE ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS.

SO IT'S IT'S THOSE TYPE OF ONETIME PURCHASES THAT AREN'T PART OF THE REGULAR OPERATIONAL BUDGET. THANK YOU.

A KEY FOR US IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS THIS ONE TIME EXPENDITURES OF FOUR HUNDRED SIXTY THOUSAND ISN'T ALSO REPRESENTED IN THE CIPA.

THIS IS INDEPENDENT.

THIS IS TOTALLY CORRECT.

YOU WILL GET A LIST OF THAT.

LET'S THE ALL THE DOCUMENTS COME OUT, YOU WILL SEE THEM ALL LISTED OUT INDIVIDUALLY, WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT EXACTLY EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS IS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STATHAM OK, BOARD.

SO JUST SOME NOTABLE HIGHLIGHTS, AND I'VE GOT THIS PROPERTY OF THE REVENUE PERSONNEL AND THEN OTHER OPERATORS, SO ON THE REVENUE SIDE, THERE REALLY WAS NO PROJECTED GROWTH, SIGNIFICANT PROJECTED GROWTH OVER THE WHERE WE EXPECT THE CURRENT YEAR TO END.

AND PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS WHAT WE CALL MARKET SHARE, THAT THIS WHOLE SHIFT IN

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SO THIS IS TAKING MORE OF A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH ON THAT FOR THE TIME BEING.

SO THAT THAT THAT NUMBER IS IS BETTER THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR, PROBABLY MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE RUSSI TO END THE CURRENT YEAR AS FAR AS.

OTHER SIGNIFICANT REVENUES, THE BUILDING PERMIT ACTIVITY, WHERE IT ANTICIPATES THREE PROJECTS OCCURRING THIS YEAR.

SO IT IS HIGHER THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF LARGER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

AND THESE ARE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE TAKEN ON AND ANTICIPATES AMHERST, PART OF POSSIBLY THE FRUIT PROJECT, THE PROJECT ON FRUIT STREET, AND THEN ONE FURTHER DOWN ON THE WAY DOWN BY FIRST STREET.

AS FAR AS OTHER MAJOR REVENUES AND I'M GOING TO CAPTURE RECREATION PROGRAMS AND THE PENTAGON AND JUST A LARGE NET, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE WHICH WE ARE ANTICIPATING, A MUCH SMALLER. PROGRAM OFFERING OVER THE NEXT YEAR, AS WE STILL TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE RELATIVE TO RESTRICTIONS AND CLASSES AND INDOOR VERSUS OUTDOOR, WHICH SEEMS TO BE A LOT MORE POSITIVE THAN WHEN WE PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER, ALL OTHERS, WHICH IS UTILITY TAX, PROPERTY TAX BILL, ARE NEAR THEIR HISTORIC LEVELS.

SO WE WHICH MEANS THAT THOSE THOSE REVENUES ARE HOLDING PRETTY WELL IN LIGHT OF WHAT THE LAST YEAR PANDEMIC THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED.

AS FAR AS PERSONNEL, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET IS THIS ALLOWS FOR THE REORGANIZATION OF ADMINISTRATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, AS IT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH COUNCILMAN AS FAR AS IN ANTICIPATION OF THE RETIREMENT OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS THE RETIREMENT OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT ARE BEING INCORPORATED IN THE BUDGET.

IT ADDS ONE POLICE SERGEANT POSITION.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS GOES BACK PROBABLY JUST ABOUT A YEAR AGO, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. WHEN WE CONTRACTED OUT SERVICES, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS THAT WAS RESULTING FROM THAT.

THE DEPARTMENT LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT THEY WANTED TO EVALUATE HOW BEST TO REPROGRAM THAT TO BE OF EFFECT TO THEIR OPERATION.

AND IT WAS THE ADDITION OF THE POLICE SERGEANT THAT WAS DETERMINED TO BE THE BEST WAY.

AND THEY'RE PUTTING THAT IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.

THERE WILL ALSO BE A SAVINGS ON THE OVERTIME SIDE AS A RESULT OF THIS.

AND SO IT WILL BE IT'LL STILL BE A NET INCREASE, BUT IT WILL BE LESS THAN THE COST OF A FOUR BY. THIS ALSO ANTICIPATES FULL FUNDING OF THE MARKET INCREASES COMING FROM MEASURE B, NONE OF IT HAS ALLOWED FOR UNDER THE TAX MEASURE, THE NEW REVENUE COMING IN FROM THAT AND NONE OF THAT BEING ABSORBED BY THE REST OF THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THIS BUDGET ALSO IN PERSONNEL AS IT RELATES TO POLICE DEPARTMENT OVERTIME, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE USE OF OUR ASSET FORFEITURE FUND FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TO TO JUST SUPPORT SOME OF THAT OVERTIME THAT FUND HAS.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN REPLENISHING THAT FUND BECAUSE AS WE USED TO IN THE PAST, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THERE HAD BEEN ON THAT FUND IS NOW AT A PLACE WHERE IT'S ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND, GIVE OR TAKE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEAN ON IT FOR THE AMOUNT OF OVERTIME AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST BECAUSE WE WILL OTHERWISE DEPLETED A LOT QUICKER.

SO THAT MEANS THE GENERAL FUND IS IS PICKING UP MORE OF THE OPERATIONAL OVERTIME.

IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND, IS THAT RIGHT? SO ABOUT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND OF POLICE DEPARTMENT OVERTIME IS BEING SUPPORTED BY THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET THIS COMING YEAR THAT IT HAPPENED IN THE PAZ.

WE'LL STOP THERE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE OTHER SIDE, SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS HERE.

KRESS COUNCIL MEMBER CARDER, YES, I HAVE TO I THE COMMENT ONCE A QUESTION FOR MR. RUSSI THE LAST ITEM ON THE PERSONNEL INCREASE OF ISD OVERTIME IS THE OVERTIME JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR ADDED WORK OR ARE WE SHORT OFFICERS? WELL, IT'S A NUMBER OF THINGS.

IT COULD BE BECAUSE OFFICERS ARE ON VACATION, THEY COULD HAVE SEX.

SO IT'S TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE MINIMUM STAFFING THAT'S NECESSARY TO PATROL THE CITY.

AND SO THAT IS WHERE THAT COMES IN.

IT COULD BE ASSOCIATED TO LONG TERM INJURIES, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN THOSE THREE

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IF WE HAVE SPECIAL OPERATIONAL NEEDS, WE WILL ALSO HAVE OVER TIME LIKE THIS.

LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD THE DEMONSTRATIONS, WE HAD TO GO ON A 12 ON 12 OFF SHIFT THAT REQUIRED A LOT OF OVERTIME TO SUPPORT THAT SO THAT WE HAD TO TAKE THAT ON WITHIN OUR OPERATING BUDGET. OK, AND THE OTHER ITEM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON YOUR REVENUES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LISTED FOR ANYONE THAT'S READING IT, IT DOESN'T SOUND AS ENTICING AS WHAT THE PROGRAM WAS.

BUT FOR THE RECREATION PROGRAMS, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN LIMITED WITH KOBAN, I REALLY WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THEM.

THEY HAVE BEEN CREATIVE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO ENHANCE ANY PROGRAMS THEY HAD. RATHER, IT CRAFT PROGRAMS GIVING TO KIDS THE SENIORS THAT THEY COULD DO AT HOME AND THEN OBVIOUSLY OUR DRIVE THRU TO CELEBRATE WITH CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

SO I REALLY RESPECT ALL THE HARD WORK THEY'VE COME UP WITH.

AND UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF UBON, YOU KNOW, HER CREATIVITY HAS BEEN AMAZING.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COUNSEL? YES, I JUST I DID THE I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CARDER BROUGHT UP THE GOOD QUESTION AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO I'M GOING TO REPHRASE THAT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE THAT LAST BULLET ISN'T SUGGESTING THAT PAUDIE OVER TIME IS INCREASING.

IT'S SIMPLY THAT OVER TIME AS IT IS, WHETHER IT'S LARGER, SMALLER OR THE SAME, IS GOING TO BE INCREASINGLY SUPPORTED BY THE GENERAL FUND VERSUS THE ASSET FORFEITURE ACCOUNTING CATEGORY. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL JOIN ROBIN IN THE ACCOLADES TO THE RECREATION PROGRAMS. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN AS MANY RECREATION PROGRAMS AS ARE SAFELY PROMOTED.

I KNOW OUR RESIDENTS ARE READY, WILLING AND PREPARED TO ENGAGE.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT THAT DOES HAPPEN IN A SAFE MANNER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. A LITTLE PLUG OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING REGISTRATION NOW FOR PRESCHOOL SWIM LESSONS IS IS GEARING OUT.

SO THEY ARE STARTING WHERE ARE THEY? CAN THEY ARE STARTING PROGRAM.

SO THERE WILL BE MORE TO GO.

WELL, AND ON THAT HALF, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN HERE.

THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS AMAZING WITH THE TIME AND THE INTERNET ONLINE, ALL THE STUFF IN THE GAMES AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE.

IT'S BEEN AMAZING. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STATHAM? WE MOVE FORWARD, MR. RUSSI, THANK YOU.

SO THE OTHER SECTION IS OPERATIONAL AND CAPITAL, AND THE FIRST BULLET HERE DOES CONNECT INTO THE CAPITAL, THE SECRET BUDGET WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EQUIPMENT.

AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THOSE VEHICLES THERE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO ENGINES, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT PUT THEM IN THE CITY, THEY'RE FUNDED DIFFERENTLY.

THE REMAINDER OF THOSE.

SO THOSE 15 VEHICLES ARE BEING FUNDED THROUGH YOUR CAPITAL, THROUGH YOUR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT. SO A SIGNIFICANT OF THIS IS MORE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT THAN WE PURCHASED.

AND WHEN YOU'RE IN A LONG TIME, BUT THEY'RE JUST THEIR LIFE CYCLE IS COME UP.

FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD DEPRECIATION PROGRAM AND HAVE THE MONEY SET ASIDE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE PURCHASING FIVE PATROL VEHICLES, A COMMAND VEHICLE FOR FIRE TRUCKS AND A FACTOR IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE TWO THERE ARE TWO ENGINES THAT ARE BEING SUPPORTED IN THIS BUDGET AS WELL BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND RESTRICTED FUNDS THAT ARE SET UP FOR THIS PURPOSE, A TYPE ONE, WHICH IS ABOUT EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND A TYPE THREE.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO STOP FOR A SECOND TO TYPE THREE, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT AN OPPORTUNITY AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO FIND A COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO PURCHASE THIS.

IT'S ABOUT A THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS PURCHASE. HE HAS IDENTIFIED A DEMO DEMO, BUT IT'S A BRAND NEW ONE.

AND THE THE BEAUTY ABOUT THAT IS IT'S READY ALMOST IMMEDIATELY VERSUS PUTTING IT ON ORDER AND THEN GETTING A YEAR LATER.

SO WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING AND WE'LL BE SEEKING COUNSEL SUPPORT FOR IS DOING AN INTERNAL FINANCING. SO BORROWING FROM OURSELVES RATHER THAN LEANING ON ANYONE TRYING TO MATCH AND PAY IT BACK OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD AND PURCHASE IT SOONER RATHER THAN AND GET IT AND POUR IT INTO SERVICE MORE IMMEDIATELY.

SO WE ARE STILL EXPLORING THAT.

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IT'S NOT YOUR IN IN TOWN STRUCTURE FIRE APPARATUS THAT THEY WOULD BE.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE USE QUITE FREQUENTLY WHEN IT GOES OUT TO TO FIRES AND SUCH KIND OF PRACTICE ON IT WHEN WE HAVE IS OUT AT PALISADES RIGHT NOW, ABOUT FIVE.

WOULD THAT BE GOOD, COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY.

I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION YOU ARE MAYOR AT THE BRUSH TRUCK THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT KIND OF A DISCOUNT? I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GIVING US A DEMO.

I MEAN, THEY RUN NORMALLY ABOUT ONE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

IS THAT CORRECT? LESS THAN THAT.

I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S ABOUT THE PRICE DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS ABOUT A 10 TO 20 PERCENT, IF I RECALL.

BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S ABOUT GETTING IT NOW VERSUS ORDERING IT AND HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR TO HAVE IT BUILT.

BUT IS THE THE GREATER DESIRE AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THE THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR RANGE, WHICH IS THE GREAT, GREAT DISCOUNT FOR US, YOU'RE GETTING YOUR VEHICLE.

IT'S FULLY OUTFITTED RAINBO.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO ASK MR. CROSBY.

YES, BUT ALSO THE TYPE IS A BRUSH, CHECK THE LINE, WE HAVE A PALISADES THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, SO THEN THAT JUST GETS FARMED OUT OR SOLD OR IT'S NOT OPERABLE ANYMORE WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY A FIRE RIGHT NOW.

WELL, IT'S IT'S STILL IN SERVICE.

I MEAN, PROBABLY YOU HAVE TO DEFER TO THE CHIEF ON WHETHER WE WOULD PUT THAT ON A RESERVE STATUS OR WE WOULD LOOK TO SELL IT.

I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BENEFIT WHAT THE INTEREST WOULD BE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF.

AND OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STATHAM.

AND WE CAN CONTINUE, SIR.

OK, SO THEN THESE NEXT COUPLE, THIS THIS TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN YOUR ONGOING BUDGET AND THINGS JUST TO KEEP IN MIND.

SO WE HAD TO ADD THIS LAST YEAR, ABOUT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN TECHNOLOGICAL SUBSCRIPTIONS. AND WHICH WAS A SHOCK TO ME, BUT THIS IS OFFICE THREE, SIX FIVE.

WE HAVE TO DO THE MAINTENANCE ON OUR TASERS FOR MOST OF THESE ARE IN PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THEY HAVE ALL THESE TECHNOLOGIES HAVE GONE TO A SUBSCRIPTION VERSUS YOU JUST PURCHASE IT. AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE READY TO PURCHASE THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS OUT, THEN YOU'RE DOING A LARGER CENTER.

SO WE HAVE AND IT'S IT'S GOT A.

YOU'VE BEEN AWARE OR IT'S BEEN SHARED THE THE DATA BREACHES THAT HAVE OCCURRED NOT JUST IN IN AGENCIES, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING SUBSCRIPTION BASED ARE TO GIVE US BETTER PROTECTIONS AND FIREWALLS RELATED TO SOME OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL. SO IT'S A MODEL THAT A LOT OF THE COMPANIES ARE GOING TO AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO ABSORB THIS PART INTO OUR ONGOING BUDGET.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S HERE IS WE HAVE ABOUT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ANTICIPATED AND COVID RELATED EFFORTS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET.

BUT WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED THE THE MONEY THAT'S COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO SUPPORT THAT.

SO IT'S NOT THE GENERAL FUNDS NOT BEING LEAD ON FOR THIS.

TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THIS IS INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET AT THIS POINT. AND THEN I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE ONE TIME EXPENDITURES AS WELL AS THERE'S NO GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE FIVE YEAR CERP IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

AND THAT WAS EXPECTED TO BE A TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WE JUST INCREASED OUR DEFICIT, RECOGNIZING THAT WE EXPECT FOR THE SALE OF THE AMHERST'S PROPERTY TO OCCUR SOMETIME OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.

I FELT OK WITH POSTPONING AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR AND STILL BEING ABLE TO FUND THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LISTED AT THIS POINT.

ANY QUESTIONS HERE, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STATHAM, NO ANSWER.

THANK YOU. SO JUST A COUPLE OTHER THINGS REAL QUICKLY FOR A FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION.

THE FIRST IS THE IS THE AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT FUNDING? THIS IS THE MONEY COMING FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE HAVE ABOUT SIX POINT FIVE SIX POINT EIGHT DOLLARS MILLION THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNATED FOR THE CITY OF LA VERNE. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE GUIDELINES OF HOW THE MONEY CAN BE USED. SO I DARE TO SAY THAT THERE IS A PLAN OUTLINED.

BUT I WANTED TO PUT BEFORE COUNCIL JUST THIS IS KIND OF STATHAM THE INITIAL WASH ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH AND SOME OF IT'S IN PRIORITY.

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AND SO THERE'S A FORMULA THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AND REIMBURSE OURSELVES FOR ANY REVENUE WE'VE LOST IN ANY CATEGORIES, REIMBURSE OURSELVES FOR ANY EXPENSES THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY RECEIVED FUNDING FOR.

WE'RE GOING TO AS THE THE.

THE. PROGRAM ALLOWS THE THE FUNDING ALLOWS DO SOME TYPE OF LOCAL ECONOMY, RESTART BENEFIT WORK WITH THE CHAMBER. WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT LAST YEAR WITH THE CHAMBER ON SOME POSSIBILITIES, BUT NOTHING REALLY GOT STARTED AT THAT POINT.

LOOK AT SOME POSSIBLE DIRECT BUSINESS ASSISTANCE GRANTS OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF LOAN OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IF WE CAN DO RESIDENTIAL RECOVERY.

WE LIKE TO LOOK AT EXPLORING SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS. AND THEN LASTLY, KIND OF OUR CATCH ALL FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN'T USE IN THESE OTHERS IS TO TAKE ON SOME WATER AND SEWER CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXHAUST ALL OF THE MONEY.

THE KEY IS ALL THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENDING TO FREEZE.

NOW, WHERE DID YOU LOSE ME, WENDY? NOW, YOU'VE BEEN GOOD WITH MY FEEDBACK.

I THINK IT'S MAYBE WENDY.

THE KEY IS WE HAVE TO SPEND ALL THE MONEY BY DECEMBER OF 2012 FOR.

TWENTY THREE YEARS, YEAH, YEAH, SO WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE'VE MADE WHATEVER WE HAVE MADE USE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE BACK.

SO WE OUR GOAL IS TO FIND IN THESE BROADER CATEGORIES HOW WE CAN PUT THAT MONEY TO USE ON. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE WITH SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES IS I I'VE READ THAT IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SET UP A PROGRAM WITH SOME OF THESE THAT THAT CAN FIT SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES. WE CAN'T SPEND IT IN THAT SAME CATEGORY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO EVALUATE, PROBABLY WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA BY THE END OF SUMMER MIDSUMMER, AT THE END OF SUMMER OF HOW THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

AND I'LL CERTAINLY BE SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH COUNSEL ONCE I HAVE A BETTER IDEA.

THE OTHER THING, AND I MENTIONED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, JUST TO KEEP ON THE BACK OF COUNCILWOMAN, WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU AS FAR AS THE ONE 15 TRUSTEE AND AS IT RELATES TO OUR UNFUNDED LIABILITY, HOW MUCH OF THE MONEY FROM THE SALE OF AMHERST'S TO DIRECT INTO THE ONE 15 TRUSTEE, AS WAS PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED BY COUNCIL THROUGH THE FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, AS BEING A PRIORITY, AND THEN REPAYMENT OR REPLENISHMENT I SHOULD HAVE PUT OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE BALANCE OF THAT.

AND THEN THE LAST IS TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE JUNE 1ST, WE HAVE OUR MEETING WITH THE OVERSIGHT BOARD TO GO OVER THE THE ESTIMATES OF WHERE THIS YEAR IS GOING TO END, AS WELL AS OUR PROJECTIONS FOR HOW NEXT YEAR'S MONEY IS EXPECTED TO BE SPENT FROM MEASURE ELVY AND GIVE THEM GIVE THEM A REPORT AT THAT TIME.

WITH THAT, I WILL COME BACK TO THROW IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS OR GET WHATEVER YOU COUNCILMAN, COUNCIL MEMBER, LAU.

SO IF YOU GO BACK AT THE LAST NIGHT, PLEASE.

SO FOR THE AMERICAN RECOVERY ACT, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, ARE THE PARAMETERS ALREADY SET OR IS THAT AN ONGOING ENDEAVOR TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR? OR IS IT AND WHEN I SAY IF THE LANGUAGE OR THE PARAMETERS ARE ALREADY SET, IS IT A IS IT AN ISSUE OF TRYING TO WADE THROUGH THE LANGUAGE? BECAUSE I KNOW THOSE CAN BE PRETTY LENGTHY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.

WE'VE SEEN THE PRELIMINARY RULEMAKING, BUT THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD.

BUT FOR WHATEVER GUIDELINES AND IT IS 80 PAGES.

SO AND EVEN TRYING TO READ THROUGH, PROBABLY THE EASIEST ONE I SAW WAS A CALCULATION ON HOW TO REIMBURSE YOURSELF A ROBIN BECAUSE IT WAS YOU COULD ACTUALLY FOLLOW THAT.

BUT EVERYTHING ELSE I WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT IT GOING, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THIS MEANS AT THIS POINT. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY, ESPECIALLY WEBINARS AND THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES IS ALSO EVALUATING IT TO GIVE US GUIDANCE. IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO EVERYBODY, TIME TO KIND OF SIFT THROUGH AND SAY WHAT'S GOING TO BE ACCEPTABLE AND WHAT IS.

OK, THANK YOU. THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING THE FUNDS DIRECTLY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OUR POPULATION IS UNDER 50 THOUSAND.

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AND SO WE ARE WAITING ON GUIDELINES FROM THE STATE AS WELL TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THE OTHER THING AND WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY ABOUT THAT WE'RE GOING THAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO GET THAT AMOUNT COULD CHANGE.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE SET AMOUNT OF ROBIN BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT IS COMING FROM THE STATE.

SO WE GET THIS AMOUNT AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THAT BASED ON OUR POPULATION, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES, THERE WILL BE STATE GUIDELINES THAT WILL HAVE TO BE FURTHER INTERPRETED AND OR WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY.

CORRECT. OK.

THANK YOU. THE QUESTION OF MR., RUSSI OR STATHAM? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHRISTIE TO EXPAND ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, SO THE FEDERAL BECAUSE WE'RE UNDER FIFTY THOUSAND IN POPULATION, WE WILL NOT GET DIRECTLY FEDERAL FUNDING REIMBURSEMENT. IT'LL GO TO THE STATE IN THE STATE WOULD DETERMINE WHAT THE POPULATION, HOW MUCH WE GET. THEY'RE NOT WELL, THEY'RE NOT DETERMINING IT, THEY'RE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE FUNDS BASED ON OUR POPULATION.

SO WE'RE STILL WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE CALCULATION IS GOING TO BE, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, AND LIMITED EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE WE WE JUST GOT THIS INFORMATION IS THE STATE IS GOING TO GET A SET AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THAT AMOUNT HAS TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE AGENCIES THAT ARE UNDER FIFTY THOUSAND POPULATION. SO WHAT I'M SEEING, THE CALCULATIONS ARE CHANGING A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE STATE COMES OUT WITH THEIR GUIDANCE.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINE. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STATHAM, MR., RUSSI.

NO, I WANT TO THANK STAFF, ESPECIALLY MR. ALBARADO AND ALSO CHRISTY MR. RUSSI, THIS IS A LOT OF WORK.

A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF NUMBERS.

WE DO APPRECIATE IT AND ALL OF US DO IT.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO RUN A TIGHT, TIGHT SHIP.

BEING THAT SAID, MR. RUSSI, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I DO NOT I JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL, I KNOW THAT YOU HAD A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER.

SO AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD LOOK FOR, AGAIN, AS A REMINDER IS NOT NOT AN ACTION, BUT JUST DIRECTION. THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS BUDGET HERE OR I WAS GOING TO MAKE A PROPOSAL, SHOULD I DO THAT NOW? WHICH EVERYBODY, I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO DO IT NOW, THEN, AS EVERYBODY HEARD ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER A PLAN FOR TO START REBUILDING PROCESS FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH, IN ESSENCE.

IT INVOLVES ONE OPENING UP STATION THREE AS AN ENGINE COMPANY, WHICH WOULD BE CAPTAIN, ENGINEER, FIREFIGHTER, PARAMEDIC, STATION THREE WOULD STAY THE SAME, CAPTAIN, FIREFIGHTER, PARAMEDIC.

SO AND THEN STATION ONE WOULD BE THE LADDER TRUCK, WHICH WOULD BE A FOUR PERSON CREW, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE ONE ENGINE UP TO THREE.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE OUR WE ALREADY HAVE THE AMBULANCE CREW.

THIS PARTICULAR COST WOULD BE ONE POINT TWO TO ONE POINT FIVE DOLLARS MILLION.

EVERYBODY'S ASKING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THAT? THERE'S BEEN MANY ISSUES BEFORE WE FUNDED IT THROUGH OR THROUGH.

I USED OUR RESERVE FUNDS.

ALSO, THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDS ARE BECOMING AVAILABLE AND SOME OF THEM ARE EARMARKED. THIS IS A ONE TIME FOR THIS POINT TWENTY TWO, I THINK WE NEED TO GET OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT BACK ON ITS FEET, BRING THE PRIDE BACK TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT ALSO GIVES US A RING OF COVERAGE, NOT JUST FIREFIGHTING, BUT REALLY FOR THE FOR THE CALLS AND THE TIMES THAT IT TAKES TO GET TO A RESIDENT.

AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE THREE STATIONS, BUT ALSO THE BIGGEST THING, WE'VE HAD NOTHING BUT RETENTION ISSUES. I KNOW THAT THE EMPLOYEE GROUPS HAVE HAD PROBLEMS TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE ON AND REALLY GIVEN LET THEM KNOW THAT WE DO CARE ABOUT OUR EMPLOYEE GROUPS AS WE DO OUR OTHER EMPLOYEE GROUPS. WE FUND THEM.

WE TRY TO KEEP EVERYONE ON MEDIAN SALARY.

WE TRY TO KEEP OUR BENEFITS GOOD.

OUR RETIREMENT'S GOOD.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOW SOME CARING TO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IN ESSENCE, TO PUT THEM BACK AND RIGHT THE SHIP, PUT THEM BACK ON.

THERE'S MONEY TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THE IF WE USE RESERVE FUNDS AND ALSO OUR OTHER FUNDS HAVE BECOME AVAILABLE, WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE DOWN THE ROAD, OBVIOUSLY.

AND I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WELL, WAIT TILL THE FIRE CHIEF GETS THERE.

THIS WHO WILL GIVE THE FIRE CHIEF ALREADY SET IN PLACE TWO ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL IN THE BUDGET THAT HE CAN START WORKING ON.

AND I'M ACTUALLY FOLLOWING ALMOST TO THE LETTER, THE SENIOR REPORT THAT WE'VE ALL HAD, WE

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IT'S A MODIFICATION OF THE STAFFING OF THIRTEEN, WHICH HAD TO DO WITH AMBULANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I FEEL THAT WE NEED ENGINEERS AND FIREFIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS, ENGINEERS AND FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS, WHICH WE MOST OF OUR PEOPLE IN THE CITY ARE PARAMEDICS STUFF. I THINK ONE ENGINEER.

SO THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE SUPPORT, I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO PUSH THIS FORWARD TO GET MR., RUSSI TO GO AHEAD AND START THIS PROCESS.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING TO DO.

I THINK THAT ONCE WE REBUILD THIS, I KNOW WE HAVE NOT HAD OUR FIRE STEADY FROM THE L.A.

COUNTY. THAT'S REALLY NOT A CONCERN RIGHT NOW.

IF THAT COMES DOWN THE ROAD TWO OR THREE YEARS, THAT'S UP TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WE'VE STATED TO VOTE ON, WHETHER WE KEEP PRIVATE OR NOT, WHERE WE GO COUNTY.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE GOT A GREAT FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GREAT EMPLOYEES.

I THINK THIS IS THE TIME FOR US TO BASICALLY FUND THIS MECHANISM TO GET MORE PERSONNEL ON IT. AND THIS PLAN JUST DIDN'T COME FROM ME.

WE WERE ALL INVITED TO BY THE ASSOCIATION TO MEET WITH THEM REGARDING THE SITUATION, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND AFTER THAT MEETING DISCUSSION WAS ASKED, WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS RIGHT? WHAT'S GOING TO RIGHT THIS SHIP? AND IN THAT TURN, I TALKED TO ROBERT RUSSELL, KEESEY RUSSELL, DANNY MONTOYA AND KEVIN GREEN, ALSO CHEAP PREVIOUS CHEAP SAGARA AND ALSO THE ASSOCIATION.

AND THIS HAS BEEN THEY SAID THIS WOULD WORK, THIS WILL WORK.

SIGURÐUR SAID IT WOULD WORK.

AND SO THE PLAN IS TO AS I STATED, I KNOW WE HAVE TO DIP INTO OUR RESERVES OR WE USE ONE TIME FUNDS, BUT WE DO HAVE TO FIND A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE.

I AM NOT DISCOUNTING THAT AT ALL.

WE HAVE TO FUND THIS PART MORE THAN A ONE HUNDRED PLUS YEARS OF A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAS EXPERIENCED A LOT OF NEGATIVE ISSUES.

AND I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

LET'S BE HONEST NOW.

THERE WAS A SETTLEMENT, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND RIGHT THE SHIP.

SO THAT'S MY PLAN.

AND I'D LIKE SUPPORT FROM COUNCILMAN.

QUESTION. WOULD COUNSEL LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT OR TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? EVERYONE. WELL, I GUESS.

I'M I'M I'M CONCERNED THAT THAT YOUR RELIANCE ON ONE TIME FUNDS OR RESERVE FUNDS IS RECKLESS. YOU'D SAID AT THE OTHER DAY ON YOUR MINUTE WITH THE MAYOR THAT THE NUMBER ONE ITEM IS FUNDING.

AND I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH SUSTAINABILITY EXERCISES.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH REFINANCING EXERCISES TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR OBLIGATIONS CAN BE MET WITH REVENUE. AND I FEEL YOU'RE BEING RECKLESS BY GOING OUT AND SAYING HERE I'M SPENDING MONEY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR IT.

SO I WAS HOPING THAT YOUR PLAN WAS GOING TO BE FOCUSED SOLELY AROUND FUNDING AND FINDING OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE OR GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO FUND WHATEVER THAT THE FIRE CHIEF WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE DO.

SO I'M CONCERNED THAT YOUR YOUR PROPOSAL IS RECKLESS AND LACKS THE MONEY WHERE YOU YOU HOPED THE PLAN WOULD BE.

WELL, IT'S RECKLESS, IS KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AND OUR EMPLOYEES, THEN I GUESS I'M RECKLESS. WE'VE DIPPED INTO OUR FUNDS BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME.

THIS IS AN EMPLOYEE GROUP THAT'S BEEN BASICALLY CHALLENGED OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

AND BELIEVE ME, BOTH SIDES NOT PERFECT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, JUST LIKE OUR OTHER EMPLOYEE GROUPS AND OUR GENERAL FUND, WE'RE PUTTING IN DOLLARS FOR THAT.

YES, WE HAVE TO APPROACH IT WITH A WITH A ONE TIME TO OUR TO USE OUR RESERVES OR WE USE MONEYS THAT WE JUST BECAME AVAILABLE, NOT REPLACE THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE SAFETY OF OUR FIRE PERSONNEL.

THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, I'M TIRED OF IT.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG.

WE JUST KEEP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

WE'VE GOT A FIRE STATION THAT'S BEEN OUT OF COMMISSION FOR OVER OVER A YEAR.

AND THAT THING NEEDS TO BE OPENED BACK UP AND YES, IT WAS AN AMBULANCE STATION.

IT IS A FIRE STATION.

THAT'S WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN ORDER TO GIVE OUR RING OF COVERAGE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

WE WILL ALSO FOR AUTOMATIC AID TO OUR OUTSOURCE IN L.A.

COUNTY, WILL BE ABLE TO HELP THEM, TOO.

AND THE LAST SURVEY WAS 10 TO ONE RATIO.

L.A. COUNTY GAVE US SUPPORT 10 TIMES.

WE GAVE THEM ONE AND NOW BRINGS THE PRIDE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY, BRINGS THE PRIDE BACK TO OUR OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HIRE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE RECIPROCAL ROLES THAT CAN MOVE FROM OTHER FIRE DEPARTMENTS, KNOW THAT WE'RE REBUILDING.

AND, YES, WE HAVE TO GET A FIRE CHIEF.

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MORE RECKLESS.

NO SAFETY.

YES. I DON'T PUT MONEY OVER.

I NEVER HAVE, AND I'M VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT, I'M ONE OF THE ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT STARTED A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT WE DID NOW WHEN IT CAME TO EMPLOYEE GROUPS WITH THE HELPERS AND ALSO SELLING OF PROPERTIES, BECAUSE THE FACT OF ASSETS AND HOW MUCH WE SPEND TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS AND OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS AN ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS JOB KEEPING US STRAIGHT AND GOING THROUGH THE NUANCES OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN COSTS AND ON EMPLOYEE GROUPS. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING OUR EMPLOYEE GROUP IS KEEPING THEM, FIRST OF ALL, WITH A GOOD WAGE.

WITH GOOD BENEFITS, GREAT RETIREMENT, AND AN ABSOLUTELY GOOD WORKING ENVIRONMENT SO THAT WE KEEP AND RETAIN OUR EMPLOYEES RECKLESS, NO SAFETY.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER A.M., WHY DON'T WE DO PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, SO LET'S HEAR WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS/ORAL COMMUNICATIONS]

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND THEN ONCE WE GO THROUGH THE ZOOME ATTENDEES, THEN WE WILL MOVE TO WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO CALL IN, SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE SECOND.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE FIRST PERSON I BRING IN IS JACKSON CHILLINESS MR. SELENA. YOU'RE ON MUIR.

ME, A HUNDRED PERCENT MAY HAVE BEEN A PROPOSAL WE NEED WE NEED TO KEEP OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE DO NOT WANT GOLD COUNTY.

WE DEFINITELY NEED FIRESTATION FREE BACK OPEN.

PLEASE SUPPORT HIS PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SALAAMS. AND THE NEXT PERSON I BRING IN IS LILY BRENNER.

GOOD EVENING, MISS BRAINARD. I.

HI, SO THANK YOU FOR WALKING ON THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CHANGE THAT.

OK, SO I THINK I'D LIKE LIFETIME RESIDENT.

I'M GOING TO RETIRE LA VERNE.

SO I PRESENT A LOT OF RESIDENT WHO IS NOT ABLE TO GO ON ZONK.

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO. AND SO THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT A FIRE DEPARTMENT IS THE RPN LIKE A MORE THAN ONE YEAR FROM LIKE THE LAST TWO PRESIDENTS CHRISTMAS.

IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY ICON, LIKE WE LOVE OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S JUST LIKE A LA VERNE HISTORY IS A CULTURE THING.

BUT FOR ME, FIRST THING, STILL A SAFETY BECAUSE I JUST SIMPLY DON'T HAVE L.A.

COUNTY. WE NEED TO PAY ANYWAY, SINCE OUR CITY WILL HAVE MORE THAN COME IN, BECAUSE THE HOUSING BECAUSE THE YOU GUYS WILL FIND OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE FINANCE.

OK, BUT AS A RESIDENT, I JUST SIMPLY DON'T TRUST THE COUNTY BECAUSE CALIFORNIA NOW IS MESSED UP. THEY HAVE SO MANY ISSUES.

THEY NEED FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY WILL GO TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THEY PROBABLY SHOULD COME TO LA VERNE.

BUT SOME SOMETHING ELSE MORE SERIOUS HAPPENED, IN OTHER WORDS, WITH LOS ANGELES, LIKE ONE OF HER VIOLENT CRIME.

RIGHT. POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT ALL GO TOGETHER.

THEY WILL FORGET US.

LA VERNE IS A VERY PEACEFUL, SAFE COUNTY THING.

YOU GUYS IS FINE, BUT IT'S NOT FINE.

SOMETHING HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

THREE GIRL MISSING FROM GLENDORA FICUS OWLES, THOUSANDS.

SHALL WE TALK ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA? THEY STILL SAY LA VERNE NO LONGER SAFE.

CITY IS VERY MUCH CONCERN.

SO FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS TO REALLY SPEND PAZ BY I MEAN NOT NOT JUST IN ALL MY DISTRICT POLICEMEN DEPARTMENT, BUT ALWAYS TOGETHER.

RIGHT. SO WHAT I CONCERN IS MOST IS SAFETY THINGS.

WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

OUR CITY IS A VERY UNIQUE, VERY UNIQUE.

SO THIS THAT'S NOT OUR CULTURE.

SO YOU NEVER KNOW FIRE DEPARTMENT, NOT JUST THE ICON IN CHRISTMAS FOR LIKE A SEVENTY YEARS, MORE THAN 70 YEARS.

IT'S ABOUT THE SAME PEOPLE, ALL LA VERNE RESIDENTS.

WE ARE WE ARE VERY CHARMING, SMALL CITY.

BUT KEEP IN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS OUR GOAL, BECAUSE I TALKED TO SO MANY OF THEM.

WE TALK ABOUT WHY WE COULDN'T KEEP OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO WITH SO THE NEWS IS GOING TO OPEN SEASON THREE.

SO EVERYBODY EXCITING WITH THINGS THAT ALREADY MAKE IT.

ACTUALLY, WE'RE STILL STUCK HERE FOR THE BUCKET.

RIGHT? SO PLEASE LISTEN TO OUR VOICE.

I WAS PRETTY MUCH A SIMILAR RESIDENT LIKE ME.

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OK, SO PLEASE KEEP THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

OUR OWN LA VERNE IS VERY COOL.

OK, IS THAT OUR IS THE IS A VERY VALUABLE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR, JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WE DO HAVE OUR MEETING AT SIX THIRTY, SO YOU MAY WANT TO REGULATE TIME A LITTLE BIT.

SO YOU HAVE COUNCILMAN HAS TIME TO DISCUSS.

OK, WELL, WE'LL PROBABLY KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES AND IF WE COULD, PLEASE.

HELLO, MISS GABALDON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY THOUGHT ABOUT THESE BIGGER PICTURE THINGS, I'M HEARING THE WORD SUSTAINABLE SOURCE, BUT I ALSO WATCH THAT WE'RE AT ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS DEFICIT PER YEAR SUSTAINABLE AND DEFICITS DO NOT BALANCE OUT.

I'M ALSO HEARING ABOUT THE USE OF THE SELLING OF THE AMHERST PROJECT AS THIS GREAT BAND AID TO THE CITY BUDGET.

AND NOT ONCE, NOT ONCE DO ANY OF YOU BRING UP THE IMPACTS TO THE CITY OR TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SAFETY IMPACTS AND THE DEGRADATION OF OUR LIFE ON THE STREET.

YOU'RE USING THIS, AGAIN, FREE MONEY OVER SAFETY.

WHAT ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THIS? THIS IS YOU BROUGHT UP THE THREE SITES, BRANDYWINE, AMHERST, AND THEN THE SITE DOWN THERE ON WHITE. WHAT ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE? IS THIS THE NEW M.O.? WHEN IT COMES TO NEEDING MONEY, YOU'RE GOING TO START SELLING OUT MORE, SELLING OUT MORE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND LASTLY, THE ONE THING I HAVEN'T HEARD YET.

LASTLY, THE ONE THING OTHER THAN THE OTHER ITEM I DID HEAR WAS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE EMPLOYEE GROUPS.

AND I GET IT STATHAM IS IMPORTANT.

NOT ONCE DURING THIS ENTIRE 40 HOUR OR SO NOW, NOT ONCE DID YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS. OUR TAXES PAY FOR ALL OF THIS.

IT'S OUR MONEY.

OUR TAXES ARE GOING UP THIS YEAR AGAIN.

ARE OUR FEES FOR THE WASTE ARE GOING TO GO UP.

ELVIE MEASURE ELVIE WAS SOLD TO PAY FOR FIRE AND PDE BECAUSE I WENT AND DUG OUT ALL THE OLD FLIERS.

WHY IS IT WHY IS IT WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS? I THOUGHT MY JOB WAS GOING FOR ALL THE PUBLIC SERVICES AND INSTEAD I'M SEEING IT BEING USED AS A SLUSH FUND FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PROJECTS.

IT'S OUR MONEY.

IT'S OUR MONEY, THE RESIDENTS.

WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORD RESIDENT USE MORE AND ALL THIS.

THANK YOU. AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS DON'T INCREASE ANY TAXES.

THANK YOU. MUST BE ABLE TO GO. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

J.R.. JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER HANDS.

HERE WE GO, WE'VE GOT ONE MORE SOBERING PAZ BILLION TO.

GOOD EVENING, MISS BARRIE. THERE YOU GO.

OK, SORRY, IT'S GOT LIKE DISAPPEARED FOR A MINUTE, LIKE WE'RE THE WINDOW GO.

OK, ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'VE ATTENDED A LOT OF COUNCIL MEETINGS OVER THE PAST FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.

A BUNCH OF US HAVE.

AND WE REALLY MISS BEING IN THERE.

WE WOULD BE IN THERE TONIGHT FOR SURE.

THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF SAFETY CONCERNS.

WE SAW NO COUNCIL ACTION.

I WAS ACTUALLY APPALLED TO KIND OF SEE THE CRICKETS AFTER THE MAYOR MADE THE PROPOSAL.

IT JUST SHOCKS ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WENT AND MET WITH THE FIRE STATION AND AGREED THERE'S A NEED FOR SAFETY.

AND THE MASINA REPORT INDICATED THAT SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT HERE THIS AFTERNOON REVIEWING AN URGENT ALL COUNSEL JOINT PLAN TO SAVE THE LA VERNE FIRE DEPARTMENT VERSUS JUST THE MAYOR COMING UP WITH A PLAN AND HAVING EVERYBODY SIT THERE WITH THEIR MOUTHS HANGING OPEN LIKE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST I'M I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED.

I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED.

CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS SECOND TO SAFETY.

THAT'S HOW FAMILY BUDGETS WORK.

WE DEAL WITH WHAT'S IMPORTANT FIRST.

AND ACTUAL CITY FUNCTION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SO OVERTIME IS COSTING WAY MORE THAN SALARIES.

SO I THINK BEING IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE VERY FEW FIREFIGHTERS AND EVERYBODY IS DOING OVERTIME AND EXHAUSTED, WE'RE NOT AS SAFE.

SO WHAT'S RECKLESS, REALLY? WHAT'S RECKLESS? YOU ALL GOT AN E-MAIL FOR ME? I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE PLAN.

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IT CAN'T STAY AS IT IS.

IT'S BROKEN. IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

SO SAFETY COMES FIRST.

IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT, YOU GOT TO FIX IT.

AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE ALL OF YOU COME TOGETHER.

AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO SAY, THANK YOU, MS. VERY. JERRY.

NOT SEEING ANY OTHER HANDS UP, I'LL GO TO PHONE CALLS, JUST GIVE ME ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.

YOU, MR. MAYOR, I HAVE COFFEE NEWSOM ON THE LINE.

GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING, MISS NEWSOM.

HELLO, MUIR HEPBURN AND CITY COUNCIL.

I'M CALLING IN TONIGHT TO ASK THE COUNCIL FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS, FIRST AND FOREMOST IN THE DECISION TO FUND WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO MAKE OUR LA VERNE DEPARTMENT FULL. AGAIN, IT'S TIME TO MAKE THE REBUILDING OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT A TOP PRIORITY.

WE HAVE A SAFE CITY.

TO HAVE A SAFE CITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS NEEDS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES LEAKPROOF.

HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO PROTECT THAT EQUIPMENT, MUST BE UP TO THE STANDARD AND UPDATED IF NEEDED. FROM WHAT I HAVE OBSERVED OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS IS A DECLINE IN THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF OUR CITY MANAGER AND COUNSEL IN MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR RESIDENTS. IT SEEMS THAT EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO KEEP THE CITY SERVICES RATHER THAN TO GO WITH THE COUNTY SERVICES.

COUNCILWOMAN CARDER WAS INVOLVED IN PUTTING OUT A PETITION FOR THE PEOPLE OF LA VERNE TO SIGN IF THEY WANTED TO KEEP OUR LA VERNE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OF COURSE, REFUSE MANY SIGNATURES. OF COURSE WE ALL WANT THIS.

HOWEVER, THIS PETITION DID NOT EXPLAIN WHAT THE COST TO KEEP OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE. IT LED THE RESIDENTS TO THINK THAT IT WAS A VERY SIMPLE CHOICE, CITY OR COUNTY.

BUT IT INVOLVES MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

AND WE'LL MEET SPENDING.

IT WILL NEED OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOTE YES ON THAT FUNDING.

WE IN THE CITY WERE LET DOWN OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS DUE TO POOR DECISIONS.

THESE DECISIONS HAVE LED TO THE DECLINE OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS, TRUST IN OUR CITY MANAGER AS WELL AS OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DIVISION AND OUR RESIDENTS.

IF THE BETTER DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE FOUR YEARS AGO, OUR CITY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SUED.

NOW IT'S TIME TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE AND MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.

THESE DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE WITHOUT EMOTIONAL RESCUE, BUT WITH THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE INVOLVED. I'M ASKING EACH AND EVERY COUNCIL PERSON TO PUT MY LIFE, THE LIVES OF EACH OF OUR RESIDENTS AND EACH OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS IN FRONT OF ALL OF THIS VOTE FOR FUNDING AS A CHOICE SHE WOULD MAKE AS IF YOUR FAMILY'S VERY LIFE DEPENDED ON IT.

YOU WOULDN'T BUY A CAR WITHOUT SEATBELTS OR A HOUSE WITHOUT A SMOKE ALARM.

THE PRICE WOULD NOT MAKE YOUR DECISION WHEN PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY.

WE NEED THE ASSURANCE THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, AS ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS, WILL MAKE THE SAME DECISIONS FOR US.

WE EXPECT YOU TO FIND THE MONEY AVAILABLE TO PROTECT YOUR FAMILY AND THE RESIDENTS, JUST AS YOU LIKE YOUR IMMEDIATE FAMILY.

OUR LIVES ARE IN YOUR VOTE FOR FINDING ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS, HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, ETC.

IT WON'T MATTER IF WE CANNOT PLEASE PUT POLITICS AND MONEY OVER SAFETY.

OUR LIVES ARE DEPENDING ON YOUR VOTE.

AND I HAVE ONE QUESTION I WANT TO ASK.

IS THE FIRE CHIEF CIGARET IF HE SUPPORTS MAYOR HEPBURN PLAN.

THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR..

IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, YES, MR. SEGRA DID SUPPORT.

CIGARROA SUPPORTED REINSTATING THE TO FIRE THE PARAMEDICS IN THE AMBULANCE THAT WAS AS MUCH AS CIGARET SUPPORTED, NOTHING FURTHER THAN THAT.

HE SUPPORTED MY EX AND I JUST THOUGHT YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM.

AND WE DECIDED TO DIFFER WITH THAT STATEMENT.

WHEN AND WHEN WAS THAT CONVERSATION? HE DID NOT AND DID NOT SUPPORT THE OVERTIME WITH STATION THREE WITH ALL THE TIME.

WE DID SUPPORT THE FACT OF HIRING MORE INDIVIDUALS AND MORE FIREFIGHTERS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT HE TOLD ME.

HE TOLD ME HE SUPPORTED.

YOU'RE INTERESTED IN REESTABLISHING THE TWO FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS IN THE AUDIENCE.

WHAT? HE TOLD ME SO.

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GOOD EVENING, MS.. WHEN? MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN, MY NAME IS JOE AND I, AND MY DAD WAS AN ENGINEER, I KNOW I CAN TO INSPIRE THAT. AND MY BROTHER WAS CAPTAIN GABRIEL FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO I DO KNOW A BIT ABOUT FIRE SERVICE AND TO NEW LA VERNE.

I HAD MY HEAD ON THE FLOOR AND I DID RESPOND.

SO I DIALED NINE ONE ONE AND LA VERNE FIRE RESPONDED QUICKLY AFTER INSTRUCTING RIGHT AS I WAS TOLD THAT HE HAD PASSED.

BUT THEY ARE ALSO CALLING POLICE.

THEY WERE AVAILABLE, BUT FIREFIGHTERS STAYED WITH ME UNTIL THE POLICE COULD ARRIVE.

THEY WERE VERY PROFESSIONAL AT THE TIME.

I WAS I CAN CERTAINLY YOU CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON LIFE LIKE WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT REPORTS THAT A FIRM DATE FOR THE INFORMATION MUST NOT BE IGNORED AND CANNOT LIVE WITH THAT NOW. SO WE MUST KEEP OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THEN THERE WILL JUST BE A SLIGHT DELAY.

NOW WE'VE GOT TO MOVE OFF THE ONES THAT WE HAD IN THE QUEUE AND START CALLING PEOPLE.

MR. MARRIED HAVE DENISE FISHER ON THE LINE.

OH, MISS FISHER, GOOD EVENING.

HI, GOOD EVENING TO ALL OF YOU AND JUST LISTENING, AND I'M REALLY I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO PUT SOMEBODY BACK UP AT STATION THREE.

I KNOW IT WAS FOR MEDICAL PURPOSES.

AND AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, 90 PLUS PERCENT OF ALL OF OUR CALLS AND LA VERNE ARE FROM MEDICAL. I DON'T THINK IT GETS PHYSICALLY.

APPROPRIATE, I GUESS, TO PUT A WHOLE NOTHER FIRE STATION UP THERE WHEN WE WERE STATIONED, SHOULD A FIRE OCCUR, IS NORTH ENOUGH THAT THEY COULD RESPOND QUICKLY? ALSO, I KNOW WHEN THERE IS A FIRE, EVERYBODY ROLLS, WHETHER IT'S COUNTY OR GLENDORA OR CLERMONT FIRE, EVERYBODY ROLLS THROUGH A FIRE.

AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE A WE HAVE ALL THE APPROPRIATE TYPES OF FIRE TRUCKS. WE HAVE A LARGE THE I JUST FOUND THE BUDGET.

THERE'S TWO MORE TRUCKS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE PURCHASING.

BUT I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT MOST OF THE CALLS WE GET HERE ARE OUR MEDICAL. AND WHEN WE DO HAVE A FIRE COUNTY RULES AND THAT THEY COME TO US, THEY COME FOR OUR AID BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF L.A.

COUNTY AND THAT IS PART OF WHAT THEY DO.

JUST AS IF THE PD PAZ HAS A SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE IN TROUBLE, THE L.A.

COUNTY SHERIFF'S PATROL, TO ASSIST THEM.

SO I DON'T THINK OPENING UP THE STATION TO ADD ANOTHER ONE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS TO OUR BUDGET IS EVEN FEASIBLE.

WE ARE ALREADY WORKING AT A DEFICIT, THE FIRE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT IT.

BUT I HAD THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE HEARD OUT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN WYOMING.

I HAVE NOT ONCE HEARD OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT COMPLAINING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT. THEY DO THE WORK THEY ALL HAVE.

THEY ALL WALK AROUND AND THEY'RE FRIENDLY.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S ALL I'VE HEARD THIS MORNING.

AND I'M JUST OVER IT.

IF THEY DON'T LIKE WORKING IN OUR CITY, THEY NEED TO GO FIND ANOTHER JOB, GO WORK FOR THE COUNTY SOMEWHERE, GO WORK FOR ANOTHER CITY CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

BUT IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT HERE, THEN GO FIND SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY LIKE.

WE NEED TO HAVE FIREMEN HERE IN OUR TOWN THAT LOVE OUR TOWN JUST AS MUCH AS WE DO AND DON'T CREATE PROBLEMS ALL THE TIME.

SO I, FOR ONE, DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR PROPOSAL TO OPEN UP FIRE STATION THREE FULLY.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MISS BISHOP.

J.R.. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE HAVE ANDY GLAZE ON THE LINE, MR. GLAZE. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ANDY GLAZE AND I'M THE LA VERNE FIREFIGHTER ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT.

I'M CALLING TONIGHT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE LA VERNE FIREFIGHTERS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT 10 HEPBURN PROPOSAL.

WE HAVE MET AND SPOKEN WITH THE FIRE CHIEF BATTALION CHIEFS AND WE ALL AGREE THAT THIS IS THE BEST PLAN. DESPITE WHAT MUIR DAVIS JUST STATED.

SHE DID SUPPORT MUIR HEPBURN PROPOSAL.

AND IN FACT, HE MET WITH HEPBURN AND HIS THREE, BAZHAEV, GREENWAY, MONTOYA AND RUSSELL, AND THEY ALL AGREED ON THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS IN A GROUP MEETING.

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF EVIDENCE AND PLENTY OF SUPPORT.

AND YOU CAN TALK TO ANY OF THE PIECES ABOUT THAT IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT.

THE LA VERNE FIREFIGHTERS MET WITH ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL IN THE PAST MONTHS.

AND ALL OF YOU AGREED THAT WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING TO FIX THE DEPARTMENT.

YOU ALL AGREED THAT THE STATUS QUO IS UNACCEPTABLE AND THAT YOU NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING.

THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE CORRECT THING AND REOPEN FIRE STATION THREE FOR THE PARAMEDIC ENGINE AND START THE FIRE TRUCK.

WE PUT SAFETY BEFORE POLITICS.

THANK YOU TO TIM HEPBURN FOR YOUR PROPOSAL TO SAVE THE LA VERNE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

RECKLESS, NO SAFETY.

YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR.. MR. MUIR, WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO MORE, I BELIEVE.

THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE BRINGING ON OUR NEXT PERSON, ALL THE ONES LIKE.

MR. MAYOR, I HAVE FRIEND THOUGHT ON THE LINE, MR. FOX, GOOD EVENING. IF WE COULD KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

WE'RE KIND OF RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. A LOT OF TROUBLE.

I LOVE THEM. I LOVE THEM.

GOOD EVENING. YEAH, SO I HAVE A DIRECT QUESTION FOR MR. DAVIS, YOU SAID THAT IF YOU WANT TO TURN OFF YOUR WHAT YOU'RE WATCHING ON TV THAT I GOT IT. I GOT IT. OK, SO IT SEEMS TO BE SOME DISPUTE ABOUT WHAT SHE SAID, BUT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE BELIEF ABOUT THAT YOU SAID.

WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THERE.

YOUR KNOWLEDGE THAT MR. DAVIS THAT HAS BEEN TOTALLY IGNORED.

BUT THE IF I WAS CALLING IN NOW TO FIND OUT WHAT I KNEW PRIOR TO.

OPINION OF THE MAYOR'S PLAN, BUT WHAT WE GOT TO DO ABOUT IT.

SO WHY DON'T WE HEAR DIRECTLY FROM HIM WHAT HIS OPINION IS OR WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? AND THEN EVERYBODY WANTS TO HEAR THE THOUGHTS OF THE COUNCIL AS OPPOSED TO THE MAYOR.

AND WHY DON'T WE JUST ASK THE FIRE CHIEF DIRECT FROM TAMPA? I'D LIKE TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE FIRE CHIEF ABOUT THAT AND WHAT HIS OPINION IS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SAFETY THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE CITIZENS ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

THE LA VERNE. SO THAT'S BASICALLY MY ONE QUESTION.

AND MR. DAVIS WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT BE GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR..

ESTRELLA.

OK, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE TERRY KRESS ON THE LINE.

GOOD EVENING. IF WE COULD KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.

WE'RE KIND OF CRUNCH DOWN TIME.

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THIS APPEARS TO BE A WISH LIST OF KRESS DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES.

INSTEAD OF AN ANALYSIS OF OPERATIONAL DATA TO SUPPORT SUCH CHANGE TO THE OPERATIONAL MODEL, BUSINESS PRACTICES REQUIRE THAT TO CHANGE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

ORGANIZATIONALLY, WE NEED THE INPUT OF THE PERSON WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCILMAN IN COMING YEARS, AND THAT WILL BE THE NEW FIRE TO PROCEED WITH THIS TYPE OF CHANGE BEFORE THE NEW FIRE CHIEF HAS THE OPERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY ANALYZE THE ORGANIZATIONAL NEEDS IS IMPROVE THE NEW FIRE CHIEF, BRING HIS OWN OPERATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND FROM A DIFFERENT BUT SIMILAR BACKGROUND AND USING THOSE WORK LIFE EXPERIENCES, ALONG WITH ANALYSIS OF THE OPERATIONAL DATA, IS MORE LIKELY TO RESULT IN A BETTER OPERATIONAL MODEL PROPOSAL.

LET'S GIVE THEM THE TIME TO DIGEST AND ANALYZE THE CHALLENGES BEFORE THEM, INSTEAD OF MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, THEY MAY UNNECESSARILY IN THE PIT.

AND OUR SUCCESS, ORGANIZATIONAL STRENGTH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE SAID WITH ONE OR TWO COUNCIL MEMBER TRUSTEE WITH CURRENT PARTY PERSONNEL, ESPECIALLY WHEN ONE OF THEM, INTERIM FIRE CHIEF, IS ALWAYS ADMITTED HIS INTENTION TO RESIGN CHANGES.

PRESIDENT IS SUPPOSEDLY MUCH MORE ANALYSIS, THE DISCUSSION AS BEING FISCALLY PRUDENT FROM AN OVERALL PERSPECTIVE.

THIS APPEARS TO BE AN ANNUAL UNFUNDED COST OF AN ADDITIONAL ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH WOULD BE RESERVED FOR APPROXIMATELY SIX YEARS.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS REINSTATING THE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC PREMIUM PAID BEFORE ADDRESSING ANY OTHER ISSUES.

BUT FIRST THINGS FIRST, I APPRECIATE THAT EACH OF YOU WILL GIVE THIS MATTER INDEPENDENT AND THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION BEFORE VOTING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR..

GARY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? YES, MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE JOSEPH GABALDON ON THE LINE.

GO AHEAD, MR. GABALDON. GOOD EVENING.

IF YOU COULD KEEP IT UNDER THREE MINUTES.

WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER REGARDING THE PROPOSED SPEND FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I THINK THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, COUNCILMAN DAVIS WAS NOT AFFORDED THE FAIR PLATFORM FOR HIS COMMENTS AND PROBABLY WOULD NOT USE THE WORD RECKLESS THAT HE HAD A FAIR SHOT TO SPEAK IN ORDER. BUT GIVEN THAT THE RESIDENTS HADN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO SPEAK.

NOW I'M SURE THERE'LL BE A DIFFERENT OPINION BASED ON THE PRESSURE.

BUT AS A BUSINESSMAN, I LOOK AT THE MOTION TO TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BASED ON IMPROVEMENT IN SAFETY AND WELL, I BELIEVE IN SAFETY FIRST, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS AT THE VERY TOP OF THAT PYRAMID.

I BELIEVE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO THERE.

AND FROM A SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS STANDPOINT, I THINK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AS A WHOLE HAS NOT DONE THE WORK NECESSARY TO COME UP WITH A COHESIVE AND UNIFIED PLAN.

AND I THINK THAT THIS PLAN IS PROBABLY OUT OF ORDER, GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT IS A HARD STRENGTH PULL ON EVERYBODY'S EMOTIONS REGARDING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THE CITY. AND I LOVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND I LOVE THE FIRE STAFF.

BUT WHAT IS TOMORROW'S PROBLEM AT ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TODAY BASED ON IMPROVED SAFETY AND AT WHAT MEASURE THAT SAFETY IS ACTUALLY QUANTIFIABLE HELPS THE CITY WITH SO MANY OTHER ISSUES AND WITH MEASURE, YOU KNOW, COVID AFFECTED, BUT IN A POSITIVE WAY, AS REPORTED THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HELP.

BUT THE REALITY IS THAT FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, BASED ON THE BUDGETARY SPEND, WE'RE SPENDING MONEY EVERYWHERE.

AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S JUST IN A AND UNSUSTAINABLE POSITION AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL GOING TO COME UP WITH THAT COHESIVE CITY PLAN THAT SAYS WE CAN PAY ALL OUR BILLS WITHOUT APPLYING FOR A 50 MILLION DOLLAR PENSION BOND, THAT THE CITY PAYS THIRTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS BACK ON OVER THE COURSE OF 20 YEARS.

AND THESE THINGS NOT BEING CRYSTAL CLEAR TO THE RESIDENTS.

SO AS A MATTER OF JUST A BUSINESS DECISION, I THINK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LONG TERM SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION IS, AND AVOID MAKING AN EMOTIONAL DECISION BASED ON PERCEIVED

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. GABALDON. MR. MUIR, I'M JUST REFRESHING MY EMAIL.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE LAST CALLER.

WAIT A MINUTE. I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THE RESIDENTS TALKING ABOUT.

A FEW PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS IN THE ORGANIZATION.

THESE ARE THE VOICES THEY RUN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UNDER THE CHIEF'S GUISE, MULTIPLE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH FIRE CREWS, WITH FIRE, WITH PARAMEDICS.

THEY ALL HAD A PLAN AND THEY ALL AGREED TO IT.

AND IT WAS A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN WITH DOLLARS ATTACHED TO IT.

THIS ISN'T RECKLESS.

THIS ISN'T JUST A CREW OF PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST THROWING SOMETHING OUT THERE.

THESE PEOPLE HAVE 20, 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE, FOUR YEARS EXPERIENCE COMBINED.

DIDN'T KNOW THE FIRE SERVICE AND IT WORKED UNDER MULTIPLE TREES.

SO THIS PLAN IS NOT SOMETHING.

THIS IS FOLLOWING EXACTLY WHAT THE MASSENA REPORT SAYS.

BUT WE HAVE TO PUT SOME FUNDING IN THIS.

THEY ARE. NO BUSINESSES ARE CLOSED, PUBLIC COMMENT MOVED TO COUNCILWOMAN, MR. CROSBY. YES, I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY READ THE MS. IN THE REPORT THAT SAYS IF THE CITY DECIDES TO CONTINUE WITH THE ELVIE F.D., A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOULD BE DEVELOPED TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT CHALLENGES TO INCLUDE HIRING A FIRE CHIEF WITH THE APPROPRIATE SKILL SET AND SUPPORTING THE CHIEF'S EFFORTS OVER THE LONG TERM.

ADDITIONALLY, SHOULD THE COUNCIL DECIDE TO CONTINUE PROVIDING SERVICE THROUGH THE ELVIE F.T., IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY AND OF THE FDA TO ENGAGE IN A DETAILED REVIEW OF THE ENTIRETY OF ITS OPERATIONS AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY RISK PROFILE.

THIS TYPE OF COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW IS CONTAINED IN AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, AND THIS COMES WITH ASSOCIATED COSTS BASED ON THE LEVEL OF DETAIL DESIRED.

THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO DO.

WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR PROPOSAL IN OUR BUDGET TO OPEN UP SEASON THREE.

IT'S JUST NOT STAFFED YET.

BUT I KNOW WE HAVE THAT IN THE IN THE BUDGET.

WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IN THE BUDGET IS AN EXTRA FIRE APPARATUS UP ON STATION THREE.

I KNOW PRIOR TO THAT STATION, THREE ONLY HAD THREE TO FIVE MEDICAL CALLS A WEEK.

THAT'S NOT A DAY.

THAT'S A WEEK WITH 80 PERCENT OF ALL CALLS, 85 PERCENT OF ALL CALLS BEING MEDICAL FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. SO WHAT I THINK WE NEED PROPOSE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE SLC TO FIND OUT IF IT SAYS WE NEED IT THERE, THEN DEFINITELY WE NEED IT THERE.

ALSO, WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WITH THE MEETING WITH THE LA VERNE FIRE ASSOCIATION THAT BY DOING THIS, IT WOULD MAKE US HAVE AUTOMATIC AID WITH THE COUNTY.

THAT HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED AS WELL.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE KNOW ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS MAKES US HAVE AUTOMATIC AID, THEN WE KNOW WHAT THE COST OF THAT IS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT FOR FOR THAT, AGAIN, WITH MANY RESIDENTS AND SORRY, MS. GABALDON, IF I DON'T SAY RESIDENTS ENOUGH, BUT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR RESIDENTS AND PART OF OUR PROTECTION IS NOT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AS WELL.

AND BY DOING THAT BY THE SLC CCRA, THAT'S WHAT WILL HELP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE GET TO THE PLACE THAT WE NEED TO BE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERED AND COVERED CORRECTLY FOR ALL OF OUR FIRE, FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

SO MY MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND FOLLOWING THE REPORT FOR THAT, THAT'S WHAT THE BUSINESS SAYS IN ITS CONCLUSION. COUNCIL MEMBER CARDER.

YES. AND IT'S FUNNY YOU MENTION THE MASINA REPORT, RICK, BECAUSE I HAD PULLED UP THE SENATE REPORT, TOO, WHEN I HEARD THIS WAS POSSIBLY GOING TO BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT.

WE AS COUNCIL, I WANT THE PUBLIC OUT THERE TO KNOW.

WE AS COUNCIL REALLY DIDN'T GET MUCH INFORMATION ON THIS.

I THINK THIS WAS JUST PUT TOGETHER AND NOT I DISCUSSED TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE INFORMATION, ALL OF US.

BUT ONE THING I DO KNOW IS WE AS RESIDENTS, CITIZENS OF LA VERNE, PAID FOR A MASINA REPORT. WE PAID FOR THAT SERVICES TO HAPPEN.

AND ON PAGE FIFTY TO THE VERY LAST PAGE, TABLE NUMBER TEN, NEXT.

YES. IF WE WANT TO KEEP OUR LA VERNE FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICES, THE VERY FIRST THING IS

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WE AS COUNSEL DO NOT DICTATE WHAT DEPARTMENTS DO.

WE ARE RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO SET RULES AND REGULATIONS.

WE LISTEN, WE TALK TO OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, BUT THAT IS WHO WE CONVERSE WITH.

IT IS UP TO DEPARTMENT HEADS TO DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT.

SO MY BELIEF IS HERE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HIRE OUR FIRE CHIEF.

WE HAVE INTERVIEWS WITH THEY SCHEDULED TO HIRE THE FIRE CHIEF AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS. WE ARE IN THE STEP.

THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING.

WHEN I MET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I DID TELL THEM AND EVERYONE KNOWS I, ALONG WITH SIXTEEN HUNDRED RESIDENTS, WANTED TO KEEP OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

SO, TIM, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT YOU NOW REALIZE WE ARE GOING TO KEEP OUR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH THAT.

I TELL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT, YES, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER WE NEED, THE MONEY THAT WE WOULD SPEND ON COUNTY OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO 15, 20 YEARS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PUT INTO OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I WANT TO SEE THEM GROW, BUT I WANT THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS TO KNOW THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS A HAS ALL THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED.

WE ASK ALL THE TIME.

WHAT DO YOU NEED TO HAVE IT IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S UP TO THE BATTALION CHIEF TO LET US KNOW WHAT THEY NEED AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN LET US KNOW.

LET THE DEPARTMENT HEAD NOW TO COME TO THE CITY MANAGER WHO IS OUR CEO AND GET THE PROPER EQUIPMENT THEY NEED.

IT'S NOT UP TO US TO DO THIS.

A COUPLE OTHER STATEMENTS, FRED, WAS VERY CORRECT.

FRED FAULT. HE IS VERY CORRECT.

THE FIRE CHIEF THAT IS GOING TO BE HIRED.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH FOUR INTERIM FIRE CHIEFS AND GOING BACK TO EVEN THAT ALL THE FIRST SUMMERS AS INTERIM CHIEF, HE EVEN SAID HE WAS THE ONE THAT WANTED TO CLOSE DOWN THE STATION, NUMBER THREE, BECAUSE HE SAID THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE RESPONSES UP HERE TO WARRANT THE SERVICES.

BUT I KNOW LIVING UP HERE, THE RESIDENTS WANT THAT OPEN.

BUT IT WAS BUILT WITH THE INTENTION OF FORESTRY WAS UP HERE AT THE TIME AND PARAMEDIC SERVICES ONLY.

SO I, I WOULD MAKE A PROPOSAL.

ACTUALLY, I WROTE ONE DOWN IS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BOB TO IF WE CAN LOOK INTO IT, IS WHY DO WE GO BACK TO HIRING THE PARAMEDICS THAT WE NEED SO THAT WE CAN STAFF THIS, GET WHAT WE NEED HIRED, PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET.

AND THEN ALSO IN THE SENATE REPORT, I ALSO SAID, WHY DON'T WE BUDGET FOR THE STANDARD OF COVERAGE IN A COMMUNITY RISK ASSESSMENT STUDY THAT IS RECOMMENDED FROM THE ABC IN A REPORT THAT SAYS, HOW CAN WE MOVE FORWARD AS A GROUP COMING TOGETHER UNLESS WE HAVE THESE REPORTS THAT'S GOING TO BRING US TOGETHER TO SET GOALS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I SEE.

I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE.

RESERVES ARE MEANT FOR A ONE TIME EXPENSE, SALARIES, HIRING NEW EMPLOYEES IS AN ONGOING EXPENSE THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD, A ONE POINT FIVE EXPENSE ONGOING.

SO WE NEED TO TURN THIS OVER TO THE NEW FIRE CHIEF TO MUIR PROPOSAL COULD GO TO THE NEW FIRE CHIEF AND WHAT YOU HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE STAFF AND LET HIM ASSESS WHAT HE FEELS HE NEEDS. BUT HE NEEDS TO GET ON BOARD.

WE MOVE FORWARD ALL TOGETHER.

WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

BUT LET'S NOT FORGET, WE HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITH NEEDS.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS VERY QUIET, BUT THEY NEED EMPLOYEES.

THEY NEED STILL EQUIPMENT.

LUCKILY, WE'RE GETTING NEW CARS FOR THEM.

AND THEN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS GETTING THREE NEW TRUCKS, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, COMMUNITY SERVICES. SO LET'S REACH OUT TO ALL OF THEM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S MY PROPOSAL IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US BUDGET TO GET THE PARAMEDICS HIRED AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RISK ASSESSMENT AND THE STANDARD OF COVERAGE.

IF I MAY JUST CLARIFY, SORRY, MR. MAYOR, THE PARAMEDICS ARE BUDGET IN THOSE WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FILL THEM.

WE'VE BEEN IN A CONSTANT STATE OF RECRUITMENT TRYING TO FILL THOSE REMAINING TWO SPOTS SO WE CAN REOPEN STATION THREE FOR PARAMEDIC SERVICE, COULD GO THERE IN THE BUDGET AND DURING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARDER.

OR IF WE LOOK LIKE JUST KIND OF TRYING TO BRING SOME LEVITY, FOLKS, BUT I DID WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY INTIMATED WITH HIS COMMENTS PREVIOUSLY.

AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH RESPECT TO THE NECESSITY FOR THE APPROPRIATE DATA SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN A MEANINGFUL AND THOUGHTFUL WAY, BECAUSE WE CAN ALL SIT HERE AND

[01:45:01]

BUT THAT'S BASED ON CONJECTURE.

AND THAT'S WHY THE MASINA REPORT, AS COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY INDICATED, SAYS THAT YOU DO NEED TO DO AND SEE AND YOU DO NEED TO DO A STORY BECAUSE NOT EVERY CITY IS THE SAME.

NOT ALL THE NEEDS OF EVERY CITY ARE THE SAME.

AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S GOING TO BE UNIQUE TO US, TO SAY WHAT IS REALLY AND TRULY NECESSARY. AND IF IT IS THAT, HEY, YOU NEED TO OPEN STATION THREE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE FIRE AND PARAMEDICS, THEN WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT AND WE COME UP WITH A SUSTAINABLE PLAN TOGETHER FOR HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.

BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED, MUCH LIKE, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN MENTIONED BY SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS ON THIS MEETING, IS THAT HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THIS AND THE LONG TERM? BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE A BAND-AID.

IF WE TAKE FUNDS FROM X AMOUNT, CAN WE EVEN USE THOSE FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF THIS TO ROBIN, COUNCILWOMAN, ROBIN, ROBIN, CARDER POINT.

YOU DON'T USE RESERVES FOR OPERATING COSTS FOR ONGOING COST.

THAT'S A ONE TIME EXPENSE.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PLAN FOR WHAT THE LONG TERM LOOKS LIKE? IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY, TRULY THINK ABOUT THE PERPETUITY OF THE CITY AND THE SUCCESS OF THE CITY IN THE LONG RUN, THEN WE NEED TO OPERATE ON FACTS.

I THINK MR. GABALDON SAID IT ACCURATELY.

WE NEED TO TAKE THE EMOTION OUT OF THIS AND LET'S LOOK AT THE FACTS.

IT'S REALLY EASY TO PULL ON HEARTSTRINGS, BUT THE HARDER THING IS GOING TO BE HOW DO WE MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING TO BE ALLOCATED SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TREE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE US SUSTAINABLE SO THAT THIS IS AND CONTINUES TO BE A SAFE AND GOOD PLACE FOR ALL OF US TO LIVE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO BASICS AND SAY FIRST THINGS FIRST, LET'S DO THAT, LET'S DO THIS GREAT. LET'S ENGAGE THE INPUT OF THE CURRENT CHIEF TO SAY WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND WHAT IS. SUCCESSFUL, WE CAN'T JUST THROW THINGS OUT THERE AND HOPE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WORK WITHOUT GETTING THE INPUT NECESSARY IN THE ACTUAL FACTS AND DATA AND NUMBERS NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER LAU COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK THAT MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS WERE HITTING IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD AND AND I CONCUR WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE HAVE THE BUDGET FOR THE TWO PARAMEDICS, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE.

SO TO THROW ADDITIONAL PIECES ON TOP OF THAT IS THE REASON AND THE SENSITIVITY WITH OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THIS HAS GONE ON FOR AS MANY YEARS AS IT HAS AND IS A VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT. THAT'S WHY I USED THE TERM AND WILL CONTINUE TO TO TO I BELIEVE THAT YOUR BEHAVIOR TONIGHT HAS BEEN RECKLESS, MAYOR.

I THINK WE COULD ADDRESS THIS IN A MUCH MORE EMOTIONLESS AND A MUCH MORE THOUGHTFUL WAY.

AND SO I SUPPORT BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER, CROSBY AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARDER PROPOSAL TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS NECESSARY FOR ASSOC.

CCRA ASSESSMENT AND SEE WHAT THAT TELLS US, BECAUSE AS YOU SAID IN ONE OF YOUR MINUTES WITH THE MAYOR, NUMBER ONE THING IS FUNDING.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND THAT.

THE NUMBER TWO THING WAS HIRER CHIEF.

AND WITH THAT CHIEF THERE AND THE ASSOCIATE, WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT IT IS THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DAVIS YOU KEEP USING RECKLESS.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS HAS BEEN FOUR YEARS OF BASICALLY A ROUGH ROAD FOR ALL OF US AND SOME OF US EVEN MORE SO.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT BACK A ROLE MODEL STATION WITH TWO PARAMEDICS, AN AMBULANCE, TWO PARAMEDIC AMBULANCES, THE SAME SITUATION WE HAD BEFORE, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD MODEL.

IT'S NOT A GOOD MODEL FOR SUPERVISION.

IF WE DON'T PUT THE PRIDE BACK IN THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT.

NOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR ISSUE.

THOSE TWO PEOPLE THAT I'M ASKING FOR STAFFING, WHICH IS 13 AND EVEN USING RESERVES, IT'S NOT RECKLESS. IT'S RIDING A SHIP THAT'S BEEN WRONG FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

THIS HAS BEEN DESIGNED BY AN FIRE CHIEF, THREE BATTALION CHIEFS AND THE ASSOCIATION.

THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WILL WORK.

YES, WE NEED A NEW FIRE CHIEF.

BUT TALKING TO OTHER FIRE CHIEFS, THIS GIVES THEM THE TOOLS TO START.

THIS IS A TEMPORARY MEASURE FOR A YEAR, BUT WE CAN FIND SOME SUSTAINABLE FUNDING.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY FOR SAFETY.

IT'S NOT JUST SPENDING DOLLARS FRIVOLOUSLY AND RECKLESS.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR WAY TOO LONG.

WE NEED TO STAFF THAT FIRE STATION WITH AN ENGINE AND A FULL CREW THAT WILL GIVE US FULL CAPABILITY, PLUS AN AMBULANCE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

FORGET ABOUT THE FIRES.

PARAMEDIC CALLS IS ONE OF OUR FACES.

THIS GETS US CLOSER TO NFPA STANDARD, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 17, WHICH WE PROBABLY WON'T GET TO. BUT 13 GETS US CLOSER.

IT PUTS THE PRIDE BACK IN OUR EMPLOYEES TO KNOW THAT WE CARE ABOUT THEM.

THIS IS FOR INTERNAL ADVANCEMENT.

THIS IS ALSO FOR PEOPLE TO COME INTO A COMMUNITY KNOWING THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO STICK. WE'RE NOT ASSURED WE'RE GOING TO GET A FIRE CHIEF.

WE'VE GOT AN INTERRUPT FOR A FEW MONTHS.

WE'RE NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FIRE CHIEF.

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I'VE BEEN PUTTING UP WITH THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

WE HAVE MANAGEMENT.

WE HAVE MANAGEMENT ISSUES WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS OUR CITY MANAGER.

AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT LAY HEAVILY ON OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS AND MOVE FORWARD.

I'M QUITE FRANKLY, TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT IT.

THIS IS WHERE THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD.

WE EITHER FUND THIS RIGHT NOW WITH RESERVES FOR USE FROM OTHER FUNDING.

AND YES, I DO CARE ABOUT EVERY RESIDENT AND THE OTHER REASON I CARE ABOUT EVERY RESIDENT BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO BE SAFE, BUT ALSO FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AREN'T SAFE, OUR RESIDENTS.

I'M SAY THIS IS A MATTER OF REBUILDING AND GIVING THE NEW CHIEF THE TOOLS AHEAD OF TIME.

WE'LL DO THE STANDARDS OF COVERAGE.

YES, THEY'RE IMPORTANT. WE CAN DO THAT WHEN HE GETS ON BOARD.

THIS METHOD I'M TALKING ABOUT IS GOING TO TAKE A FEW MONTHS TO EVEN PUT TOGETHER IF YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, BECAUSE THERE'S YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY ALL YOUR AGENCIES THAT YOU'RE BRINGING ANOTHER FIRE STATION ON.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS NOT A FLY BY NIGHT.

THIS IS NOT RECKLESS.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I JUST THOUGHT.

I'VE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH.

SORRY, GUYS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR EMPLOYEE GROUP AND, YES, ALL OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES.

DO I CARE ABOUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM? SO I WOULD JUST POSE THIS QUESTION, AND I'M NOT AND I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THE START OF OUR COUNCIL MEETING, BUT.

UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT I'VE JUST HEARD IS THAT WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS, ONGOING PROBLEMS WITH RECRUITING PARAMEDICS IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THAT'S ALREADY BUDGETED FOR THAT, ACTUALLY HAS THE PROBLEM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE MONEY FOR THAT? NO. TO WHAT EXTENT AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER.

I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO MULL THIS OVER.

TO WHAT EXTENT DO WE BELIEVE THAT IF WE ARE SAYING TO FOLKS WE'RE GOING TO DO A ONE TIME EXPENDITURE TO STAFF UP THIS FIRE STATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN A YEAR OR TWO BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY'S COMING FROM.

WHAT HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT? THAT ACTUALLY HELPS OUR RECRUITMENT EFFORTS? BECAUSE I'M NOT WHEN I GO LOOKING FOR A JOB, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A JOB FOR ONE YEAR.

I'M LOOKING FOR SOMEPLACE THAT I CAN STAY FOR A WHILE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT A POSSIBILITY.

AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SOCOM, THE CIA FIRST TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDS SHOULD GO, BECAUSE I THINK NO MATTER WHAT, WE ARE SPENDING MONEY AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS CITY BECAUSE WE ARE UNIQUE AND ITS RESIDENTS, BECAUSE WE ARE UNIQUE FROM OTHER RESIDENTS AND OTHER PLACES, BUT ALSO THAT WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE PLAN SO THAT WHEN WE ARE OUT RECRUITING FOR FOLKS TO FILL THESE POSITIONS, THEY'RE NOT THINKING, GOSH, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO GO THERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A VIABLE POSITION THAT WILL REMAIN OPEN FOR ME IN THE YEAR TO COME.

AND I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS AGAIN TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO WORK SO THAT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK OF TOP OF MIND AS I'M THINKING, BIG PICTURE ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TOGETHER.

SO YOU COULD BE RIGHT.

MAYBE THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT STATION THREE.

BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE DATA IS.

I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE SC SAYS.

I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE CIA SAYS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO INDIVIDUALS AND WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

THAT'S WHAT OUR STAFF IS FORCED TO WORK ON, A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE.

WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE RUNNING, OPERATING, OPERATING CORRECTLY, NOT CONSTANTLY. WE'RE GOING TO LOSE MORE PEOPLE AND CONTINUALLY LOSE MORE PEOPLE UNTIL WE PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, WHETHER IT'S TEMPORARY OR THIS YEAR WE FUNDED THE NEXT YEAR WE HAVE TO WE GO TO RESERVES TO THAT'S WHERE OUR RESERVES ARE FOR THERE ARE FOUR TO FUND THINGS THAT NEED TO BE SAFE, ESPECIALLY OUR EMPLOYEE GROUP, ESPECIALLY OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

NEEDS TO BE DONE. I'M SORRY, BUT MR. RUSSI, WHAT DO YOU NEED FOR DIRECTION FROM US? I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE WHAT THE DESIRE IS, THE COUNCIL.

I HAVE TWO APPROACHES, HAVE THE MAYOR'S IDEA OF THE STAFFING.

AND I WILL CLARIFY.

IT'S NOT JUST TWO PEOPLE.

THAT'S SIX PEOPLE IN TOTAL BECAUSE YOU HAVE THREE SHIFTS THAT YOU NEED TO FILL.

SO THAT'S WHY THE PEOPLE ARE MAKING ONE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS FOR TWO PEOPLE.

IT'S ACTUALLY SIX THAT WE WOULD BE STANDING UP.

SO THERE'S THAT OPTION. OR THEN I'VE ALSO HEARD THE APPROACH THAT YOU AND MAYOR DAVIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY PUT OUT THERE TO PURSUE THE SLC.

SO IT'S EITHER THOSE OR EITHER OF THOSE OR BOTH, I GUESS.

WHAT DO YOU NEED A GENERAL DIRECTION AS TO HOW I SHOULD FINISH PUTTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER? DO YOU WANT TO PUT INTO MOTION OR JUST DIRECTIONS ON THIS? I MEAN, WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS THAT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GENERAL SUPPORT AND SO I WILL PLAN TO DO THAT UNLESS I'M INCORRECT.

AND WHEN I'M HERE, I'M GOING TO MAKE MY REQUEST THAT WE FUND IT NOW WITH RESERVE FUNDS AND ALSO OTHER FUNDS FOR THIS YEAR AND WORK ON A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE.

THAT IS MY REQUEST.

SO WE EITHER SAY YES OR NO.

THEN YOU MOVE TO THE OTHER. I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT.

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COUNCIL MEMBER LAU, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY, I SUPPORT LOOKING AT IT FOR FOR A PLAN FROM SLC FIRST LINE.

THAT'S MY THAT'S MY PREFERENCE AS WELL, IS THAT WE CAN HIRE AND A FIRE CHIEF LIKE THE MS. DATA REPORT SAYS.

YES. OK.

I SUPPORT MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE, THOUGH, THERE'S FOUR TO ONE.

ANY MORE COMMENT OR DISCUSSION? I DON'T THINK SO, ANYBODY ELSE, MORE COMMENTS.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO GO BACK, PUT THE BOOKS TOGETHER BASED ON EVERYTHING YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT, PLUS THE CHANGES THAT WERE JUST THE CHANGE THAT WAS JUST SUGGESTED.

AND YOU'LL HAVE THEM IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEN WE WILL GET THEM OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO GET THE THE ELECTRONIC VERSION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY SHORTLY AFTER WE GET THEM TO THE COUNCIL. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

I KNOW WE'RE AT SIX TWENTY SEVEN RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE EMAILING ALL THE ATTENDEES OF THE NEXT MEETING AND LET THEM KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DELAYED A COUPLE MINUTES AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING UP ON THE LIVESTREAM JUST SO PEOPLE ARE WAITING THERE WONDERING ON A BLACK SCREEN.

SO WE'LL TAKE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OR SO AND THEN SWITCH OVER TO THE OTHER.

OK, DON'T CANCEL.

NO, I'M GOING TO START THE MEETING, SO IT WILL BE LIVE WHEN YOU COME BACK, YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO CALL IT TO ORDER. BUT JUST SAY NO, YOU WILL BE LIVE ONCE YOU COME BACK INTO THAT SEPARATE MEETING YOURSELVES.

IT'S MY LAST MOMENT.

MY LAST COMMENT, MR. RUSSI IS THAT I'M DISAPPOINTED AND I THINK THAT WE TOOK MONEY OVER SAFETY.

AND I AM I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED.

THANK YOU. WE CLOSE THE MEETING AT SIX WENDY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.