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          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO START THIS MEETING IN ONE SECOND HERE. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO START THE MEETING AT 6:31. 
          IF WE COULD RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TONIGHT, WE HAVE ARMY RETIRED MR. DAVE ALVARADO FROM THE BAND OF BROTHERS 1234. 
          AND WE HAVE COMMANDER PHIL RAMIREZ WITH US. 
          AND IF YOU COULD ALL PLEASE RISE. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU THE MIC SIR. 
          PLEASE, PLEASE FACE THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR
WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ALVARADO. ROLL CALL, MR. CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER KASHIFALGHITA HERE. 
          COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER LAU PRESENT. 
          [4. PRESENTATIONS]
MAYOR PRO TEM CROSBY HERE. 
          MAYOR HEPBURN HERE. 
          THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING. 
          REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU FOR SERVING. 
          WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. 
          MR. DOMER, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, WE DO, SIR. THEY'LL BE DOING IT VIA ONLINE. 
          I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE ONLINE. 
          AND J.R., ARE WE READY? I THINK SO. ALL RIGHT. 
          [INAUDIBLE] AND GET A THUMBS UP THAT MY SCREEN IS SHOWING. 
          PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, HI, EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS [IANUDIBLE]. 
          I AM HERE TODAY TO PRESENT ON THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION PLAN RESULTS
SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY OF LA VERNE. 
          LA VERNE PARTICIPATED IN A PROJECT FUNDED BY THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
GOVERNMENTS. 
          ALISON [INAUDIBLE] WHO'S BEEN OUR PROJECT MANAGER FROM [INAUDIBLE] IS ALSO ON THE LINE
TODAY. 
          LA VERNE PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROJECT FOR THE PAST A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS NOW WITH 17
OTHER CITIES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. 
          AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO REVIEW SOME OF THE RESULTS SPECIFIC TO YOUR CITY TONIGHT. 
          SO I WANTED TO START BY GOING OVER JUST A FEW KEY OBJECTIVES OF THE PROJECT. 
          SO THERE ARE OBJECTIVES FROM REALLY THREE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS. 
          ONE WAS FOR SKY, AND SO THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN A REGIONAL REGION WIDE SUITABILITY
ANALYSIS FOR EV INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO INTEGRATE THAT INTO THEIR EV ATLAS. 
          COLLECT REAL TIME FEEDBACK FROM CITIES ON THEIR CHALLENGES AND SUCCESSES ON EV ADOPTION
THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT AND CREATING RESOURCES THAT WOULD BE USEFUL NOT JUST FOR THE CITIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROJECT, BUT FOR OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE
ENTIRE REGION. 
          FOR CITIES, SOME OF THE SPECIFIC OUTCOMES WERE SOME POLICY GUIDANCE AND IMPLEMENTATION
BEST PRACTICES. 
          LOOKING AT SOME SPECIFIC SITES WITHIN YOUR CITIES AND DEVELOP SAMPLE EV LAYOUTS FOR SOME
OF THE HIGHEST SCORING SITES AND SUITABILITY ANALYSIS AND TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR LOCAL CHALLENGES WERE AND HOW TO BEST OVERCOME THEM. 
          WE ALSO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT, PARTICIPATING IN COMMUNITY EVENTS,
UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEIR BARRIERS FOR ADOPTION, AND ALSO OUTREACHING TO OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS LIKE PROPERTY MANAGERS ON HOW THEY CAN, WHAT THEIR BARRIERS WORK IN
INSTALLING EV CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS IN THE EV WORLD RIGHT NOW. 
          SO SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT IS THAT [INAUDIBLE] BACK IN AUGUST, WHICH IS WHAT
WILL REQUIRE 100% OF NEW PASSENGER CAR SALES TO BE ZERO EMISSION BY 2035. 
          THIS FORMALIZES GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT TARGETS 8 MILLION EVS ON THE ROAD
BY 2030. 
          AND BASED ON AN ANALYSIS THAT THE CDC COMPLETED, 1.2 MILLION CHARGERS WILL BE NEEDED TO
SUPPORT EVS IN 2030. 
          AND SO WHERE DO WE STAND TODAY? AS OF THE END OF LAST YEAR, 1.4 MILLION EVS WERE SOLD IN CALIFORNIA, REPRESENTING NEARLY
ONE IN FIVE CAR SALES. 
          AND THERE'S ALMOST 80,000 CHARGING STATIONS IN THE STATE. 
          THAT'S A LOT. BUT IT'S STILL A FAR CRY FROM THE 1.2 MILLION THAT WE NEED. 
          SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE CITY OF LA VERNE? SO IF WE TAKE THE STATEWIDE ANALYSIS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AND SCALE IT DOWN TO JUST THE
CITY OF LA VERNE BY THE END OF THE DECADE, WE'D EXPECT OVER 6,500 EVS TO BE REGISTERED IN 
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YOUR CITY BY 2030. 
          AND MANY UPWARDS OF 1,000 PUBLICLY AVAILABLE CHARGING STATIONS TO SUPPORT THOSE VEHICLES. 
          THAT'S ASSUMING THE CEC ANALYSIS OF PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON LEVEL TWO CHARGING. 
          GIVEN FUNDING LIKE NEVI AND CALEVIP 2.0, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW INCREASING THE PROPORTION OF
DCFC FAST CHARGING, WHICH IS WHERE YOU CAN RECHARGE IN USUALLY UP TO 80% IN UNDER HALF AN HOUR. 
          HOW DOES THAT IMPACT CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAY BE NEEDED? AND SO WE CREATED A PATHWAY THAT LOOKS AT AROUND 25% OF CHARGES BEING DC AND 50% OF
CHARGERS BEING DC FAST CHARGERS. 
          AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS ON THE TABLE HERE. 
          THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT ANY OF THESE PATHWAYS ARE PRESCRIPTIVE FOR THE CITY OF LA VERNE,
BUT REALLY HELP PROVIDE REALLY HELP UNDERSTAND WHAT DIFFERENT OPTIONS MAY BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT A POPULATION OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES. 
          AS I MENTIONED, WE DID A SUITABILITY ANALYSIS NOT FOR THE ENTIRE REGION. 
          AND SO FOCUSING IN WITH JUST JUST THE CITY OF LA VERNE, WE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED FOUR
DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS PROJECT TO REALLY REFLECT THE DIFFERENT STAGES OF EV ADOPTION OR TO FOCUS ON OR TO HAVE DIFFERENT FOCUSES. 
          SO WE'VE GOT SOME SCENARIOS THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, PRIORITIZE THE EARLY EV ADOPTERS AND
REALLY FOCUS ON THOSE PRIMARY LOCATIONS. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT OTHER SCENARIOS THAT REALLY PRIORITIZE SOME OF THE HARDER TO REACH
AREAS MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS, LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. 
          THESE RESULTS ARE BEING INTEGRATED WITH SKAGGS PV ATLAS, SO IT'LL BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE
PUBLIC, INCLUDING CITIES, DEVELOPERS AND PLANNERS, TO REALLY IDENTIFY PRIORITY AREAS FOR EV INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THESE CAN BE USED BY THE CITY TO TARGET OUTREACH TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR IDENTIFY
LOCATIONS FOR PRIVATE, PUBLIC OR EVEN CURBSIDE CHARGING. 
          ANOTHER THING THAT WE CAN DO WITH THE RESULT OF THIS IS IF WE START TO COMPARE MULTIPLE
SCENARIOS TOGETHER, THERE'S ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE CAN TAKE AWAY. 
          SO WE FIND THAT AND THIS IS TRUE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES. 
          THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE SCORING VERY HIGHLY ACROSS ALL THE SCENARIOS
THAT WE LOOKED AT. 
          AND SO THIS HELPS PROVIDE AN AREA THAT WE SHOULD REALLY PRIORITIZE FOR SOME OF THESE
EARLY EV DEPLOYMENTS. 
          AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE, WE'VE GOT AREAS THAT ARE SCORING POORLY ACROSS ALL SCENARIOS. 
          AND SO WE KNOW THAT WE CAN AVOID THEM TO SAVE SOME TIME. 
          AND LASTLY, THE AREAS SORT OF IN PURPLE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN SCORING CHANGES PRETTY
SIGNIFICANTLY THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. 
          AND THIS HELPS TO INFORM PHASING ON WHEN WE SHOULD TARGET CERTAIN AREAS AS THE EV
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITY BEGINS TO GROW. 
          WHEN WE [INAUDIBLE] WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THE TOP FIVE SITES FROM THE SUITABILITY
ANALYSIS AND SORT OF FILTERED THEM OUT FOR SOME VIABILITY AND THEN REQUESTED FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY ON WHAT SITES WE SHOULD CONDUCT A SITE EVALUATION FOR. 
          AND THE SITE EVALUATION CONSISTED OF A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT AND CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES
FOR THE EV CHARGING STATIONS. 
          WE'VE ALSO CREATED BLANK TEMPLATES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE ON SCAGS WEBSITE FOR CITIES TO
USE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS THAT THEY WANT TO DEVELOP. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM CITIES WAS HOW TO DEVELOP THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. 
          AND SO WE CREATED A STANDARDIZED DESIGN GUIDE TO HELP INFORM NOT JUST THE PROJECTS THAT
WE DID HERE, BUT FOR ANY FUTURE PROJECTS. 
          AND SO FOR ONE EXAMPLE, WE REFERENCED THE 2019 BUILDING CODES AS A STARTING POINT TO SIZE
LEVEL TWO PROJECTS, AND THAT ACTUALLY ALIGNS VERY THE NEW CONSTRUCTION CODES IN 2019 ALIGN ACTUALLY VERY CLOSELY WITH THE 2022 CODE PROVISIONS
FOR MODIFICATIONS TO EXISTING TO EXISTING BUILDINGS. WE THEN PROVIDE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO EXCEED THIS REQUIREMENT IN
SMALL MULTI-UNIT DWELLINGS TO PROVIDE CHARGING TO ALL TENANTS. 
          AND WE ALSO RECOMMEND DC FAST CHARGING FOR SITES WHERE WE EXPECT THE SHORT DWELL TIME TO
BE UNDER AN HOUR. 
          AND WHAT WE JUST FIVE OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT, THE LA VERNE. 
          I'M JUST GOING TO PRESENT ONCE A DAY. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SUITABILITY ANALYSIS CAN'T CAPTURE ALL THE RELEVANT
CHARACTERISTICS THAT MAKE THE SITE VIABLE. 
          AND SO FACTORS LIKE PARKING LOT SIZE, PROXIMITY TO POWER AND ADA COMPLIANCE ALL IMPACT
THE VIABILITY AND OR FINAL COST TO INSTALL AN EV CHARGING STATIONS. 
          AND SO LOOKING AT THE LA VERNE CIVIC CENTER, THIS IS A VERY, VERY VISIBLE SITE IN THE
COMMUNITY. 
          THE EV CHARGERS WOULD BE GREAT TO EITHER SUPPORT STAFF OR THE PUBLIC THAT ARE COMING IN. 
          IT'S VERY WELL LIT, SO IT'S KIND OF AN AREA FOR SAFETY AND FOR MAYBE CHARGING OVERNIGHT. 
          AT THIS SITE, WE RECOMMEND NINE LEVEL TWO CHARGING POINTS GIVEN THE PARKING LOT SIZE AND
[INAUDIBLE] TIME. 
          AND WE NEED RELATIVELY MODERATE ADA IMPROVEMENTS, PROBABLY A NEW ACCESS AISLE AND MAYBE
SOME GRADING AND EXCAVATION FOR THE ADA INSTALLS. 
          AND WE ESTIMATE THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD COST AROUND $160,000 OR JUST UNDER $18,000 FOR
[INAUDIBLE]. 
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WE ALSO LOOKED AT CERTAIN POLICIES THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS PROJECT, SPECIFICALLY
REGARDING ASSEMBLY BILL 1236 AND AB 970. 
          AND JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND, AB 1236 REQUIRES CITIES TO PASS ORDINANCES AND DEVELOP A
CHECKLIST THAT STREAMLINES THEIR EV CHARGING STATION PERMITTING PROCESS. 
          AND AB 970 WAS PASSED IN 2021, WHICH SUPERSEDED THIS IN A WAY THAT THEN ESTABLISHED
TIMELINES FOR CITIES TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THESE PERMITS. 
          AND THE PERMITS WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMPLETE AND APPROVED AFTER THESE APPLICABLE
TIMELINES AND CITIES HAVEN'T PROCESSED THEM ALREADY. 
          THERE'S A FLOW CHART HERE ON THE SLIDE THAT KIND OF EXPLAINS THE GENERAL PROCESS. 
          DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDOUT THAT WOULD IMPACT THE TIMELINE UNDER AB 970. 
          SO WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH THE CITY OF LA VERNE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR CITY'S PERMITTING
PROCESS, WE BELIEVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMPLIANT WITH AB 1236 AND THE WAY THAT AND THE WAY THAT YOU'RE FALLING INTO THAT COMPLIANCE IS BY ADOPTING [INAUDIBLE]
COUNTY'S ELECTRIC CODE, WHICH DOES CONTAIN THE STREAMLINED ORDINANCE AND CHECKLIST REQUIRED UNDER AB 1236. 
          I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT IF YOU WERE TO GO TO GO BUSINESS WEBSITE, WHICH IS TRACKING THIS
THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE, YOU MAY SEE IT THERE. 
          NOT THAT THE CITY MAY NOT BE COMPLIANT, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT LOOKING
AT CITIES THAT ARE ADOPTING OTHER REGULATIONS THAT HAVE THIS VETTED. 
          AND SO THEY MAY STILL ENCOURAGE CITIES TO TAKE THESE NEXT STEPS OF PASSING THE ORDINANCE
AND CHECKLIST. 
          WE ALSO FIND THAT THE CITY IS PERMITTING EV CHARGING STATIONS IN A TIMELY MANNER. 
          RESIDENTIAL PERMITS ARE TYPICALLY ISSUED WITHIN THREE BUSINESS DAYS AND COMMERCIAL
PERMITS WOULD BE WITHIN TEN BUSINESS DAYS. 
          AND THUS WE EXPECT LA VERNE TO BE ABLE TO MEET THESE AB 970 DEADLINES. 
          WE ALSO WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ACTIONS THE CITY OF THE CITY HAS ALREADY TAKEN
REGARDING THE EV INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING CLOSELY WITH SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON TO INSTALL CHARGERS
THROUGH THEIR CHARGE READY PROGRAM, WHICH IS A GREAT WAY TO REDUCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE COST. AND YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH COMMERCIAL PARTNERS TO INSTALL PUBLICLY AVAILABLE
EV CHARGING STATIONS. 
          SOME OF THE BARRIERS THAT WE SAW WITHIN THE CITY ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT ACROSS OTHER
CITIES THIS GUIDANCE ON HOW TO DEVELOP PROJECTS AND SELECT THE PROPER EQUIPMENT FOR THE SITE. FUNDING WILL ALWAYS BE A CONSTRAINT. 
          HOW TO HANDLE ONGOING OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FOR THE CHARGERS AND THEN COORDINATING
WITH THE UTILITY TO UPGRADE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE ALSO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT BY PARTICIPATING IN 15 COMMUNITY
EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SCAG REGION. 
          AND WE ALSO DISTRIBUTED A SURVEY, COLLECTED NEARLY 500 SURVEY RESULTS TO UNDERSTAND
PERCEPTIONS ON THE EV OWNERSHIP AND BARRIERS TO ADOPTION. SOME OF THE COMMON BARRIERS WE FOUND BY TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY WAS A LACK OF
OR NOT OR UNAWARE OF THE PUBLIC CHARGING STATION NETWORK AND VEHICLE RANGE ANXIETY AND COUPLED WITH AN INADEQUATE CHARGING NETWORK. 
          YOU JUST EXASPERATES THAT ISSUE AND THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE ON INCREASING AWARENESS
ON THE BENEFITS OF EVS, BOTH FINANCIALLY AND ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS. 
          BUT THERE ARE SOME ENCOURAGING SIGNS. 
          THE COMMUNITIES ARE ARE EAGER TO LEARN MORE, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT EV OWNERSHIP WILL
INCREASE AND THAT IT IS THE FUTURE OF OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, AND WE NEED A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. 
          TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE SURVEY RESULTS. 
          SOME OF THE TOP BARRIERS TO EV OWNERSHIP ARE, UNSURPRISINGLY HIGH PURCHASE COST, LIMITED
RANGE, AND THEN A LACK OF CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE IN COMMON AREAS LIKE THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE, PUBLIC PARKING LOTS AND OTHER COMMERCIAL AREAS. 
          SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS IS THAT WE CAN LOOK TO INCREASE THE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE IN SOME OF THESE HARDER TO REACH AREAS LIKE MULTI-UNIT DWELLINGS OR HIGHLY TRAFFICKED PUBLIC SITES THAT'LL HELP INCREASE THAT MAY HELP INCREASE CONSUMER CONFIDENCE
IN SPURRING EV ADOPTION. 
          AS PART OF THE SURVEY, WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND SPECIFIC BARRIERS TO OWNERS OF COMMERCIAL
PROPERTIES IN MULTI-UNIT DWELLINGS AND COST AGAIN, UNSURPRISINGLY, AS THE MAJOR BARRIER TO INSTALLING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          BUT WE ALSO FOUND THAT INCENTIVES COVERING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 25 TO 50% OF THE COST MAY BE
ENOUGH TO SPUR ADOPTION FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          PERMITTING, WHILE NOT THE LARGEST BARRIER TO ADOPTION, MAY STILL HAVE SOME ROOM TO
IMPROVE, WHICH IS AN AREA THAT THE CITY CAN DIRECTLY. 
          TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THE TOOLS GENERATED FROM THE STUDY. 
          AS I MENTIONED, SCAG IS UPDATING THEIR ATLAS SUITABILITY ANALYSIS RESULTS FROM THIS
PROJECT. 
          WE'VE CREATED SITE PLAN TEMPLATES THAT CITIES OR OTHER DEVELOPERS CAN USE DURING THE
INITIAL STAGES OF PROJECT DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY INCLUDE DESIGN GUIDES TO HELP DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE AND QUANTITY OF EV INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE DEVELOPED A HOST OF FACTSHEETS BROCHURES AND GUIDANCE THAT REALLY PROVIDE AN EV 101 TO
A VARIETY OF STAKEHOLDERS AND AUDIENCES. 
          WE PROVIDED THE CITY WITH A POLICY ANALYSIS AND PERMITTING BEST PRACTICES AS WELL AS EV
SPECIFIC FUNDING RESOURCES, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY FINALIZING OUR REGIONAL EV 
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INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN, WHICH SHOULD BE AVAILABLE BY THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          I WANT TO LEAVE THE CITY WITH SOME BEST PRACTICES AND SOME RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS. 
          ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE FIND THAT CITIES HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH
INSTALLING INFRASTRUCTURE IS TO REALLY ESTABLISH AND SET GOALS. 
          AND SO EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THE CHARGING STATIONS THAT
MIGHT BE NEEDED IN THE CITY. 
          WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVIEW THAT AND USE THAT TO HELP INFORM SOME TARGETS THAT THE CITY
WANTS TO MEET REGARDING EV INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          CITIES CAN CONTINUE TO PURSUE EV CHARGING STATION PROJECTS ON PROPERTIES THAT YOU OWN AND
THEN LOOK TO ELECTRIFYING THE CITY FLEET AND REALLY BE A LEADER AND SHOW THAT EVS CAN BE VIABLE FOR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. 
          WE RECOGNIZE THAT MOST OF THE EV INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE PRIVATE
SECTOR. 
          SO THE CITY'S ROLE IS REALLY TO HELP ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH POLICY FUNDING AND
COORDINATION. 
          LOOKING AT OTHER POLICIES LIKE REACH CODES AND VOLUNTARY CALGARY MEASURES TO HELP
INCREASE INFRASTRUCTURE AS PART OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS, AND THE CITY CAN CREATE DEDICATED WEB PAGES ON THEIR WEBSITE WITH EV RESOURCES AND CONNECTIONS TO FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE
PRIVATE SECTOR OR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN INSTALLING EV CHARGERS. 
          AND LASTLY, CONTINUING TO REVIEW OUR INTERNAL PERMITTING PROCESS TO MINIMIZE PROCESSING
TIMES, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE LARGER, MORE COMPLEX PROJECTS WILL HELP KEEP PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. AND THE LAST ONE, THE LAST STEPS THAT WE CAN RECOMMEND IS TO OUTREACH THE
PRIVATE SITES THAT WE COMPLETED THE SITE EVALUATIONS FOR TO HELP SPARK PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND THE SUITABILITY ANALYSIS RESULTS, AND THEN TARGET FUTURE OUTREACH
EFFORTS BEYOND THAT. 
          I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING US PRESENT TODAY, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          COUNCIL DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. [INAUDIBLE]? NO WE OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MS. BEAUCHAMP. COME ON UP. 
          [INAUDIBLE] 2516 AMHERST. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH ELECTRIC
VEHICLES THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, CHILD SLAVE LABOR IS ONE OF THEM. 
          THERE ARE MANY COUNTRIES THAT ARE FORCING CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS EIGHT YEARS OLD TO MINE
COBALT AND LITHIUM AS THEY ARE YOUNG AND HAVE THE STRENGTH AND BACKS TO DIG IN THESE MINES. 
          AND IT'S IT'S A DETRIMENTAL SITUATION. 
          AND I THINK IF WE CONTINUE BUILDING AND PURCHASING THESE VEHICLES, THE NEED WILL
CONTINUE. 
          NOT TO MENTION THAT THERE'S NO LONG TERM STUDIES AS TO WHAT LITHIUM BATTERIES DO TO OUR
PLANET. 
          THEY ARE NOT. 
          THERE'S A FACILITY THAT TAKES THEM IN. 
          AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE STYROFOAM TAKES 50 HALF LIVES TO REGENERATE. 
          THEY HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO CALCULATE HOW LONG IT WOULD BE FOR A LITHIUM BATTERY. 
          SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FACTORED INTO THIS DECISION
BEFORE THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. BEAUCHAMP. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYBODY ONLINE? BRING IT UP TO THE DAIS. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM CROSBY JUST BEAT THE HECK OUT. 
          I'LL JUST GOING TO START. MY MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW AT MY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT, WE PUT IN
A CHARGER WHERE WE ALLOW OUR EMPLOYEES TO CHARGE. 
          BUT THEN OVERNIGHT WE ALLOW RESIDENTS COME, BUT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT AND IT HELPS CURB
THE COST. 
          IF IF EVENTUALLY WE EVER DO THINGS IN THE CITY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE SAID $17,000 PER
SPOT THAT WE ARE GETTING MONEY BACK TO HELP PAY OFF THOSE COSTS AS WELL. 
          THAT'S NOT JUST COMING OUT OF OUR CITY FUNDS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING A
REASONABLE PRICE SO. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. JOHNSON. 
          WELL, I GREW UP PUMPING GAS AND IN THE [INAUDIBLE] IT WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH PUMPING GAS,
WASHING WINDOWS AT LA VERNE TEXACO. IT DIDN'T TAKE VERY LONG TO FILL UP A TANK OF GAS. 
          IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WITH ELECTRICITY THAT CARS GOT TO SIT THERE FOR, DEPENDING ON
THE SPEED OF THE CHARGER, AT LEAST AN HOUR TO RECHARGE IT. THAT'S A BIG WASTE OF REAL ESTATE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. 
          JUST HAVING A CAR SIT THERE. 
          SO IT THAT I THINK REALLY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
CHARGING STATIONS AND 
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THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR EVERY INCH OF SPACE WE CAN FIND FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. 
          HOW MANY CHARGERS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE DOWNTOWN THAT ARE JUST TAKING UP EXTRA SPACE? THAT'S MY CONCERN. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. 
          COUNCILMEMBER KASH. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO KNOW, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE? IS THERE A CERTAIN REGULATORY AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO BE COMPLIANT BY
ANY, ANY RULE? AND WHAT IS THE CITY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT? SOME OF THESE COMPANIES, I'M SURE, ARE WILLING TO GET INTO A PARTNERSHIP WITH US TO TO
OFFSET SOME OF THOSE COSTS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING CITY DOLLARS TO PAY FOR EV. 
          AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE PLACE FOR IT TO PUT IT IN. 
          IT SHOULD BE THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          YEAH, IT SHOULD BE. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT'S I DON'T THINK SHOULD COME OUT OF THE CITY'S BUDGET IN
ORDER TO PAY FOR THAT OR RATHER PAY FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO BEAUTIFY OUR COMMUNITY THAN TO [INAUDIBLE] A BUNCH OF AREAS. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE THE AREAS. 
          IF YOU HAVE EXISTING SPOTS THAT WE CAN USE, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THAT. 
          BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH AGAIN. 
          I KNOW YOU GOT ME. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CASH. 
          COUNCILMEMBER LAU. 
          I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPENER FOR DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE I THINK THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
BROUGHT UP ARE THINGS THAT WE ALL WANT TO MAKE SURE ARE APPROPRIATE. 
          I THINK THAT AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TO MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT
OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF. 
          I AM HOPEFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE IDENTIFY LOCATIONS FOR THESE CHARGING STATIONS THAT
ARE ACTUALLY PROMOTES BUSINESS SO THAT PEOPLE IF YOU'VE GOT TO BE STUCK SOMEWHERE FOR AN HOUR, I HOPE YOU'RE STUCK OUTSIDE ONE OF OUR BUSINESSES WHERE YOU'RE
GOING TO GO SPEND MONEY. 
          SO I THINK IT'S IT'S THE INTERPLAY OF BOTH, RIGHT? IS REALLY JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ARE THE BEST LOCATIONS, HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE
PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND REALLY JUST TAKING THESE INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          SO I THINK THESE ARE GOOD THIS IS GENERATING GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC, AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT
IT, WHAT MATTERS TO YOU AND MAKING YOUR OPINIONS HEARD SO THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN TAKE THOSE ISSUES INTO ACCOUNT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR THE CITY. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER LAU. 
          WELL, I THINK THAT EV CHARGING STATIONS ARE AWESOME AND I THINK THAT OUR CITY IS WAY
BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL AS FAR AS WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD MULTIPLES. 
          YOU GO ON TO OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU HAVE TESLA CHARGERS THAT ARE BANKS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROBIN CARTER AND MY WIFE HAS ONE AND THE FAST CHARGERS ARE ABOUT IF YOU GO
A SUPER FAST, IT'S $17, WHICH IS THE CHARGING ASPECT OF IT. 
          AND LIKE COUNCILMAN LAU SAID, GO HAVE SOME FOOD, GO SHOP. 
          IT'S REALLY QUICK AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE DOWN LOW BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU'LL GET DOWN
LOW. 
          AND ESPECIALLY THE TESLA, YOU GET DOWN UNDER 20 MILES, YOU BETTER JUST HIGHTAIL IT TO
WHEREVER THE CLOSEST ONE IS. 
          BUT THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS WHERE THEY GO FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BLANK SPACE
AND A LOT OF OUR PARKING LOTS THAT ARE ON THE FAR OUTSKIRTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GOING TO PARK AND YOU'RE GOING TO WALK UP TO YOUR RESTAURANTS. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THEM. 
          THE PROBLEM WITH THE CHARGING SYSTEMS RIGHT NOW IS YOU'VE GOT SO MANY DIFFERENT CHARGING
VEHICLES NOW THAT REQUIRE DIFFERENT CONNECTIONS. 
          SO THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE. 
          AND I KNOW TESLA IS GOING TO MAKE SUPPOSEDLY A UNIVERSAL. 
          SO BUT I DO ALSO THINK IT'S THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AS MY THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE
STATED. 
          I THINK THE PRIVATE SECTOR, ALTHOUGH FOR OUR VEHICLES THAT WE DO START PURCHASING THROUGH
OUR CITY, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY WISE IDEA, YOU KNOW, ZERO CARBON EMISSIONS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE CHARGING STATIONS AT OUR LOCAL, WHETHER IT BE CITY HALL, WHETHER HE
DOWN AT THE YARD OR EVEN THROUGH ULV AND SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES THAT WE WOULD IS GOING TO BE TOUGH BECAUSE AS COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON SAID, IT'S VERY TIGHT SPACE, BUT WE HAVE A
LOT OF OPEN SPACE IN THESE PARKING LOTS THAT NEVER GETS USED. 
          YOU'VE GOT MICHAEL'S, BIG LOTS AREA THERE THAT HAVE A TON OF SPACE ON THE SIDES. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE TARGET CENTER ON THE BACK SIDE THAT NO ONE EVER GOES AT LEAST 8 TO 10
SPACES. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE YOU'VE GOT THE VAUGHAN SHOPPING CENTER AND THE SPROUTS SHOPPING CENTER. 
          THERE ARE SPACES THERE THAT NEVER GET USED, WHETHER IT BE ON THE SIDE AND THE BACK OR ON
THE THING. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT ROAD. 
          I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT THE FACT THAT THEY'VE GOT THE CODE, SO YOU'VE GOT
THE CODE TO DO THAT. 
          BUT ALSO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE PARTNERSHIPS. 
          BUT I AM A PROPONENT OF EV BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE AND I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE THERE AT
ONE ONE TIME VERY SOON WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE STILL NEED A GAS FOR THE 500 MILES, BUT THAT'LL BE ADDRESSED LATER ON TOO. 
          BUT AND, MR. MAYOR, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THOSE COMMENTS, BECAUSE THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT STAFF
IS THINKING RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WHEN SOME OF THE ORIGINAL SUGGESTIONS WERE PUT IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2019 OR SO, AND
THE THOUGHT PROCESS HAS CHANGED. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL SPACES. 
          I DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE ALSO, AND YOU DO NEED TO CHARGE FOR MAYBE 20 TO 40 MINUTES,
DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THE CHARGERS GOING. 
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AND YOU DO WANT TO GET OUT, GO TO THE BATHROOM, GET A DRINK, READ A BOOK OR DO SOMETHING
ELSE LIKE THAT. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE SPOTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT VERSUS MOSTLY CITY HALL OR THE
CORPORATE YARD. 
          BUT YOU'RE RIGHT ALSO THAT AS THE CITY PROGRESSES AND ELECTRIFIES ITS FLEET, WE WILL NEED
SOMETHING THERE. 
          WE MAY NOT NEED THE DIRECT CHARGE BECAUSE WE CAN DO OVERNIGHT CHARGING, AND THAT'S A
SLOWER CHARGE. 
          BUT THEN ALSO ON THE ECONOMICS OF IT, MOST CERTAINLY WORKING WITH THE COG AND OTHER FOLKS
TO GET THE GRANTS, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AND WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. 
          AND THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO YOU, GET SOME DIRECTION, BUT ALSO
MOVE QUICKLY SO THAT THERE ARE SOME PARAMETERS OR WHERE YOU PUT CHARGING STATIONS. 
          THEY DON'T WANT ALL OF THEM GROUPED IN ONE PLACE. 
          THEY NEED TO BE SPREAD OUT. 
          AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME HERE IN LA VERNE, MAKE SURE ALONG THE COMMERCIAL
CORRIDORS AND THE COMMERCIAL AREAS, THERE'S ALREADY RULES IN PLACE ABOUT PARKING SO THAT IT DOESN'T IMPEDE YOUR PARKING COUNT. 
          BUT THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE CONSULTANT HAS ANYTHING FURTHER. 
          AS THE CITY AND AS EVERYONE REALLY STARTS TO LOOK AT HOW TO YOU INCREASES INFRASTRUCTURES
TO REALLY BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT, WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS SITE AND WHAT SITES MAKE SENSE AND THEN WHAT FUNDING CAN YOU GO AFTER TO REDUCE THOSE UPFRONT COSTS? THANK YOU, MR. [INAUDIBLE]. AND I DO THINK THAT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SAN GABRIEL
VALLEY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 
          AND THERE'S MONEY OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ASSUMED WITH ELECTRIFICATION
FOR OUR VEHICLES AS FAR AS OUR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES FOR THE CITY. 
          BUT WE ARE ALL MOVING TOWARDS ELECTRIC VEHICLES. 
          YOU KNOW, WE ARE KENT TO KENT TO A TRAILER WITH IT YET. 
          MR. JOHNSON BUT WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT LATER. 
          MR. CROSBY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          JUST ONE MORE REQUEST. 
          WHEN WE HAVE A PRESENTATION LIKE TONIGHT, IF WE CAN HAVE COPIES OF THE POWERPOINT OR AND,
OR IF THERE'S A COUPLE OF COPIES FOR OUR AUDIENCE TO HAVE THAT AS WELL SO THAT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ALL OF US LOOKING OVER THERE. 
          AND THEN I REALLY KNOW IT'S SO HARD TO HEAR THEM THROUGH THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PUT A SPEAKER IN THAT SO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS HARD TO
HEAR, HEAR FROM FROM FROM EVERYONE. 
          SO IF THERE'S I KNOW YOU HAVE THE MICROPHONE THERE, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN PLUG
A SPEAKER, I HAVE REALIZED WE HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGICAL ISSUES. 
          SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A MAJOR ISSUE. 
          YEAH, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. 
          WE HAD SOME AGAIN, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          YEAH, WE HAD SOMEBODY OH, WE HAD SOMEBODY IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO TO GIVE US AN ASSESSMENT
AND WE'RE GOING OVER THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT PEG FUNDS AND SOME OTHER STUFF TO UPGRADE THE FACILITIES AND MAKE SURE
THAT WE DON'T HAVE THESE BEND THE MICROPHONE CLOSER TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION PROVIDED. 
          BUT YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT HANDOUTS AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          WELL, I THINK WE COULD ALSO PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE TOO. 
          BUT I THINK ON THE WEBSITE IT'D BE NICE TO FOR PEOPLE THAT AND I DO WANT ONE MORE COMMENT
AND I DO APPRECIATE MS. BEAUCHAMP COMMENT. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THIS STUFF IS BEING SOURCED FROM. 
          WHEN YOU PURCHASE A VEHICLE, DO YOUR RESEARCH AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THERE'S NOT
PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN FILTH AND DISGUSTING SITUATIONS TO BUILD THESE VEHICLES FOR US TO BUY THEM. 
          AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THAT SLAVE LABOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE
ALWAYS CONSIDERED WHEN YOU'RE PURCHASING [INAUDIBLE]. 
          SO VERY GOOD POINT. 
          MS. ALLISON LINDER, YOU HAVE A COMMENT. 
          AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR INVITING US TO SPEAK. 
          I JUST WANTED TO ECHO TAYLOR'S COMMENT THAT YOU GAVE THE COUNCIL, AS WELL AS MS. BEAUCHAMP, ALL GAVE SOME REALLY INTERESTING INSIGHTS ONTO THIS. 
          IT'S A BRAND NEW TECHNOLOGY. 
          WELL, NOT BRAND NEW, BUT IT'S RELATIVELY NEW. 
          AND WE'RE STILL FIGURING OUT A LOT OF HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK AND HOW YOU KNOW HOW IT WILL
CHANGE CITIES AND CHANGE OUR BEHAVIORS. 
          AND SO I THINK WHAT TAYLOR SAID IS SPOT ON THINKING ABOUT THE SITES THAT MAKE THE MOST
SENSE. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS RAISED A REALLY GOOD POINT THAT,
YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT COMPATIBLE USES WITH THE SITES, YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE PARK, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO DO OTHER THINGS LIKE SHOP OR RUN ERRANDS OR GO
TO THEIR OFFICE WHERE THEY WOULD BE HAVING TO PARK ANYWAY? SO YOU'RE KIND OF MAXIMIZING THE VALUE OF THAT REAL ESTATE. 
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AND YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO. 
          OH, AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION ABOUT REQUIREMENTS FOR INSTALLATION. 
          SO THE TARGET NUMBERS THAT TAYLOR PUT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, THOSE ARE
TARGETS. 
          AND THOSE AREN'T SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED. 
          HOWEVER, THERE ARE THERE ARE FLEET REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE UNDER DEVELOPMENT, FOR INSTANCE,
FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT. 
          SO IF YOU'RE OPERATING YOUR OWN PUBLIC TRANSIT VEHICLES, YOU WILL BE UNDER THOSE
REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND IF WE HAVE IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN BREAK DOWN SOME OF THOSE
DETAILS FOR YOU OFFLINE. 
          BUT JUST FOR CLARITY, THE NUMBERS IN THAT PRESENTATION SPECIFICALLY WERE NOT
REQUIREMENTS. 
          I THINK THE COUNCIL BROUGHT UP VERY ASTUTELY THAT THOSE WOULD BE PROVIDED BOTH BY THE
PUBLIC SECTOR AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          SO IT'S DEFINITELY ABOUT DOING THINGS IN PARTNERSHIP. 
          AND JUST ALL IN ALL, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS. 
          SCAG DID THIS WITH 18 DIFFERENT CITIES AROUND THE REGION. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE DIVERSITY IN THE REGION AND THE ABILITY FOR YOUR
CITY TO TO SHARE ITS INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE WITH US SO WE CAN INFORM HOW THIS WOULD WORK AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL. 
          SO REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          SO, MR. DOMER, YOU'VE GOT DIRECTION THEN. 
          AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS, DO WE NEED TO MAKE ANY MOTION OR ANYTHING OR JUST
A BASIC PRESENTATION? 
          [5. ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING COMMUNITY EVENTS]
AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO. WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DEPARTMENT AND. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT DIRECTION. 
          THANK YOU. WE HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND UPCOMING COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          THIS IS NOT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS IS FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          SO WE HAVE MR. MAY, GEORGE MAY COME ON UP. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF AND RESIDENTS. 
          WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD LINEUP FOR FEBRUARY AND MARCH. 
          ALL THE PROGRAMS AND EVENTS THAT I'LL BE DISCUSSING. 
          THEY HAVE LIMITED ATTENDANCE, SO THEY REQUIRE REGISTRATION. 
          AND YOU CAN DO THAT IN-HOUSE OR YOU CAN GO ONLINE BY GOING VISIT L.A. 
          COUNTY LIBRARY.ORG/EVENTS AND JUST NARROW THE SEARCH BY OUR LIBRARY LA VERNE LIBRARY. 
          SO OUR FIRST PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE THIS WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 8TH AT 6:00. 
          IT'S DANCES FOR AROUND THE WORLD. 
          DANCER TERESA SMITH WILL TAKE YOU ON A CULTURAL DANCE TOUR JOURNEY. 
          SHE'LL BE DISCUSSING DIFFERENT DANCES LIKE THE BALLET, CHARLESTON AND MORE. 
          AND THIS IS FOR AGES 5 THROUGH 12 WITH PARENT OR CAREGIVER. 
          THEN THE NEXT DAY WE ARE HAVING A PROGRAM GEARED FOR TARGETING TEENS. 
          IT'S CALLED DRAW A SELF PORTRAIT. 
          IT'S BEING DONE IN CELEBRATION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN AND BLACK HISTORY MONTH. 
          ATTENDEES WILL BE LEARNING TO DRAW PORCH OR SELF PORTRAITS IN THE STYLE OF ARTIST
JEAN-MICHEL BASQUIAT. 
          YOU WILL LEARN ABOUT HIS LIFE AND HIS WORKS, AND ALSO YOU WILL BE INTRODUCED TO OTHER
AFRICAN INFLUENTIAL AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARTISTS. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS FOR AGES, FOR AGES 13 THROUGH 17, FEBRUARY 9TH. 
          YES. SO FEBRUARY 8TH FOR THE DANCERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD AND FEBRUARY 9TH DRAW A SELF
PORTRAIT. 
          NEXT PROGRAM IS TITLED MEET THE ARTIST ALMA THOMAS. 
          THIS AGAIN IS DONE IN CELEBRATION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND BLACK HISTORY MONTH. 
          WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSS HER ALMA THOMAS'S WORK, HER ART, AND ALSO YOU'LL BE GIVEN AN
OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A PIECE OF A PIECE OF ART BASED ON HER PAINTINGS. 
          AND THIS IS DESIGNED FOR AGES 6 THROUGH 12. 
          THAT IS GOING TO BE WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15TH AT 6:00. 
          ALSO, WE ARE RESUMING OUR SMARTY PANTS STORYTIME SESSIONS. 
          THOSE ARE HELD EVERY FRIDAY AT FOUR CONSECUTIVE FRIDAYS. 
          AND THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR AGES 2 TO 5 WITH PARENT OR CAREGIVER. 
          AND THE DATES FOR THOSE, WE ARE STARTING LATE FEBRUARY. 
          SO FEBRUARY 24TH, MARCH 3RD, MARCH 10TH, MARCH 17TH. 
          AND IT'S FRIDAYS FROM 11:30 TO 12. 
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LASTLY, WE HAVE INSTALLED ADDITIONAL WI FI ROUTERS ON OUR EXTERIOR OF OUR BUILDING, SO
YOU WILL GET GOOD RECEPTION IN THE PARKING LOT SO YOU CAN SIT IN YOUR CAR. DO YOU HAVE STARBUCKS? NO, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET. 
          YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY HAD PEOPLE, KIDS AND ADULTS, YOU KNOW, SITTING ON THE CURB, SITTING
IN THEIR CARS THERE ON THEIR LAPTOPS, SMARTPHONES. 
          SO AND APPARENTLY THE ROUTERS HAVE IMPROVED RECEPTION ALSO WI FI RECEPTION IN THE
BUILDING. 
          SO IT'S BEEN A PLUS. 
          SO THANK YOU. LOS ANGELES COUNTY. 
          YES. THAT'S NICE. 
          SO, AGAIN, ALL THESE PROGRAMS ARE LIMITED ATTENDANCE. 
          THEY REQUIRE REGISTRATION SO YOU CAN GO INSIDE THE LIBRARY OR ONLINE TO VISIT L.A. 
          COUNTY LIBRARY.ORG/EVENTS. 
          AND AGAIN, THERE IT IS, SEARCHED BY LA VERNE LIBRARY. 
          SO PLEASE COME ON OUT AND SUPPORT US. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAY. 
          DO JARED, DO WE HAVE CAN WE PUBLISH THAT ON THE WEBSITE? WHY DON'T WE PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE AND MAYBE A LIBRARY CORNER? JUST WHAT'S GOING ON? WE DON'T WANT TO EVER LOSE OUR LIBRARY BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN ASSET
FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY POST THAT IF WE COULD AND HELP MR. MAY GET HIS INFORMATION OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT'S THE WI-FI ADDRESS? [LAUGHTER] MR. MR. MAYOR, WE'VE ALSO STARTED ADDING THE LIBRARY INFORMATION TO THE CITY MANAGER'S BRIEFING
THAT GOES OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S GREAT. 
          ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? MR. DOMER, WE HAVE BLACK HISTORY MONTH. 
          WE PROBABLY SHOULD ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA IF WE COULD. 
          HOW CAN WE DO THAT TOO. 
          AND THEN MAYBE GET A PROCLAMATION LATER? WHAT'S. WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR THAT? MR. MAYOR, I THINK THERE WAS NOT NOT AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WANTED TO AGENDIZE THIS. 
          SO THIS REQUEST AROSE AFTER THE POSTING OF THE AGENDA. 
          IF THE COUNCIL IS PREPARED TO MOVE TO BRING IT ON TO THE AGENDA, IT WOULD REQUIRE A 4/5
VOTE OF THE COUNCIL TO DO THAT. 
          AND WE COULD BRING IT ON. 
          YOU COULD TALK ABOUT THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN WE COULD ISSUE THE PROCLAMATION AFTER THE
FACT. 
          COUNCIL. OR DO YOU WANT TO? WE JUST NEED A MOTION. 
          MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROCLAMATION FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS FOR THE MONTH OF
FEBRUARY. 
          SECOND. 
          ADD IT TO THE AGENDA. 
          [INAUDIBLE] VOTE, PLEASE. [INAUDIBLE] THESE SPEAKERS ARE GOING. 
          YES. NOW, MR. MAYOR, THAT WAS THE MOTION TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO IF THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE A PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH. 
          MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE PROCLAMATION? I'LL MOVE. [INAUDIBLE]. 
          YOU'RE VERY SLOW ON THOSE BUTTONS. 
          [6. CONSENT CALENDAR]
THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED 5-0. 
          AND SO WE WILL GET THAT TOGETHER. 
          THANK YOU. WE HAVE A CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SOME ITEMS TO BE PULLED. 
          ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MS. BEAUCHAMP PULLED ITEM NUMBER 7 AND 6F TO 6. 
          F. F 6. 
          THIS ONE. YEAH WE'LL WE'LL GO AHEAD AND AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS NUMBER 7, ITEM 7. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? NO, I'M SORRY. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. SORRY. 
          WE'LL GET YOU LATER SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND LET'S LET'S WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PASS
EVERYTHING ELSE ON CONSENT, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT ITEM. 
          SO ANY. HE PULLED 6F. 
          YOU WANT TO PULL ONE, MR. JOHNSON?  SIX F ONE. 
          YES. SO WITH THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ARE ON THE OTHER ITEMS ON CONSENT. 
          WITH THAT, LET'S MAKE A MOTION. 
          CAN I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 
          EXCEPT 6F 1 AND 6F 2. 
          SECOND. SECOND. 
          VOTE, PLEASE. THAT WAS APPROVED 5-0. 
          [00:40:10]
SO WE'LL TAKE THESE IN ORDER. 
          6F1 RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-06. 
          THAT'S ON PAGE 4 OF OUR AGENDA. 
          THAT'S ON PAGE 4 OF OUR AGENDA GOING THROUGH THE LIST OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN OUR BOOK. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF CITY OWNED PARCELS THAT THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE CLEARING FOR US. 
          THERE'S ONE PARCEL THAT'S MISSING, AND THAT'S THE WILDERNESS PARK. 
          AND DUE TO THE FIRE HAZARD THERE, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN TALK TO THE COUNTY ABOUT
POSSIBLY [INAUDIBLE] THOSE WEEDS? THAT'S MY QUESTION TO STAFF. 
          FOR THAT, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP FIRE CHIEF CHRIS NIGG. 
          GOOD EVENING, CHIEF NIGG. 
          EVENING COUNCIL, MAYOR. 
          SORT OF BETTER CLARIFY WHAT THE PROCESSES THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS. 
          THIS WAS A PROCESS THAT'S PUT IN PLACE MANY YEARS AGO, DECADES AGO, I BELIEVE, BACK IN THE
80S, AND IT WAS ULTIMATELY DONE SO BECAUSE OF LACK OF RESOURCES WITHIN THE CITY TO DEAL WITH WEED ABATEMENT. 
          AND WHEN I SAY WEED ABATEMENT, A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT TO BE. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? [INAUDIBLE] A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THAT WEED ABATEMENT
PROCESS IS SYNONYMOUS WITH THE FIRE HAZARD. 
          IF YOU READ WHAT'S HOW HOW IT'S WORDED IN THE COUNTY WEIGHTS AND MEASURES DOCUMENTATION,
IT'S REALLY TO TO DEAL WITH NUISANCE CODE ENFORCEMENT TYPE ISSUES. 
          ULTIMATELY, WHEN THIS STUFF DRIES OUT, IT DOES BECOME A FIRE HAZARD. 
          SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO FIRE HAZARDS. 
          IT'S JUST UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY THAT NEED TO BE CLEARED OF THESE
NUISANCE WEEDS THAT ARE OVERGROWN, ETC.. 
          THE COUNTY WAS BROUGHT IN TO DO IT BECAUSE THE CITY AND ULTIMATELY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT
DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO CLEAR THESE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES. 
          AND THAT'S HOW IT'S SEPARATED OUT THE COUNTIES TASKED WITH BY CONTRACT, BY CLEARING OUT
UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES AND THEN US VIA MY FIRE MARSHAL, ONCE IT BECOMES A PUBLIC HAZARD, WILL THEN CLEAR DEVELOPED PROPERTIES THAT HAVE STRUCTURES ON THEM AND ARE BEING USED FOR
SOMETHING. 
          SO THE CITY'S PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO RIGHT NOW, I COULDN'T SPEAK TO RIGHT NOW. 
          WHY IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST. 
          IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO AND ADD TO THE LIST IF WE NEED TO. 
          BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S CONSIDERED A DEVELOPED PROPERTY TO FALL UNDER OUR PURVIEW. 
          IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO INCLUDE THAT, IT IS AN UNDEVELOPED PART. 
          SO AND IT IS DEFINITELY A FIRE HAZARD IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          OKAY. SO IT IS A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS AS FAR AS THAT GOES. 
          AND I THINK IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN GET THAT INCLUDED THROUGH THE COUNTY, I WOULD SURE
APPRECIATE IT. 
          PLEASE, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ADDRESSES YOU WANT ME TO LOOK INTO AS WELL. 
          PRIOR TO THE SECOND READING OF THIS, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          AND THAT IT WOULD BE THAT ENTIRE WILDERNESS PARK AREA. 
          SURE. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY PROMISES STANDING HERE RIGHT NOW. 
          I NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO SEE. 
          I APPRECIATE THEIR TAKE ON IT IS. 
          THANKS, CHIEF. BUT ALSO WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE DO OUR FIRE MARSHALS UP THERE ALL
THE TIME, ALONG WITH BATTALION CHIEF, YOUR BATTALION CHIEF ALSO THAT HE GOES UP WITH HIM. I THINK HE'S BEEN UP THERE BEFORE. 
          BUT WE DO DO OUR GOATS THAT GO UP AND CLEAR THE THE BRUSH AND VEGETATION. 
          AND I KNOW SOMETIMES THE RESIDENTS AND I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I LIVE UP THERE TOO, IS THE
FACT THAT SOMETIMES THERE'S A LOT OF DEAD STUFF UP THERE THAT THAT THEY DON'T CLEAR OUT. 
          IT'S DEAD AND IT GOES ORGANIC. 
          BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT IT'S IT'S IT COULD BE A SERIOUS ISSUE. 
          WE HAVE PEOPLE LOSING THEIR HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE OVER THE THE FIRE HAZARD AREA UP THERE. 
          SO THAT'S ANOTHER VERY CONTENTIOUS TOPIC RIGHT NOW THAT ACTUALLY IS COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR
HANDS. 
          I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE THERE'S A 60 DAY DELAY ON THE FORMALIZATION OF THE THE LATEST
UPDATE TO THE FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE MAPS ISSUED BY CAL FIRE FOR THAT EXACT REASON. 
          LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, FIRE DEPARTMENTS DIDN'T HAVE ANY SAY IN ANY OF THAT. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE STATE IS JUST HANDING THESE DESIGNATIONS DOWN, WHICH IS IN FACT
IMPACTING PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO GET INSURANCE. 
          I CAN TELL YOU AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT WE CAN DO THAT
WOULD ULTIMATELY PROVIDE FOR SOMEBODY TO GET INSURANCE THAT AN INSURANCE COMPANY ULTIMATELY DETERMINED YOU CAN'T GET INSURANCE. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DECIDED AT A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL BASED OFF OF THE STATE
DESIGNATIONS. 
          THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING FORWARD, TOO, IS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CLEARING A
PROPERTY, ONE THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, TOO, IS THAT IT'S AN EXCEPTIONALLY DIFFICULT AND RESOURCE HEAVY TASK TO CLEAR A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON
THAT WE CONTRACTED WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BECAUSE THEY COME IN WITH ALL THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND THEY THEY PUT IT'S ON THE PROPERTY TAX BILLS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO
COLLECT THAT LATER ON. 
          [00:45:05]
SO IF THERE'S BIG PROPERTIES LIKE THAT, IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO MAKE SURE IT'S
ON THAT LIST TOO. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT, MAKE SURE WE GO GET THOSE ON THE LIST THAT MY NEIGHBOR
ACROSS THE STREET JUST TOLD ME THAT JUST THIS LAST MONTH THEY GOT CANCELED. 
          THEY'RE LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET AND I'M IN A HIGH FIRE ZONE. 
          A PERSON CAME FROM THAT CAME TO OUR MEETING AND A MONTH AGO AND DISCUSSED THAT, THAT
THERE'S A RECOURSE FOR RESIDENTS. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO TO REIGNITE THAT AND LET'S GET THAT OUT TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE
REGARDING THAT, THEY JUST CAN'T CANCEL YOU. 
          THERE HAS TO BE RECOURSE AND THERE ISN'T. 
          BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING INTO THAT BECAUSE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW WE HAVE
THE GOATS AND STUFF, BUT I THINK BECAUSE OF THE SEVERITY UP THERE AND MY GOODNESS, COME IN ANOTHER FEW MONTHS WHEN IT STARTS GETTING WARM AGAIN AND WE START DRYING OUT, THE
VEGETATION UP, THERE IS GOING TO BE JUST A TINDERBOX. 
          AND THAT GOES ACROSS ALL OF OUR FOOTHILL COMMUNITIES. 
          SO AND WE'RE CERTAINLY ARE WE'VE JUST IMPLEMENTED A NEW WILDLAND INSPECTION PROGRAM. 
          SO OUR STATION [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S UP THERE AND [INAUDIBLE] TIME THAT THEY'RE NOT RUNNING
CALLS. 
          THEY THEY HAVE PARCELS THAT THEY GO TO TO INSPECT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S GOT
THEIR WITH A NICE NEW RIG. 
          LIKE THE TYPE THREE. 
          YEAH. OH. JUST GOT BACK FROM ALL THE THUNDERSTORMS AND RAINSTORMS SO IT GOT NICE AND
MUDDY FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          YEAH. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO HELP OUR PARTNERS TO THE NORTH AT SANTA BARBARA COUNTY AND
MONTECITO AND THEY WERE VERY THANKFUL. 
          MR. JOHNSON, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN GET THAT PROPERTY [INAUDIBLE] AND THE WEEDS
KNOCKED OFF, THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTIONAL. 
          WHICH I'VE DONE, ABSOLUTELY DO WHAT I CAN TO GET IT ADDED ON THERE. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ADDRESSES OR LOCATIONS YOU GUYS WANT ME TO LOOK INTO, PLEASE
EMAIL THEM TO ME. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF NIGG. APPRECIATE IT. 
          MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CHIEF NIGG AND I AND THE FIRE MARSHAL AND A COUPLE OF
OTHERS MET ON THIS ISSUE LAST WEEK. 
          I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST BECAUSE NEW HERE TRYING TO GET USE OF THE PROCESS. 
          IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'M USED TO BEFORE. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          I ALSO DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT AT FIRST I SAW SOME OF OUR PROPERTIES ON THERE. 
          BUT WHAT CHIEF NIGG WAS SAYING IS THAT WITH THE COUNTY DOING IT, WE CONTRACT WITH THEM. 
          IT IS THE BEST PRICE AROUND TO DO IT. 
          AND SO THAT'S SOME OF THE REASON WHY OUR CITY PROPERTIES ARE ON THERE. 
          IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NEGLECTING TO DO IT, BUT WE WILL LOOK AT THE PARKLAND, WE WILL LOOK AT
SOME OTHER ISSUES AND THE FIRE INSURANCE AND MAKE SURE WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT IN THE CITY MANAGER NEWSLETTER AND THEN ALSO JUST BRING IT HERE NEXT TIME. 
          SO AND FOR CONTEXT, THIS RENEWS EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT AGREEMENT IS IN PLACE TILL 26 WITH THE COUNTY. 
          MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THE COUNTY LOOK AT THE TRAILHEADS OF ALL OUR FLOOD CONTROLS TO FOR AN
OVERGROWN THAT'S GOING TO GET REALLY DIRTY AND DRY AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A FIRE HAZARD ALONG THE SIDE OF OUR SOME OF OUR BUILDINGS IN LA VERNE. 
          WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WASHES IN LA VERNE THAT I'VE BEEN WATCHING CLOSELY. 
          AND THAT'S OUR TRAILHEADS FOR A LOT OF OUR CYCLISTS. 
          AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PROBABLY LOOK INTO THAT TOO. 
          I KNOW I MENTIONED MR. [INAUDIBLE] AND I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN VERY BUSY, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YEAH,
AND SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE FLOOD CONTROL PROPERTY. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT AND UPDATE OUR GIS MAPS SO WE KNOW WHAT IS WHAT. 
          YEAH, THERE'S ALL THAT COMES THROUGH EVERY SHOPPING CENTER IN THIS TOWN AND THE
TRAILHEADS ARE GETTING, YOU KNOW. 
          BUT I THINK THAT IS FLOOD CONTROL. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO. 
          IF NOT, WE BACK CHARGE THEM AND CLEAN IT UP OURSELVES. 
          AND IF THEY CAN'T DO IT AND THEY APPROVE US TO DO THAT. 
          BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT AND LOOK INTO IT. 
          AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT COMMUNITIES CAN DO HOAS OR WHATEVER IN REGARDS TO
FIRE SAFE COMMUNITIES THAT ALLOWS FOR A DISCOUNT FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES ONCE THEY QUALIFY FOR THOSE FIRE SAFE THROUGH INSURANCE MEANS,
RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH, THEIR INSURANCE CAN BE REDUCED. 
          IT'S A SET OF SAFETY STANDARDS THAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS CAN COMPLY WITH. 
          WORK UP A PLAN BOTH WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE ISO AND GET A DISCOUNT ON THE HIGH
RISK AND MAYBE KEEP YOUR INSURANCE, BASICALLY. 
          YES. THANK YOU, CHIEF NIGG. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          HOW'S THE BABY? SLEEPING ALL NIGHT THAT IS GOOD. 
          WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY VOTE THEM JUST TOGETHER. 
          OR WHAT SHOULD WE VOTE ON? JUST THIS ONE OR JUST DO BOTH? VOTE ON THIS ONE AND THEN WE'LL DO THE NEXT ONE WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT F1? THAT WAS APPROVED 5-0. 
          THANK YOU. WE MOVE TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-07. 
          RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LA VERNE. 
          COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES, STATE OF CALIFORNIA. 
          AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF PASADENA, THE LA VERNE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO
PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTAL LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES FOR A TERM OF THREE YEARS RELATING TO A 
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MAJOR EVENTS AT THE ROSE BOWL. 
          MS. BEAUCHAMP, YOU PULLED THIS ITEM. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON IT? THE REASON I REQUESTED THIS ITEM BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS IN THE AGENDA
PACKET IT DISCUSSES THE REASONING FOR RE SIGNING THE AGREEMENT AND THEN IT GIVES A COPY OF THE CONTRACT. 
          AND UNDER THE SECTION FISCAL IMPACT, IT SAYS THAT UNDER THIS AGREEMENT THE CITY OF
PASADENA WILL REIMBURSE ALL SALARIES, WAGES OR OTHER COMPENSATION FOR SERVICES PERFORMED. 
          DOT, DOT, DOT. 
          BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE OVERTIME FOR THE OFFICERS THAT WILL HAVE TO REMAIN WITHIN
THE CITY OF LA VERNE WHILE THE OTHER OFFICERS ARE PERFORMING SERVICES FOR THEM IN THE CITY OF PASADENA. 
          IT WAS NOT LONG AGO THAT CHIEF FLORES STOOD AT THIS PODIUM AND DISCUSSED THE STAFF
SHORTAGES AND HAVE EVEN FURTHER BEEN SHORTAGE BECAUSE OF THE HOST PROGRAM. NOW THE HOST PROGRAM IS BEING PAID BY FEDERAL DOLLARS, BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
THAT MONEY RUNS OUT? THAT OVERTIME IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE COVERED BY THE BUDGET OF THE CITY. 
          SO IT'S A DOUBLE WHAMMY. 
          AND JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE, ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA, THIS IS THE THIRD EXTENSION OF THIS
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PASADENA, AND THE CITY OF LA VERNE. 
          JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE PRIOR DOES NOT WARRANT IT FOR ITS CURRENT. 
          THE NUMBERS OF CRIMES AND HOMELESSNESS IN THIS CITY HAS EXPONENTIALLY GROWN, AND I DON'T
THINK THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION TO ALLOW THESE OFFICERS TO TO LEAVE OUR CITY, LEAVING OUR RESIDENTS SACRIFICING SAFETY AND SECURITY. 
          AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL REALLY NEEDS TO TO LOOK INTO A LITTLE BIT
MORE DETAIL. 
          THERE IS NO COST ANALYSIS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET, SO THERE'S NOTHING TO COMPARE
THIS $74,009.99 NUMBER THAT PASADENA IS WILLING TO PAY. COUNCILMEMBER KASH IS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS. 
          AT WHAT POINT DO WE PUT THEM FIRST? IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO HELP EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT NOT HELP OURSELVES. 
          WELL, CITY LA VERNE HAS A CHANCE TO DO THAT NOW. 
          CITY OF PASADENA HAS 135,000 RESIDENTS. 
          THAT'S MORE THAN TRIPLE THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          SO AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF ASSEMBLY MEMBER CHRIS HOLDEN'S DISTRICT. 
          HE COULD EASILY ADVOCATE FOR CITY OF CLAREMONT TO HAVE THEIR OFFICERS GO AND TAKE CARE OF
IT. 
          THEY COULD ADVOCATE ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I KNOW L.A. 
          ALREADY PARTICIPATES IN IT. 
          SO THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES FOR THEM TO EXPLORE TO MAKE UP FOR THOSE OFFICERS THAT THEY
NEED FOR SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS ROSE BOWL, ROSE PARADE CONCERTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT I THINK THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY WITH THE INCREASE OF
PHONE CALLS OF HOMELESSNESS ISSUES, CRIMES. I HAD TO INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS ON MY AT MY HOUSE ON AMHERST, AND I'VE ALREADY
HAD THREE INCIDENCES RECORDED AND LUCKILY POLICE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND VERY QUICKLY. 
          BUT IF THEY'RE OUT DOING SOMETHING ELSE AND NOW WE GOT OVERTIME AND IT'S IT'S LIKE ROBBING
FROM PETER TO PAY PAUL. 
          AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET LEFT SHORT AND THEN IT WILL BE A LIABILITY ON THE
CITY. 
          AND NOBODY WANTS TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD. 
          WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IT TOO MANY TIMES. 
          SO I REALLY IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE LOOK AT THIS A LOT MORE CLOSELY. 
          I KNOW IS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND THE STAFF DOES THE MAJORITY OF THE HEAVY LIFTING
FOR YOU AND YOU JUST AGREE WITH IT. 
          BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, AT LEAST TO ME ANYWAY. 
          AND I REALLY THINK THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE EXTRA TIME, MAYBE TABLE IT TO A FUTURE MEETING TO
TO MAKE YOUR VOTE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. BEAUCHAMP. ANYONE ELSE WAS TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? ANYBODY IN PUBLIC COMMENT? WE'LL CLOSE AND COME UP TO THE DAIS. 
          COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ON THIS ITEM? MR. MAYOR, I CAN ANSWER A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I KNOW. 
          LIEUTENANT CORY LEEPER IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALSO. 
          THERE WILL NOT BE A PUBLIC SAFETY DRAIN ON OUR OFFICERS. 
          WE WOULD NOT LET SOMEBODY GO TO ANOTHER AGENCY IF WE WERE GOING TO CREATE A HAZARD FOR
OURSELVES. 
          SO IT IS PURELY AN OVERTIME WHEN WE ARE FULLY STAFFED. 
          WE ARE ONE OF MANY CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY OF PASADENA HAS. 
          SO WE'RE NOT THERE, ONLY ONE BEING THERE. 
          BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS IS PARAMOUNT AND IS FIRST PRIORITY. 
          AND THEY WILL NOT GO IF THEY ARE ON DUTY HERE. 
          THIS IS ONLY THAT OVER TIME. 
          AND SO IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, LIEUTENANT LEEPER CAN PROVIDE
THOSE ANSWERS. 
          I DID HAVE A QUESTION, AND I DISCUSSED IT WITH YOU ALSO, AND I'VE ASKED THIS A NUMBER OF
TIMES. 
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MY CONCERN, TOO, IS, MS. BEAUCHAMP STATED, IS THE FACT IS THESE ARE VERY LOW RATES FOR THESE OFFICERS. 
          AND MY CONCERN WAS THAT AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT I THINK THAT THEY MENTIONED IT
BEFORE, BUT JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT MY CONCERN ABOUT ANY LABOR RATE IS FULLY LOADED, WHICH IS BENEFIT PACKAGES AND EVERYTHING. 
          IF WE'RE IF WE'RE BRINGING THESE PEOPLE OUT TO THESE COMMUNITIES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE BEING PAID FOR OUR SERVICES FOR OUR OFFICERS, WHETHER IT BE WITH YOUR PENSION BENEFITS, WITH YOUR HEALTH BENEFITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING
COMPENSATED FOR THAT. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE, TOO, BUT ALSO THE
BACKFILLING OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY FROM OUR OUR RESIDENTS BEING PROTECTED. 
          IT'S IT'S MORE OF A SERVICE THAT THE COMMUNITY DOES AS WE'RE. 
          I THINK IS PASADENA AREA D ALSO. 
          MR. LEEPER YEAH. LIEUTENANT LEEPER AREA D. 
          THEY'RE NOT AREA D, BUT WE DO HAVE SO GOOD EVENING, LIEUTENANT LEEPER, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. EVENING, CAPTAIN GONZALES. 
          RESIDENCE I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME HERE. 
          MY NAME IS CORY LEEPER. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW ME IN THE CROWD AND FOR THE PAST SEVEN
YEARS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE DONE IS I'VE DONE ALL SPECIAL EVENTS, WHETHER PERMITTED OR
NOT, IN THE CITY OF LA VERNE. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE INITIALLY ATTENDED A TRAINING WAS PUT ON BY PASADENA. 
          PASADENA IS THE PREMIER SPECIAL EVENT SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY. 
          PEOPLE COME FROM OTHER STATES TO COME TO LEARN FROM THEM. 
          AND SO ONCE WE FORMED A RELATIONSHIP THAT IT HAS IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE SAFETY AND THE
LIABILITIES THAT WE HAD IN OUR CITY. 
          SO WE'VE SEEN THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE'VE SEEN IT WITH THE 4TH OF JULY. 
          WE'VE SEEN IT IN THAT SAFETY. 
          SO I WANT TO ADDRESS, MRS. BEAUCHAMP CONCERNS ABOUT OVERTIME. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE PRIORITIZE IS OUR PATROL STAFF. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE ANY REQUEST FOR SERVICES WITH PASADENA. 
          SO THERE'S A REQUEST FOR SERVICES AND WE CAN, BASED ON OUR CURRENT STAFFING NEEDS AND THE
CITY AND OTHER EVENTS, THAT IS ALWAYS THE PRIORITY. 
          THERE ARE EVENTS THAT WE DO TURN DOWN. 
          THEY DO 18 EVENTS A YEAR THAT WERE REQUESTED FOR WE DID 10 EVENTS LAST YEAR. 
          SO WE DO WE DO TURN SOME DOWN. 
          SO ALONG WITH THAT, THERE WAS A MENTION OF THE FISCAL IMPACT, THE RATES THAT WE BILL THAT
ARE SET BY FINANCE. 
          IT'S A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT ALONG WITH BENEFITS. 
          THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THESE NUMBERS ARE TOP STEP FOR THE CATEGORY, BUT THERE ARE ACTUAL
REIMBURSEMENT RATES ONLY. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME EVENTS THAT WE BILLED FOR THAT ARE FOR PROFIT. 
          THOSE ARE HIGHER, SOME ARE NON PROFIT. 
          THOSE ARE EVEN LOWER THAN THESE NUMBERS. 
          BUT THIS WE GET ACTUAL REIMBURSEMENT. 
          SO THERE'S NO COST TO THE CITY. 
          BUT WE DO GET IS THAT WE GET THAT ENHANCED SAFETY AND LIABILITY [INAUDIBLE] PERSPECTIVE. 
          AS FAR AS BACKFILL, THERE'S NO BACKFILL EVER REQUIRED BECAUSE OFFICERS THAT WORK THESE
EVENTS ARE ALWAYS OFFICERS THAT ARE WORKING. 
          THEY'RE NOT WORKING, THEY'RE NOT ON DUTY. 
          YOU ASKED ABOUT AREA D, THEY'RE NOT PART OF AREA D, BUT WE DO AT TIMES DEPLOY OUT OF THE
AREA DEPENDING ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR OWN AREA. 
          HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS AS YOU HAVE. 
          AND MR. MAYOR, JUST TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I TALKED TO CHRISTY LOPEZ TODAY, OUR
FINANCE DIRECTOR, AND ON THE COST, THESE ARE TRULY FOR THE TIME AND A HALF OVER TIME. 
          SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, OVER TIME IS ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR NORMAL YEAR WORK. 
          SO 2,080 HOURS THAT WE WORK. 
          SO THE HOW THEY GET THIS NUMBER IS THEY LOOK AT THE TOP STEP OF THE POLICE OFFICER, THE
TOP STEP OF THE CORPORAL AND THE TOP STEP, I BELIEVE IT'S OF THE SERGEANT. 
          AND THEN FROM THAT IT'S THE TIME AND A HALF PLUS A LITTLE BIT ON TOP OF THAT. 
          SO IT'S NOT THE FULLY BURDENED RATE BECAUSE THE FULLY BURDENED RATE IS TAKEN CARE OF
DURING THE NORMAL COURSE. 
          YEAH. WE HAVE A SIMILAR AGREEMENT WITH POMONA FOR THE LA COUNTY FAIR. 
          SO THAT AGREEMENTS BECAUSE PART OF THE FAIR IS IN LA VERNE, THAT'S NOT THE SAME AGREEMENT. 
          BUT WE HAVE WORKED EVENTS WITH POMONA IN THE PAST WHERE THAT WORKED THE TROPICALIA EVENT
AT THE FAIRPLEX WITH POMONA. 
          SO THIS WAS NOT AN UNUSUAL CONTRACT, ALBEIT IT APPEARS THAT PASADENA IS NOT OUT OF THE
AREA. 
          BUT THEY ACTUALLY ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO US. 
          THEY'RE A FOOTHILL CITY AND THE LENS THAT WE GET FROM THEM ENHANCES. 
          IT REALLY ENHANCES OUR SAFETY. 
          AND THE WAY WE PLAN HERE IN THE CITY IS IMPACTING OUR CURRENT PROCEDURES THE WAY WE'RE
DEVELOPING OUR OUR PROGRAMS NOW, ALONG WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND ERIC SCHERER. 
          I JUST APPRECIATE OUR CROSS-TRAINING WHEN WE ARE GOING OUT AND SEEING BEST PRACTICES WITH
OTHER AGENCIES AND WORKING WITH THEM. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TEAMS WITH AREA D AND THEN ALSO WITH OUR IMPACT TEAMS
AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH OTHERS AND WE'RE GETTING BEST PRACTICES, IT BRINGS IT BACK TO OUR
CITY FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF TO DO. 
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I APPRECIATE, THOUGH, MS. BEAUCHAMP, QUESTION ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING EMPLOYEE OFFICERS OFF, BUT
YOU'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTION OF OF THAT THEY'RE NOT ON DUTY. 
          I KNOW IN MY BUSINESS WHEN WHEN PEOPLE THEN CALL IN SICK, I STILL PULL THOSE PEOPLE THAT
ARE ON SPECIAL STUFF TO COME BACK IN TO WORK BECAUSE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS OUR RESIDENTS. NUMBER TWO IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT HELPING OUT THE OTHERS. 
          BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE LA VERNE IS ALWAYS A PRIORITY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
BEING PROPERLY TRAINED TOO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ADDED EXPERIENCE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          AND I CAN'T OVERSTATE THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR OUR NETWORKING IN LA VERNE. 
          WE'RE A SMALL CITY. 
          WE SURVIVE BY NETWORKING. 
          BUT THE MENTION WAS MADE OF HOST AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THE WAY WE
BUILT OUR HOST TEAM WAS THE SAME WAY WE WENT OUT OF NETWORK WITH SANTA MONICA AND PASADENA. BECAUSE OF THOSE MODELS, WE'RE ABLE TO START TO BUILD OUR PROGRAM AS FAST AS WE
DID. 
          WE WENT FROM HAVING NO PROGRAM AND OVERNIGHT BUILDING THAT PROGRAM AND NETWORKED IN THE
THREE CITIES OF THE TRI-CITIES. 
          SO WE'VE SEEN THIS MODEL BEFORE. 
          IT WORKS REALLY WELL. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I WILL ALSO ADD THAT WE DON'T ORDER OFFICERS IN FOR THIS EVENTS. 
          THESE EVENTS ARE VOLUNTEER. 
          WE ALSO PRIORITIZE THE EVENTS BASED ON THE NEED SO WE DON'T WORK THERE NEW YEAR'S EVE,
THE NIGHT SIDE EVENTS OR THE DAYTIME. 
          THOSE ARE PRIORITIES TO US BECAUSE THERE'S A PROPENSITY FOR MORE CALL VOLUME. 
          WE DON'T WORK THE 4TH OF JULY FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. 
          THAT'S A CITY EVENT FOR US. 
          AND SO THERE'S THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT WE DO PRIORITIZE AND SAY NO, AND WE'LL ALWAYS
HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY NO UNDER THE CONTRACT. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          LIEUTENANT LEEPER AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT OUR RELATIONSHIPS AS MAYOR PRO TEM CROSBY
SAID, OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL OF OUR CITIES IS IMPECCABLE AND I THINK IT'S IMPECCABLE FOR THE FACT THEY HAVE SUCH A GREAT DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT WE ALL IT'S THE
RING OF PROTECTION THAT WE GIVE AND ESPECIALLY AREA D, BUT PASADENA IS A GOOD PARTNER. 
          I KNOW THE MAYOR, VICTOR GORDO, HE'S ON THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS WITH ME ALSO. 
          AND THE RELATIONSHIPS WE BUILD MAKE OUR CITIES ALL SAFER. 
          AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I'M VERY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU EXPLAINED IT ALL, BECAUSE SOME OF US DON'T KNOW AND
THE RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW THAT WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO AND PERFORM. 
          AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          DO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL WITH THAT MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-07. SECOND. 
          VOTE, PLEASE. PASSES 5-0. 
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WE MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL CONSIDERS RELATED TO DIRECTLY ELECTED
MAYOR POSITION. 
          THIS WAS BROUGHT ON BY COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. 
          I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR. COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. LET ME LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND HERE. 
          BACK IN 1972, LA VERNE VOTERS WERE ASKED IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO ELECT A MAYOR AND IF THEY
WOULD LIKE TO ELECT A MAYOR FOR TWO YEARS OR FOUR YEARS. 
          BACK IN 1972, A LITTLE OVER 50 YEARS AGO, LA VERNE RESIDENTS VOTED TO HAVE AN ELECTED
MAYOR EVERY TWO YEARS. 
          ABOUT A YEAR AGO, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, THE COUNCIL MADE THE DECISION TO GO TO
DISTRICT VOTING. 
          AND INSTEAD OF GOING WITH FOUR DISTRICTS AND AN ELECTED MAYOR WITHOUT A VOTE OF THE
PEOPLE, THE COUNCIL CHANGED IT TO FIVE DISTRICTS AND NO ELECTED MAYOR. 
          I WANT TO MAKE THAT RIGHT AGAIN AND LET LA VERNE RESIDENTS HAVE THEIR SAY AND PUT IT ON
THE BALLOT. 
          AND I BELIEVE BEFORE WE CAN START DISCUSSING THIS, I NEED TO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
BEFORE WE CAN DISCUSS IT. 
          THAT CORRECT? IF YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD. 
          YES, THEN THEN YES. 
          I MEAN, OTHERWISE, IF THE COUNCIL'S NOT INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING IT OR MOVING WELL, LET'S
SEE IF I GET A SECOND. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A BALLOT MEASURE ON THE NEXT CONSOLIDATED ELECTION INTO
2024 TO RESTORE THE VOTE FOR MAYOR. 
          THE QUESTION BEING SHALL LA VERNE VOTERS ELECT A MAYOR EVERY TWO YEARS? THAT'S MY MOTION. CAN I JUST WEIGH IN REALLY QUICKLY ON THE MOTION? THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. PLEASE, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE MOVE
FORWARD WITH THIS. 
          THERE'S SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO ON THE BALLOT THAT'S CONTAINED IN THE
ELECTIONS CODE. 
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SO BE PREFERABLE TO SPECIFY WHAT AS PER THE ELECTION CODE AND AND WHAT THE TERM IS. 
          YOU WANT A TWO YEAR TERM OR FOUR YEAR TERM? I THINK THE THE LARGER CONCERN THAT WE HAVE, OF COURSE, IS THAT DOING THAT PERHAPS PUTS
US IN CONFLICT WITH THE ELECTIONS CODE AND PROVISIONS REGARDING RE DRAWING OUR LINES BEFORE THE NEXT CENSUS AND
THE RISK OF LITIGATION THAT THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND I REALIZE AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE BALLOT AS WELL, SAYING THAT WE WOULD NOT BE
ABLE TO DO THIS UNTIL LEGALLY ABLE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. AND WHAT WHAT THAT ENTAILS, I CAN'T SAY. 
          BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE A DIRECT VOTE OF THE RESIDENTS. 
          DO WE WANT TO HAVE AN ELECTED MAYOR? AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY CHEAPER. 
          THE LONGER WE WAIT TO PUT THAT QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. 
          SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE THEN, IF THAT WAS THE CASE AND WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, IT
WOULD BE MORE OF AN ADVISORY VOTE WHEN WE DO A RE CENSUS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. IT WOULD BE NOT UNTIL. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? IT WOULD NOT BE AN ADVISORY VOTE. 
          BUT WHAT? IT WOULD BE AN ADVISORY VOTE. 
          BUT JUST WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT BECAUSE UNTIL THE NEXT CENSUS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. WOULD BE TEN YEARS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. SO IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE THAT THE DIRECTLY ELECTED MAYOR WOULD BE
FACTORED INTO THE NEW DISTRICT DRAWING AFTER THE 2030 CENSUS, WHICH WE COULD VOTE ON A. 
          CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          CURRENTLY THE EARLIEST. THAT IS THE EARLIEST RIGHT NOW. 
          YEAH. YEAH, UNDER CURRENTLY UNDER THE ELECTIONS CODE. 
          IT DOES NOT ALLOW US WE DON'T MEET ANY OF THOSE THRESHOLDS FOR DOING ANYTHING EARLIER. 
          SOME OF THOSE INCLUDE IF WE WERE TO ANNEX AREAS THAT WOULD INCREASE OUR RESIDENT BASE BY
MORE THAN 25% OF OUR CURRENT POPULATION. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ANNEX AN AREA THAT WOULD ADD ABOUT 8000 PEOPLE TO OUR RESIDENTS. 
          IS THAT OF THE ENTIRE CITY OR IS THAT OF THE DISTRICT IN QUESTION? THAT'S OF THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          SO YEAH, THAT'S UNDER THE ELECTION CODE. 
          2603 SO. 
          51605A3. MAYOR PRO TEM CROSBY. 
          YEAH. AND MY CONCERN, I KNOW IT SAYS HERE THAT IT WAS VOTE. 
          IT WAS BY A41 VOTE. 
          THE FINAL ORDINANCE WAS BY A 4-1 VOTE. 
          IT WAS A 3-2 VOTE ON HAVING A VOTE BY MAYOR OR NOT. 
          BUT I DIDN'T. 
          I KNOW. NO, NO, NO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SAID THAT IS OUT THERE. 
          BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE PUT A VOTE IN 2024, THE EXPECTATIONS OF OUR RESIDENTS WOULD
BE THAT THE NEXT ELECTION WOULD BE HAVING A MAYOR, OR IF NOT, IF THEY VOTED YES, THEN THE NEXT
ELECTION HAVE THE MAYOR AND THAT WOULD VERY MUCH COMPLICATE WHAT'S THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE, TOO? I'M NOT AGAINST PUTTING THAT UP FOR A VOTE. 
          I KNOW IT WOULD COST QUITE A BIT OF MONEY AND THAT WE PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR THEM AS WELL
THAT FOR THAT. 
          BUT MY MY CONCERN IS THAT HAVING IT CLOSER TO THE CENSUS TIME WHEN IT WOULD THEN, IF IT WAS PASSED, TAKE EFFECT WITHOUT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WISER PIECE TO DO
THAT. 
          I JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DOING IT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THEN EXPECTATIONS, I DON'T WANT TO PUT A PUT ON EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR
RESIDENTS AND CAN'T FULFILL THOSE EXPECTATIONS. AND I WOULD I WOULD ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS AND ADD THAT GIVEN THE PARAMETERS
THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE SECTIONS FOR WHEN REDISTRICTING OR CONSIDERATION CAN BE TAKEN INTO INTO CONSIDERATION THAT IT'S
PREMATURE. 
          AND SO IF WE HAVE A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THESE THINGS CAN BE EVALUATED AND THERE'S NO. 
          AS MR. DELMAR INDICATED, WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE ALL OF A SUDDEN ANNEXING
ENOUGH LAND OR PEOPLE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. 
          AND THE ONLY OTHER TWO CONSIDERATIONS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ORDERING THE COUNCIL TO
REDISTRICT OR SETTLING A LEGAL CLAIM OR AT THE TIME OF THE CENSUS. 
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SO I CONCUR THAT PUTTING THAT ON THE BALLOT AT A COST TODAY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE
WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          I THINK THE OTHER THING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, TOO, IS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY THE
FIVE ON THIS COUNCIL, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE AS WE GET CLOSER TO IT RIGHT IN 2028, THE MOOD OR THE ENVIRONMENT MAY CHANGE, THE PEOPLE'S DESIRES MAY CHANGE AT THAT POINT. 
          SO I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FISCAL IMPACT, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE
IMPACTS RELATED TO PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT. 
          BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S ALSO THE COST OF EDUCATION. 
          I KNOW THAT WE'VE, I THINK, LEARNED A HARD LESSON IN THE SENSE OF WHEN WE DISTRICTED IN
THE FIRST PLACE WHAT TYPE OF EDUCATION WOULD BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
DECISION MAKING? AND I THINK TO RICK'S POINT OR TO MAYOR PRO TEM CROSBY'S POINT, IS THAT TRYING TO EDUCATE
THAT AND THEN REMEMBERING TO HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN AS WE GET CLOSE TO THE 2030 MARK ARE COST THAT ARE BETTER SERVED IN OTHER PLACES AT THIS TIME FOR THIS CITY. 
          WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? LIKE A $2,000 COST HERE TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT? 4000? 10,000? NO, IT'D BE ABOUT 100,000. 
          YEAH. PUT ANYTHING ON THE BALLOT? $200,000. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY CHEAPER. 
          NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO MEAN CHEAPER, BUT IT'S THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. 
          RIGHT. SO. 
          SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A BALLOT MEASURE ON THE NEXT CONSOLIDATED
ELECTION TO RESTORE. 
          LET ME. LET ME. 
          YEAH. QUICK. SO I'M PRETTY MUCH THE ONE THAT REALLY AFFECTED ON THIS ELECTION BECAUSE OF
THAT. 
          AND I VOTED AGAINST IT. I DID NOT BELIEVE IN A FIVE DISTRICT. 
          ALWAYS BELIEVING IN A FOR DISTRICT WITH AN ELECTED MAYOR. 
          MIND YOU, I DON'T MIND THE FOUR YEARS. 
          THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. 
          IT REALLY ISN'T. BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, AS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH AND ESPECIALLY MYSELF,
BEEN THROUGH VERY CONTENTIOUS ELECTIONS, I WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME TEETH IN IT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT REALLY IT'S NOT GOING TO REALLY HAVE ANY EFFECT
UNTIL 2030. 
          I MEAN, 2032 IS TEN YEARS. 
          THAT'S WHEN THE CENSUS IS UP. 
          AND I AGREE WITH MR. JOHNSON. I, I KNOW HE CAMPAIGNED ON IT, BUT I WAS THE DIRECT REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS. 
          I DID NOT LIKE THIS. 
          I THINK THAT OUR DEMOGRAPHER DID A VERY POOR JOB, DIDN'T EXPLAIN IT. 
          I HAD PEOPLE UP TO ELECTION DAY SAYING, YOU'RE NOT ON MY BALLOT. 
          I SAID, WELL, WE HAVE DISTRICTS NOW. 
          I THINK WE DID A VERY POOR JOB. 
          AS COUNCILMEMBER STATED, IT WASN'T DONE WELL. 
          I JUST IT WASN'T IT WASN'T THE DEMOGRAPHER. 
          WHEN THEY FIRST CAME IN, THE FIRST TWO MEETINGS, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. 
          I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE INFORMATION THEY HAD WAS WRONG. 
          AND SO I THINK WE WERE MISREPRESENTED, ALTHOUGH WE VOTED IN. 
          I MEAN, I VOTED AGAINST IT WAS 4 TO 1 FOR THE FINAL FIVE DISTRICT SELECTION. 
          BUT I MEAN, IT'S WORKING FINE FOR US NOW, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY THAT RIGHT NOW FOR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T EVEN TOUCH
FOR ANOTHER 8 TO 10 YEARS. 
          AND THAT'S MY PROBLEM. AND SWERDLOW SAYS, I MAY NOT BE HERE. 
          NONE OF US MAY BE HERE. 
          I MIGHT BE GONE TOMORROW. WELL, IF I KEEP DOING THAT, IF I KEEP DOING CADILLAC
CONVERTERS, I MAY BE GONE TOMORROW. 
          BUT I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. 
          I THINK THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE THE VOTE WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM, ESPECIALLY VOTE FOR
MAYOR. 
          AND I WENT THROUGH A CONTENTIOUS MAYOR MAYORAL RACE AND WON HANDEDLY. 
          AND THEN TO GET IT TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU THE NEXT DAY, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WHAT JUST
HAPPENED THERE? BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T MIND THE FOUR YEARS, BUT I THINK THAT THE THE THE
RESIDENTS WERE NOT REPRESENTED WELL IN THAT I THINK IT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM. 
          SO I'M KIND OF IN A QUANDARY RIGHT HERE. 
          WHAT TO DO? I DON'T WANT TO SPEND RESIDENTS MONEY OVER SOMETHING THAT'S IT'S REALLY NOT
GOING TO DO ANY GOOD AT ALL UNTIL LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE WANT TO LOOK AT REDISTRICTING. AND I DO AGREE IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO GET ANY CHEAPER. 
          IT'S NEVER GOING TO GET CHEAPER. 
          BUT I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCIL LEGAL COUNSEL. 
          WHAT'S THIS GOING TO DO? I MEAN, WHAT DOES IT MAKE US LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS IF WE DO THIS? WE PUT IT ON A BALLOT MEASURE. 
          THIS GIVES RESIDENTS THE VOTE TO SAY HOW THEY WANT TO ELECT A MAYOR. 
          DO THEY WANT THE COUNCIL TO JUST APPOINT IT OR DO RESIDENTS WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO
ELECT THE MAYOR THEMSELVES? AND THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED ONCE IN 1972. 
          AND THIS COUNCIL AT THE TIME CHANGED IT WITHOUT DIRECTION OF THE VOTERS. 
          TO DO THIS, AND I WOULD RISK FOR LOSS. 
          WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK. 
          I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE REALLY IS GOING TO BE IS IT GOING TO CAUSE THE VOTER CONFUSION? 
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WILL THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE VOTING IN 2024 FOR SOMETHING THAT WON'T HAPPEN
EFFECTIVELY UNTIL THE 2032 ELECTION? AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY CHEAPER. 
          BUT MY CONCERN IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SPAN OF TIME THAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE WILL BE IN THE
CITY. 
          MOODS CHANGE, PEOPLE CHANGE. 
          AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS THEN? IF PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T LIKE THAT. 
          LET'S DO IT AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER WASTE OF MONEY THAT I THINK AGAIN, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT TO
COUNCILMEMBER CARAVAGGIO'S POINT, IT'S NOT $2,000. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN INCONSEQUENTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          I LOOK AT IT AS THAT'S SOMEONE'S SALARY FOR A YEAR. 
          DEPENDING ON THE POSITION, IT COULD BE TWO POSITIONS FOR A YEAR. 
          AND SO I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE SAY, LET'S MAKE THIS DECISION TODAY, LET'S CAUSE SOME
CONFUSION AND THEN LET'S INCUR SOME MORE COSTLY. 
          TOP OF THAT. WELL, THERE'S ANOTHER POINT WE'RE NOT THINKING OF HERE. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GROUPS AND A LOT OF CITIES THAT DON'T LIKE THIS. 
          THEY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A ROTATION BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT THE COMMUNITY
LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO, WHICH IS SOCIOECONOMICS, RACE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, TO SPLIT UP A COMMUNITY. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITIES. 
          I KNOW THAT MS.. BEAUCHAMP HAS BEEN TO SANTA MONICA AND THEY'VE BEEN IN A BIG FIGHT OVER
THIS AND SPEND A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS. 
          IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. 
          MY POINT IS, THOUGH, IS THAT IF WE WAIT A LITTLE LONGER AND I UNDERSTAND, COUNCILMEMBER
JOHNSON, THIS IS THIS IS AND I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, I WAS THE DIRECT REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAY CHANGE IN THE NEXT 2 TO 4 YEARS WITH CITIES. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT FIRST TO FIND OUT IF IF THESE CITIES
ARE GOING TO UNRAVEL THEIR DISTRICT VOTING. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A FEW CITIES CLOSE BY US THAT AREN'T HAPPY WITH IT AT ALL, AND THEY'RE
HAVING DISCUSSION WITH ALL OTHER CITIES. 
          SO THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT'S IT'S NOT A HOT BUTTON. 
          IT IS A HOT BUTTON BECAUSE THEY BROKE APART THE CITY VOTING AND HOW THESE DISTRICTS DID. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHATTER ABOUT THIS. 
          AND BUT AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, NO ONE'S GOING TO BREAK IT UP RIGHT NOW. 
          NO ONE'S GOING TO BREAK IT UP. 
          AND UNLESS THEY BRING A BIG LAWSUIT AND SPEND TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO FIGHT THIS. 
          BUT LIKE I SAY, I'M MORE IN TUNE TO SAY, LET'S LOOK AT IT IN 2024 AND SEE IF THERE'S
ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED TO THIS SO FAR. 
          AS FAR AS UNRAVELING CITIES, THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THIS. 
          IT'S REALLY NOT MAKING UP THE SOCIOECONOMIC MAKEUP THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. 
          AND THESE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST. 
          I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S WORKING PRETTY WELL FOR US
RIGHT NOW. 
          MAYBE I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THE NON-ELECTED MAYOR, BUT I SURE DO LIKE THE FACT THAT THOSE
FOUR YEARS ARE GREAT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT. 
          YOU DON'T. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND IT'S BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY DID TAKE THE VOTE AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE. 
          BUT I TRULY BELIEVE I THINK WE NEED TO JUST KEEP OUR FEET ON THE FIRE AND LOOK AT IT FOR
IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          AND MR. MAYOR, ON THAT, THE SANTA MONICA CASE IS STILL PENDING. 
          AND AS WE KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES IS THERE MAY BE A CASE LAW THAT COMES OUT AND THEN
THE LEGISLATURE WILL REACT AND CHANGE LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS IT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL IS TO NOT MAKE A DECISION RIGHT NOW, WE
CAN BE DIRECTED TO ADVOCATE FOR WHAT THE POSITION THE GENERAL POSITION IS, LOOK AND WORK WITH OUR ADVOCATES TO MAKE SURE
THAT MAYBE THAT LEGISLATION IS FAVORABLE TO WHAT THIS CITY WOULD LIKE TO DO TO SEE THE FOUR DISTRICTS AND THE DIRECTLY ELECTED MAYOR WITHOUT ANY LEGAL LIABILITY OR PUNITIVE
DAMAGES POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE TO THE CITY, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IS UNDER THE CALIFORNIA VOTING RIGHTS ACT. 
          IT'S ONE THING TO GO FROM AT-LARGE TO DISTRICTS, BUT TO THEN GO FROM LIKE FIVE DISTRICTS
AND FLIP IT TO ANOTHER AT LARGE, EVEN IF IT IS FOR DIRECTLY ELECTED MAYOR, HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP. AND FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE IN SANTA MONICA'S
PLACE OR IN SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES, PLACES WHERE WE HAVE TO PAY A LOT IN THIS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT SEEMS IN READING ABOUT IT AND TALKING TO SOME
FOLKS THE COUNCIL JUMPED ON TO IT, IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A CHANGE IN LEGISLATION BECAUSE A LOT OF CITIES WERE BEING SUED AND THOSE WHO ACTED ON IT WERE GIVEN LENIENCY OR WERE
EXCLUDED FROM THE POTENTIAL LEGAL LAWSUITS. 
          SO THE CHANGE FROM THE 1972, AS THE COUNCIL DID AT THE TIME, WAS COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW. 
          THE STATE LAW SAID, HEY, ANY PREVIOUS DIRECTION BY THE VOTERS FOR A DIRECTLY ELECTED
MAYOR IS MOOT. 
          THE STATE LEGISLATURE DID THAT. 
          IT WASN'T THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL WAS JUST FOLLOWING WHAT THE STATE LAW HAD SET UP. 
          SO WE MAY SEE THAT AGAIN. 
          BUT WHAT WOULD BE GREAT IS IF WE DO GET DIRECTION TO LEAD OUR ADVOCACY EFFORTS AND TO
WORK WITH PEOPLE AND TO DO THOSE CONNECTIONS THAT WE'RE SO DESPERATELY AND SUCCESSFULLY DOING WITH OUR LOCAL ELECTED LEADERS AND STATE LEGISLATORS TO MAKE SURE THAT
CHANGE BENEFITS US IN THE FUTURE IF IT COMES. 
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OKAY. UM. 
          ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN FLOOR DISCUSSION ON THIS OR DO WE DO THE MOTION FIRST? MOTION FIRST. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A BALLOT MEASURE ON THE NEXT CONSOLIDATED ELECTION IN
2024 TO RESTORE A VOTE FOR THE MAYOR. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY EXISTS. 
          THAT'S MY MOTION. 
          I THINK WE ACTUALLY NEED TO OPEN UP TO THE FLOOR FIRST. 
          SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, RETIRED COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          CARTER. HELLO. 
          WELL, FIRST OFF, I'VE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME YOU PUBLICLY TO THE PART OF
THE COUNCIL IN OUR CITY. 
          AND YOU'RE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE. 
          WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU'RE VERY SHARP, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND WE'RE VERY
IMPRESSED. 
          SO THAT'S GREAT. 
          AS YOU ALL KNOW, I WAS ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE CHOSE TO GO WITH DISTRICT, AND YOU ARE
CORRECT, MR. DAHMER, THAT WE WERE TRYING TO SAVE THE CITY FROM BEING, YOU KNOW, A LAWSUIT OF 30 TO
40000. 
          THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          I HAVE A SUGGESTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER TO ALL OF YOU IS I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO
RUN A CAMPAIGN. 
          TWO YEARS WOULD BE MISERABLE. 
          I ONLY HAD TO DO IT EVERY FOUR YEARS. 
          AND SO YOU COULD BRING IT FORWARD THAT IF WE DO IT IN TEN YEARS THAT THE MAYOR IS A SET
POSITION, PUT THAT FORWARD. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO THE SURVEY OFFER, DO YOU WANT TO ELECT A MAYOR AND DO YOU WANT
IT FOR TWO OR FOUR YEARS? SO THAT COULD BE AN OPTION IF THAT'S LEGAL TO DO IT AT THAT TIME. 
          BUT I AGREE WITH WENDY AND RICK, DON'T DO IT NOW. 
          DO THE SURVEY LATER. 
          YOU, STEVE, I KNOW YOU MADE A CAMPAIGN PROMISE AND YOU'VE DONE THAT BY BRINGING IT
FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY TODAY. 
          BUT BY DOING WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, THERE'S WE HAVE ALL THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, ALL THESE NEW
PEOPLE WILL BE MOVING IN. 
          SOME OF US MIGHT BE MOVING OUT. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN NINE YEARS. 
          TEN YEARS. SO WAIT ON THE SURVEY SO THAT PEOPLE DO SEE ACTION RIGHT AFTER THE SURVEY IS
DONE. 
          AND THEN I SUGGEST LOOKING AT A MAYOR'S POSITION, IF IT'S GOING TO BE ELECTED TO I THINK
FOUR YEARS IS APPROPRIATE, BUT PUT THAT TO THE PUBLIC FOR TWO OR FOUR YEARS. 
          SO THEN WE ALL HAVE THAT OPTION TO DECIDE. 
          BUT IT'S NOT FUN RUNNING A CAMPAIGN. 
          THANK YOU, ROBIN. MS.. 
          BEAUCHAMP. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS CONSIDERING THE POSSIBILITY OF NOT HAVING TO WAIT THE TEN YEARS FOR THE NEXT
CENSUS, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO THINGS FACTORED INTO THE VRA. THERE WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST SEPARATED BY DISTRICT LINES,
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SIERRA LA VERNE HOA. 
          AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEY ALSO IT'S NOT A FORMAL AS IT'S NOT AS FORMAL AS AN HOA IS. 
          BUT THE COMMUNITY OF AMHERST, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE RESIDENTS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH THE
AMHERST PROJECT AND ALSO THE FRUIT STREET PROJECT, THE DISTRICT LINE GOES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF AMHERST. 
          SO THE NORTH SIDE IS DISTRICT THREE, THE SOUTH SIDE'S DISTRICT TWO. 
          SO THAT'S TWO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATED BY THE DISTRICT VOTE OR THE DISTRICT
LINES THAT WERE VOTED ON AND APPROVED, WHICH TO THIS DAY HAS NEVER BEEN REVEALED AS TO WHO CHOSE THOSE DISTRICT LINES. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON FOR FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH WHAT HE HAD
PROMISED AND GETTING THIS OUT THERE. 
          IF WE WERE TO I MEAN, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WAS APPROVED TO BEGIN WITH. 
          YOU HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHER STAND HERE AND TALK ABOUT COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST NOT BEING
SEPARATED YET. 
          THAT WAS THE THE LINES THAT WERE CHOSEN TO TO SEPARATE. 
          WHAT I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH, THOUGH, IS CITY OF SANTA MONICA'S CASE. 
          THEY WON THEIR CASE. 
          IT AUTOMATICALLY WENT TO APPEALS. 
          I MET WITH THE CITY OF SANTA MONICA MYSELF BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET ANY ANSWERS OVER THE
PHONE OR THROUGH EMAIL. 
          SO I DROVE DOWN THERE AND MET WITH THEM. 
          FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT SAYS PENDING WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THE
ACTUAL CASE ONLINE. 
          BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE PLAINTIFFS ARE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO WITHDRAW THEIR
APPEAL BECAUSE THEY KNOW IF THEY LOSE AND THEY'VE GOT TO PAY THE COURT COSTS FOR THE CITY OF SANTA MONICA, WHICH IS IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY, AS LAO EXPLAINED, THAT IT COULD BE SOMEBODY'S
ANNUAL SALARY OR MULTIPLE SALARIES. 
          BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE LOSING THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE, WE LOST 80% OF OUR
VOTING RIGHTS, BUT MORE SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THE UN 
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ANNEX AREAS WHO LOST 100% OF THEIR VOTE, 100%. 
          THEY CAN'T VOTE FOR ANY OF YOU GUYS. 
          AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON SAINT MARC BASELINE AND ALL THOSE LITTLE
STREETS OVER BY LEROY BOYS HANES BOYS HOME. 
          AND IT INFURIATES ME BECAUSE THIS COUNTRY IS BASED ON THAT AND YOU JUST DECIDED TO TAKE
THAT AWAY FROM THEM AND NOBODY'S CONSIDERING THAT AT ALL. 
          AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO ADDRESS IT TEN YEARS LATER. 
          YOU KNOW, HOW FAIR IS THAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE? AND THAT'S LIKE GOING BACK 102 HUNDRED YEARS, HOW ABOUT TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION? YOU'RE THROWING MEASURE OF THREE FOURTHS OF A PERCENT TAX ON THEM, BUT THEY DON'T GET THE
RIGHT TO VOTE TO SAY WHO'S ON THIS ON THIS COUNCIL. 
          THAT'S INSANITY. 
          YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT WITHOUT
HAVING TO WAIT THE TEN YEARS. 
          AND HONESTLY, IF WE HAD WAITED AND NOT AND NOT GONE TO DISTRICT VOTING AND WAITED TILL WE
GOT THE THE DEMAND LETTER FROM SOMEBODY WHO FELT LIKE THEIR VOTING RIGHTS WERE ACTUALLY BEING OPPRESSED, WE COULD HAVE ADDRESSED IT THEN. 
          I HAVE ALSO I ALSO HAVE A SUGGESTION OF HOW YOU COULD DO IT, NOT JUST HAVE THE VOTE OF
WHETHER YOU WANT A MAYOR, YES OR NO, AND TWO OR FOUR YEARS. 
          BUT DO IT LIKE THEY DID WITH THE RECALL FOR GOVERNOR NEWSOM, ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF A
RECALL? YES OR NO? IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES, THEN CHOOSE AN ALTERNATE OF WHO IS GOING TO REPLACE
HIM. 
          SO IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF A MAYOR, TWO YEARS. 
          FOUR YEARS. YES. 
          AND THEN CHOOSE WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          WHATEVER CANDIDATES THROW THEIR HAT IN THE RING AND YOU KNOCK TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE. 
          BUT THIS IS THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COULD I COULD I THANK YOU, MS.. 
          BEAUCHAMP? YES. ADDRESS THE COUPLE OF THOSE POINTS. 
          THERE'S NO PROVISION IN THE VRA FOR THE LOSING PLAINTIFFS TO PAY. 
          SO IF IF IF THEY'RE IF THEY LOSE, THEY WON'T BE PAYING ATTORNEY'S FEES ANYWAY. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WHAT THE INFORMATION WAS THAT WAS THAT WAS SHARED WITH YOU. 
          MOREOVER, EVEN IF THEY WITHDRAW THEIR APPEAL, THE SUPREME COURT, THIS CALIFORNIA SUPREME
COURT, HAVING GRANTED REVIEW, CAN RETAIN REVIEW TO MAKE THE DECISION ANYWAY. THE OTHER CONCERN OR THE OTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS ABOUT THE PROPOSED
ANNEXATION. 
          IF AN ANNEXATION GOES FORWARD, OF COURSE, THOSE RESIDENTS WILL BE ATTACHED TO AN EXISTING
DISTRICT AND WILL BE ALLOWED TO VOTE IN FUTURE ELECTIONS. 
          BUT I THINK THE QUESTION WAS THE COMMENT WAS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE COUNTY
AREA, NOT PART OF THE CITY LA VERNE WERE TAKEN AWAY THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE. 
          THEY NEVER VOTED FOR ANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          PRIOR? NEVER, BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF THE CITY. 
          BUT ONCE THEY DO BECOME PART OF THE CITY, THEN THEY WOULD BE ADDED TO THE VOTING ROLLS,
ADDED TO A DISTRICT, AND THEY WOULD BE FULLY ENTITLED TO VOTE FOR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE. 
          AND I KNOW THE CITY HAS GONE OVER TO THE AREA THAT WAS SPOKEN TO JUST SOUTH OF LEROY'S AND
TALKED TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ANNEXATION, AND THEY HAD AN ASTOUNDING NO, THEY DID NOT WANT TO COME INTO LA VERNE. 
          THEY ALREADY FELT THEY WERE LA VERNE, WHICH WE ALL FEEL THEY THEY'RE PART OF US. 
          BUT THEY THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PAY THE TAXES AND BE PART OF THE THE WATER SYSTEM THEY WOULD
HAVE TO INSTALL IN THAT TIME FOR ANNEXATION AS WELL. 
          SO BUT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER YOU CAN ACTUALLY ASK MARTIN WHITE BECAUSE HE'S NEVER VOTED FOR AND
THEY CAN'T THEY'RE LOST. THEY'RE COMPLETELY. 
          YEAH BASICALLY THEY ALL RAISED HIM. 
          JERRY, WE HAVE RAISED HAND. 
          JUST TAKE ME A MOMENT, SIR. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES, YES. 
          WONDERFUL. GOOD EVENING. 
          MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER. 
          CITY ATTORNEY. CITY STAFF. 
          I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF ECHO SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE COSTS AND THE TIMELINESS OF
THIS MEASURE OR THIS PROPOSED SUGGESTION TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT IN 2024. 
          WE THE COUNCIL VOTED LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO TO MOVE TO A ROTATION AND LESS THAN A YEAR
SINCE THE ROTATION HAS BEEN IN PLACE. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN THE CITY FALL APART. 
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I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ALL DOING GREAT WITH THE CURRENTLY ROTATED OR SELF-SELECTED MAYOR. 
          I THINK SPENDING $100,000 IN 2024 OR SOMETHING, THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL
2032 WHEN A VERY DIFFERENT POPULATION COULD BE A PART OF THE CITY WITH VERY LITTLE INPUT AS TO WHERE THE CITY HOW
THE ROTATING MAYOR IS GOING, I THINK IS A BAD MOVE. I THINK WE'VE GOT NINE YEARS OR EIGHT YEARS TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS WORKS. 
          AND IF WE LIKE A ROTATION, MAYOR OR NOT, I THINK THE FOLKS STILL ARE CONCERNED AND THINKS
THAT WE SHOULD GO BACK TO AN AVERAGE MAYOR. 
          I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE DISCUSSION OF THAT AND HAVE THAT CLOSER TO WHEN IT WOULD
ACTUALLY GO AND GOES BACK. 
          I ALSO WOULD BE CONCERNED AT THE LEGAL LANDSCAPE OF GOING FROM FIVE DISTRICTS DOWN TO
FOUR DISTRICTS. 
          AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO DETERMINE IN THE NEXT 7 TO 10 YEARS THAT WOULD EXPOSE IN AND
OF ITSELF TO ANOTHER CHALLENGE BY GOING FROM FIVE DISTRICTS TO ESSENTIALLY FOUR. IF THERE'S A REPRESENTATION ISSUE OR KHEDIRA WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS
WITH THAT OR SOME LITIGATION OR POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS. 
          SO I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT FOLKS WOULD LIKE TO
VOTE FOR MAYOR AT LARGE. 
          I JUST DON'T THINK NOW IS THE TIME IN 2023, THE BEGINNING OF 2023 TO BE MAKING A VOTE TO
PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT THAT IN EFFECT, WOULDN'T TAKE PLACE UNTIL 20 2032 AT THE EARLIEST. 
          SO THAT'S ALL. 
          THANKS. THANK YOU. 
          COME ON DOWN. RICH GIRL. 
          YOU KNOW, I RAN IN 2022 AND I RAN ON THE SAME THING. 
          I RAN BECAUSE WE LOST THAT VOTE FOR MAYOR AND I WANTED IT BACK. 
          AND I PUSHED SO HARD THAT, AS YOU SEE, WE ACTUALLY GAINED A SPECIFIC PERSON IN DISTRICT
ONE. 
          I DO WANT MY VOTE BACK FOR MAYOR AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I GET IT BACK BY ANY MEANS
POSSIBLE. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST IT AND THEY WANTED IT BACK. 
          SO I SUGGEST THAT WHEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AND GIVEN THE CHOICE, THE PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO WANT IT BACK. 
          THEY ENJOYED THEIR VOTE. 
          THEY WANT THEIR VOTE. 
          AND I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GILL. AND. 
          GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, CAPTAIN. 
          THIRD STREET. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          HAS ANYBODY EVER CONSULTED WITH OUR INSURANCE COMPANY THAT DOES OUR IN-HOUSE INSURANCE? WHAT DO THEY THINK ABOUT IT? I MEAN, I THINK THE WAY WE'RE SITUATED KEEPS THIS PRETTY LITIGATION PROOF. 
          BUT IF WE CHANGE THINGS, IF WE HADN'T DONE IT THINGS, WHAT IS THEIR OPINION ON IT? WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          MR. MAYOR, WE DIDN'T CONSULT WITH THE JP. 
          JP. CBGB, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IF WE WERE SUED, THEY DON'T THEY DON'T REPRESENT US IN CVR LITIGATION. 
          WE'RE ON OUR OWN. WE'RE ON OUR OWN. 
          ANYONE ELSE MISSED A. 
          MS.. TYNER. CYNTHIA TYNER. 
          THERE WERE TWO WORDS THAT CAME UP IN THIS CONVERSATION. 
          EXPECTATION AND EDUCATION. 
          I'LL SIMPLY SAY, AS FAR AS THE EXPECTATION GOES, I THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY
EXPECTED TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR A MAYOR. 
          AS FAR AS EDUCATION GOES, I DON'T THINK ONE IOTA OF TIME WAS SPENT TO EDUCATE ANYBODY IN
THIS COMMUNITY ON THE POSSIBILITY OF TAKING AWAY THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE FOR A MAYOR, LET ALONE KNOW ABOUT
DISTRICT VOTING. 
          AS FAR AS COSTCOS, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO PAID A REALLY HIGH PRICE TO BE ABLE TO
GAIN THE RIGHT TO VOTE. 
          YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $100,000 TO GIVE US THAT RIGHT BACK VERSUS WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE
LOST IN ORDER TO GAIN THAT. 
          RIGHT. THAT'S ALL. 
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THANK YOU, MISS TINER. MISS BARRY. 
          GOOD EVENING. I'M GOING TO MOVE THIS UP BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF NOT HEARING THERE. 
          OKAY. THERE. 
          GOOD EVENING, PAM BERRY, DURANGO COURT. 
          THERE'S TWO FACETS TO THIS DISCUSSION. 
          ONE IS THE VOTE. 
          THE SECOND IS WHEN. 
          OKAY, SO THERE MIGHT BE DISAGREEMENT AS TO WHEN. 
          BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS THE FIVE OF YOU. 
          DO YOU STAND BEHIND OUR RIGHT TO VOTE? WE WANT TO VOTE. 
          IT WAS TAKEN AWAY. 
          I WAS HERE FOR A LOT OF THOSE MEETINGS WHEN RESIDENT AFTER RESIDENT AFTER RESIDENT CAME
UP AND SAID, WE WANT TO VOTE FOR OUR MAYOR AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE IN SAYING THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT. 
          AND YOURS AS WELL. 
          WE WANT THAT VOTE. 
          WHAT CAN YOU DO TONIGHT TO ENSURE WE GET THAT VOTE, WHETHER IT'S EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW SO
THAT IT CAN TAKE EFFECT OR WHENEVER IT IS? WE WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU FIVE WILL STAND FOR THAT. 
          THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU, MISS BARRY. YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE? HERE. WHAT ELSE? NOTHING. WE'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR OF PUBLIC DISCUSSION BACK UP THE DAIS. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT. 
          THAT THIS IS WRITTEN. 
          IF IT DOES PASS A MOTION THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE UP FOR A LAWSUIT. 
          IT'S MORE OF JUST THAT WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S TIME THAT WE CAN VOTE ON THIS. 
          WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE NEXT CYCLE OF OF OUR CENSUS. 
          SO IF THE IF THE MOTION TONIGHT IS TO MOVE FORWARD, WE WOULD BE BRINGING BACK TO YOU A
PROPOSED BALLOT MEASURE FOR EVERYONE TO DISCUSS. 
          AT THE PRESENT TIME. 
          THE CODE. 
          HAS PRETTY STARK LANGUAGE ABOUT DIRECTLY ELECTED MAYOR AND THE TERM. 
          I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE WOULD WORD THE ORDINANCE, I BELIEVE
THAT WE COULD PROVIDE THAT IT WOULDN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL A LATER TIME. AND THEN ALL THOSE OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO COME OUT. IF WE DO APPROVE THIS, IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO US AGAIN
ANYWAY. 
          IT'S GOING TO COME BACK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, I'M ASSUMING, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE
EVERYBODY IS INTERESTED IN HAVING THE PEOPLE VOTE ON IT. 
          THE QUESTION IS REALLY WHEN? MR. MAYOR, I WOULD CONCUR THAT IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A VOTE BY THE COUNCIL, WE WOULD
WANT TO BRING BACK THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. 
          WE MOST CERTAINLY HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT. 
          I WANT TO VET IT OUT BECAUSE THIS CASE I WANT TO VET IT OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE
HAVE IS IS I WON'T SAY BULLETPROOF, BUT YET FIREPROOF, BECAUSE THERE'S ONE THING I DON'T WANT IS THE FACT THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH LAWSUITS ALREADY WITH THIS CITY. 
          AND IT'S BEEN VERY UNCOMFORTABLE, TO SAY THE LEAST. 
          AND IT'S VERY DAMAGING TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND IT TAKES YEARS FOR US TO REBUILD, WHICH WE'VE DONE. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT AGAIN. 
          AND I THINK BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DID LOSE OUR RIGHT TO VOTE FOR MAYOR. 
          I WILL AGREE WITH THAT. AND BUT WITH THAT COUNCILMAN. 
          SO I MY QUESTION OR I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO IS A POINT THAT MR. DELMAR MADE ABOUT VETTING THIS OUT AND OBTAINING DIRECTION IN TERMS OF MOVING THIS
FORWARD. 
          BECAUSE, AGAIN, I STILL THINK IT COMES TO THE SECOND QUESTION THAT YOU POSED, THE WHEN
RIGHT. 
          WHEN DOES IT WHEN DOES THIS TAKE EFFECT? AND THE REALITY IS VOTING ON IT NOW JUST MEANS IT COMES BACK, IT CAUSES CONFUSION AND IT
IS STILL A FISCAL ISSUE FOR US. 
          AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT, FOR INSTANCE, THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP IN
TERMS OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OTHER CITIES, PENDING LITIGATION. 
          WHERE DOES IT STAND? WHERE CAN WE MAKE THE MOST REASONED AND WELL INTENTIONED DECISION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
AND IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY? AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I FEEL COMFORTABLE IN TERMS OF INFORMATION PROVIDED AT THIS POINT
TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT FOR THE NEXT ELECTION PERIOD. 
          I'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION. 
          I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE LAWSUITS THAT ARE PENDING, WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF OTHER CITIES THAT ARE QUESTIONING, IS THIS THE RIGHT MODEL? I DO THINK THERE'S A QUESTION THAT I'VE HEARD FROM OTHER CITIES ABOUT IS
THERE A PARTICULAR SIZE CITY WHERE DISTRICTING MAKES SENSE AND WHERE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE 
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FOR OTHER SIZE CITIES? SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE POINTS ARE BEFORE WE COME DOWN WITH SOMETHING CONCRETE
TODAY. 
          AND I WILL GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT THE POPULATION IN FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS
IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME AND THE CLIMATE IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AT THIS POINT. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CROSBY YES, AND JUST WANT TO RESTATE THAT THE
CANNOT TAKE PLACE IF PASSED TILL 2032 WHEN WE HAVE A LOT MORE THINGS FROM NOW TILL THEN. I ALSO, IF WE WE COULD PUT UP A SAYING THAT WE'LL PUT IT FOR A VOTE IN 2030 AND
THEN THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME CAN REVOTE ON. 
          BUT WHAT WE STATE FOR THAT WE WANT BECAUSE THEN THAT'S RIGHT BEFORE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN,
THEN THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE RESIDENTS ARE HAPPENING RIGHT THEN. 
          AND WE KNOW OF OUTCOMES FROM FROM ANY LITIGATIONS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE OR BEEN BEEN
RESOLVED. 
          THE POINT OF IT'S NOT GOING TO GET CHEAPER ANY TIME LATER IF IT DOES MOVE TO IF WE DO
MOVE TO MAYOR VOTE, IT IS A MORE EXPENSIVE ELECTION BECAUSE IT'S CITYWIDE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE THAT ONGOING ANYWAYS. 
          BUT NOT JUST WAIT, DO IT NOW. 
          IF YOU DO IT NOW AND THEN, PEOPLE ARE WAITING BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPECTING IT TO HAPPEN. 
          IF WE PUT THIS TO A VOTE TODAY, I WOULD HAVE TO BE AGAINST THAT VOTE, BUT NOT AGAINST
PUTTING IT TO A VOTE TO THE PEOPLE, BUT AGAINST THAT IT'S HAPPENING IN 2024. 
          AND I AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT I'M WHAT I'M HEARING THAT THERE IS. 
          CONCERNS BEING VOICED BY THE PUBLIC. 
          THERE HAS BEEN CONCERNS RAISED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. 
          BUT AGAIN, I WOULD GO BACK TO WHAT THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDED IN THE BEGINNING IS THAT
WE PROVIDE DIRECTION RELATED TO THIS IN TERMS OF GATHERING OF INFORMATION TO MAKE A REASONED AND INTENTIONAL DECISION THAT MAKES SENSE AT A TIME THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT BE THE DIRECTION THAT WE MOVE IN SO THAT WE CAN GATHER
THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP DURING THIS MEETING. 
          IF WE HAVE DIRECTION TONIGHT ON THIS, IT COULD TAKE MONTHS TO DO THIS, MONTHS AND MONTHS. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT MONTH. 
          NOT THE FOLLOWING MONTH. 
          NO, THIS IS GOING TO BE WRITTEN UP AND WE'LL REVIEW IT AND THEN REVIEW IT AGAIN. 
          CRAIG SO, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE HAVE UP UNTIL IT'S 188 DAYS PRIOR TO THE MARCH 5TH
ELECTION IN WHICH TO PLACE MEASURES ON THE BALLOT. 
          SO I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURED OUT RIGHT NOW. 
          I CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT WE HAVE SOME TIME. 
          CORRECT. OKAY. 
          ANY MORE DISCUSSION THEN? WE NEED A MOTION OR A MOTION. 
          MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A BALLOT MEASURE ON THE NEXT CONSOLIDATED ELECTION
IN 2024 WITH THE QUESTION OF DO THE RESIDENTS WANT TO ELECT A MAYOR FOR A TWO YEAR TERM? CAN WE CHANGE THAT TO A TWO OR A FOUR TO A TWO OR A FOUR YEAR TERM? IT'S ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE ON THE BALLOT. 
          IT'LL PROBABLY COST MORE MONEY, BUT THAT'S FINE. 
          WE THIS IS NOT A FINAL, BUT IT IS OR I WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THIS ON THE BALLOT FOR THE 2024 ELECTION. 
          MR. MAYOR. MR.. 
          COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. 
          MAYBE IF THE DIRECTION AND CORRECT ME, CITY ATTORNEY, IF I'M WRONG. 
          WELL, YOU GUYS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS, ARE YOU GOING TO DIRECT US TO BRING BACK THE
NECESSARY RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCE LANGUAGE FOR A VOTE, OR IS THIS WILL THAT BE INCLUDED WITH YOUR MOTION TO ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON? AND THEN JUST WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME OF 188 DAYS PRIOR TO 188 DAYS FROM MARCH 5TH TO MAKE
SURE ALL THAT GETS BACK SO WE PLACE IT ON THE BALLOT. 
          SO, YES, I WOULD LIKE THE THE LANGUAGE TO COME BACK FOR OUR APPROVAL BECAUSE I HAVEN'T
WRITTEN ANYTHING UP ON THE EXCEPT IT WOULD BE THE PROPER DIRECTION FOR THAT. 
          BUT THAT BUT WHAT I WANT TONIGHT IS A VOTE OF THE COUNCIL TO SAY WHO IS FOR THIS OR WHO
IS NOT. 
          SO THE DIRECTION WOULD BE FOR US TO RETURN IN AN APPROPRIATE TIME WITH THE MATERIALS AND
INFORMATION TO PLACE THE 
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ITEM ON THE 2024 BALLOT. 
          SO SO WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE PLACE THIS ON THE 2024 BALLOT. 
          RIGHT. SO THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE A SECOND AND A MAJORITY VOTE. 
          I'LL SECOND. AGREEMENT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THE MEASURE IS APPROVED 3 TO 2 WITH THAT. 
          PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          WE GOOD, MR. DELMAR? ARE WE GOOD? WE SHOULD ANNOUNCE THE FULL VOTE. 
          SO THOSE WATCHING AT HOME? YES. YEAH. 
          SO YOU WANTED IT AGAIN? YEAH. REPRESENT YOUR VOTE? YES. SO. 
          DISSENTING VOTES WERE COUNCILMEMBER LAU AND MAYOR PRO TEM CROSBY APPROVING VOTES WHERE
MAYOR HEPBURN COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON AND 
          [8. PUBLIC COMMENTS/ORAL COMMUNICATIONS]
COUNCILMEMBER SAVITA. 
          WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          MS.. BEAUCHAMP, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          I WANTED TO REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE LIKE WE DISCUSS
THE ARPA MONEY TO GO TO THE SENIORS FOR A ONE TIME REPAIR. 
          WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT? HOW MANY RESIDENTS APPLIED? HOW MANY ACTUALLY WERE APPROVED TO RECEIVE MONIES FOR THEIR REPAIRS OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT? JUST SO WE CAN GET AN IDEA? IS THERE IS THERE STILL MONEY AVAILABLE? IS IT YOU KNOW, IS APPLICATIONS, ARE THEY STILL BEING ACCEPTED, WHAT THE STATUS IS AND
OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE LIKE THAT? BECAUSE WE WE HEAR ABOUT IT HERE, WE SEE IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN IT JUST KIND OF
DISAPPEARS AND WE NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, WAS IT A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM? YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK ON THINGS. 
          SO IN THE FUTURE, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT ON THE WEBSITE OR JUST A MENTION IN THE COMMENTS
AT THE END OF THE MEETINGS, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYS, OH, THIS PROJECT, TALK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH. 
          IF THEY COULD BRING THAT UP, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY INFORMATIVE FOR THE RESIDENTS. 
          WE CAN DO THAT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          CATHY? MS. NULAND CATHY NEWLAND, FOOTHILL TERRACE. 
          I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ADA MONEY THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT LAST TIME, AND THERE WAS
STILL MONEY LEFT. 
          CAN THAT BE USED FOR BETTER SPEAKERS IN HERE? I KNOW MY NEIGHBOR CANNOT HEAR MOST OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, AND EVEN I CAN HEAR IT. 
          I CAN'T HEAR IT, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S SOMEONE ON SCREEN. 
          SO IS THAT MONEY STILL AVAILABLE TO BE USED FOR ADA THINGS? WE WILL CHECK TO SEE IF THAT'S YOU BRING UP AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL POINT ABOUT HEARING
DISABILITY. 
          SO WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING AN ASSESSMENT. 
          WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONSULTANTS LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS FOR ADA ACCESSIBILITY IN CITY
HALL, SO WE WILL ADD THAT TO IT. 
          SPECIFICALLY THE CHAMBERS HEARING IMPAIRMENT, VISUAL IMPAIRMENT FOR THE CHAMBERS. 
          I THINK THAT'S GREAT. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE CDBG MONEY, CORRECT. 
          WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO UNLEASH THAT BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A NICE POT OF GOLD FOR US RIGHT
NOW. 
          SO, YES, THEY'VE BEEN REVIEWING IT. 
          I KNOW STAFF AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR SHARE AND ALSO OUR STAFF. 
          IT'S A HOT BUTTON. IT'S A IT'S A HOT BUTTON. 
          YEAH, IT'S A HOT BUTTON. 
          YOU WANTED TO CALL YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER. 
          MISS ROBIN CARTER. 
          HI, OK. 
          TWO ITEMS. I'VE ALWAYS PRAISED OUR CITY STAFF, AND I WANT TO DO THAT ONCE AGAIN. 
          I THINK THE CITY OF LA VERNE HAS BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH WONDERFUL EMPLOYEES
THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. 
          AND THE ONE I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT TODAY IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. 
          I LIVE UP IN I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA UP IN LIVE OAK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          AND WE MY CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHEN WE COME OUT OF OUR SOUTH GATE THAT LIVE OAK PARK
IS RIGHT THERE, THE FIRE STATIONS THERE, AND WE HAVE THE PARK WITH TENNIS COURTS. 
          THE SCARY PART IS AS YOU COME AROUND OUR BEND, THERE'S SO MUCH BRUSH THERE THAT YOU COULD
NOT EVEN SEE THE PLAYGROUND FOR WHERE THE CHILDREN PLAY. 
          AND ONE NIGHT I SAW KIDS OUT THERE, TEENAGERS, DOING A FIRE PIT ON THE KIDS PLAYGROUND
EQUIPMENT. 
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AND THEN THEY'RE ALWAYS DOWN THERE DOING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING. 
          SO I, I DID A WORK ORDER. 
          I DID IT THE RIGHT WAY. WE DID A WORK ORDER ONLINE. 
          AND THEN I MET WITH CITY STAFF UP THERE TO SHOW THEM THEY WERE SO WONDERFUL. 
          THEY HAVE CUT BACK THE BRUSH. 
          THEY MADE SUGGESTIONS. 
          THEY EVEN TOLD ME WHAT OUR HOA COULD DO TO WORK WITH THEM FOR OUR EXPENSE HOA TO CUT BACK
BRUSH EVEN MORE. 
          AND THEN ALL THE DG THAT WAS OUT THERE, THEY REPLACED WITH CONCRETE AND A LITTLE FENCE
THAT GOES ALONG THERE SO THEY CAN'T GO DOWN THE HILL AND THEY CLEANED UP THAT WHOLE AREA AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN DONE YET. 
          THEY'RE CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING AT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THE PARK AREA. 
          AND I JUST THINK THAT'S SO WONDERFUL. 
          THEY DON'T JUST DO WHAT IS ASKED OF THEM. 
          THEY LOOK BEYOND IN TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO TO MAKE IT A BETTER ATMOSPHERE FOR EVERYONE,
ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. 
          SO I APPLAUD OUR STAFF. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, ROMERO IS A MAIN PERSON I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, ALL THE GUYS UP THERE, THEY'VE BEEN WONDERFUL. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE GREAT STAFF. 
          ONE MORE QUICK ITEM ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS AT THE END THAT, YOU KNOW, PAST PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          BUT I DID WANT TO JUST MAKE ONE STATEMENT ON THE EV SINCE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK. 
          I DO KNOW I DO HAVE A TESLA, AS TIM SAID. 
          WHAT'S WONDERFUL, WHEN WE TAKE TRIPS, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS PUSH A BUTTON ON THE BIG
SCREEN AND IT COMES UP WITH EVERY CHARGING STATION WE CAN GO TO. 
          SO WHAT WE DO IS WE JUST STOP AT A RESTAURANT RIGHT THERE. 
          THEY HAVE CHARGING STATIONS. 
          THEY'RE VERY THEY'RE PUT IN PLACES THAT EVERYBODY CAN THINK WHAT THEY COULD DO WHEN THEY
GO TO THE STATION. 
          SO WE'LL GO EAT LUNCH, LET IT CHARGE FOR THE HOUR, THEN WE'RE OFF TO OUR NEXT PLACE. 
          THAT COULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY. 
          IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT WHERE YOU COULD PUT THOSE CHARGING STATIONS, IT COULD BE NEAR. 
          LET'S SAY YOU MENTIONED TARGET RIGHT OVER THERE BY. 
          THEY COULD HAVE IT AT THE FAR END OF TARGET, WHERE THEY CAN GO TO BROKEN YOLK FOR LUNCH,
BREAKFAST AND THEN GET BACK IN AND GO TO THE NEXT. 
          BUT IT WOULD BRING PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT LA VERNE IS ABOUT. 
          SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THESE CHARGING STATIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHERE THEY GO. 
          THE ONLY OTHER PROBLEM IS LAST SUMMER, REMEMBER EDISON, WITH THE ELECTRICAL GRIDS, THEY
TOLD US WE COULDN'T USE OUR AIR CONDITIONING. 
          SO HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GIVE US THE POWER TO DO THESE? SO DO YOU JUST WANT TO END IT WITH A CAN OF WORMS OR WHAT? YEAH, SORRY, BUT WE HAVE GREAT STAFF A WHILE. 
          WELL, I WILL SAY THE ONE THING ABOUT ELECTRIC ELECTRIC VEHICLE, IF ANYBODY HAS THEM,
WHICH TESLA TECHNOLOGY IS THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SITTING THERE EATING SAYING YOU HAVE 5 MINUTES TO GET BACK TO YOUR CAR, YOU'RE GOING TO BE CHARGED ANOTHER $10. 
          IT'S IT'S CRAZY. 
          SO TECHNOLOGY IS THERE. 
          IT'S THERE. THEY KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AND THEY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          ALSO, MISS CARTER, THAT I KNOW THAT THE CITY STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOKING AT THE
CURBS AND GUTTER AND THE WALKWAYS UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON ESPERANZA. 
          YES. ARE GOOD, RIGHT? SO THEY ARE LOOKING INTO THAT BECAUSE IT IS A HAZARD. 
          SO THEY'RE CHECKING IT OUT. 
          YEAH. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? MISS ANDERSON? I FEEL LIKE THE MATRIX, EXCEPT IT'S MISS ANDERSON AND ANDERSON SLOANE DRIVE. 
          SO LAST TWO MEETINGS AGO I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND ERIC WAS
KIND ENOUGH TO SEND ME A LIST OF HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THAT HAVE PUBLIC OPEN SPACES. 
          SO WE HAVE A GROUP THAT ARE THAT IS REALLY UPSET ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THESE ARE ACTUALLY PRIVATE SPACES. 
          THEY'RE NOT PUBLIC SPACES AT ALL. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS TERM CAME FOR THESE HOMEOWNERS, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS TO
HAVE PRIVATE OPEN SPACES, IF I'M SAYING IT RIGHT. 
          BUT ANYWAYS, ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE GROUP HAVE GONE TO ALMOST ALL OF THOSE
ASSOCIATIONS. 
          THOSE ASSOCIATIONS NOW ARE PLASTERED WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY AND ALL THESE LEGAL SIGNS THAT
THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO THEY'VE HAD PROBLEMS. WE'VE WE'VE ALMOST HIT ALL OF THEM NOW. 
          AND ONE ASSOCIATION, I THINK IT'S ON EMERALD. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE, BUT SHE TALKED TO ONE OF THE OWNERS THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL OWNER,
AND HE'S ALSO ON THE BOARD. 
          AND HE HAS THIS CONCEPT THAT THE PARK IN THERE BELONGS TO THE CITY, AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE
CARE OF IT. 
          AND THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. HE'S GOT THIS CONCEPT NOW OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT HE WAS TOLD
WHEN HE MOVED IN THERE. 
          THIS THING IS A MESS. 
          AND YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER, THESE SIGNS HAVE TO BE OURS. 
          WE HAVE ONE AND WE JUST MADE IT. 
          AND IT SAYS PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHAT IT INCLUDES, WHICH YOU'RE NOT
SUPPOSED TO COME IN TO DO AND EVERYTHING. 
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BUT THESE THESE THESE HOAS, I THINK BEFORE YOU PUT THEM UP FOR SALE, SHOULD HAVE THAT PUT
IN THOSE PROPERTIES SO THEY KNOW PEOPLE COMING IN THERE KNOWS YOU CAN'T USE THESE PARKS. 
          THEY'RE NOT YOUR PARKS. 
          THESE BELONG TO THE HOA, BUT THEY'RE NOT BEING DONE THAT WAY. 
          THEY'RE BEING SOLD AS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IN THE CITY CAME UP WITH THIS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S NOT
GATED. 
          SO ANYBODY CAN USE IT. 
          THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          AND IF IT IS TRUE, THAT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY ISSUE, BECAUSE THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          AND THIS ONE GUY THINKS THAT HE'S TAKING CARE OF A PARK THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY, BUT
IT'S NOT REALLY A CITY'S PARK IF YOU LOOK IT UP. 
          SO HE'S GOT THIS CONCEPT, THIS ALL WRONG. 
          SOME OF THESE GUYS EVEN HAVE THIS COMPANY THAT IS MONITORING THE PARK NOW BECAUSE THEY'VE
HAD SO MANY PROBLEMS. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP. 
          WE CAN'T SAY YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE THIS PARK BECAUSE IT'S NOT GATED. 
          IT BELONGS. IT'S AN HOA PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR. 
          SO THIS IS I THINK SHE HASN'T HIT TWO OF THEM YET, BUT THEY'RE ALL LIKE THAT NOW. 
          THE ONE PARTY STONE, IT'S FULL OF THOSE SIGNS. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT SIGN ON THERE
SO THE POLICE CAN SAY, HEY, THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          YOU HAVE TO LEAVE. IF THERE'S NO SIGN UP THERE, THEN WHAT'S THE POLICE, WHAT'S THE
POLICEMAN SUPPOSED TO DO? IF YOU'RE CALLING THEM IN BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE USING YOUR PROPERTY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK BEFORE THAT AMHERST PROPERTY GOES UP, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO WE'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THESE KIND OF NEW PROPERTIES NOW THAT WE'RE BUILDING. I MEAN, WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE PROPERTIES 20 YEARS AGO, 30 YEARS AGO, THAT, YOU
KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF NEW CODES ON THESE THINGS. 
          FOR THE BUILDERS, THE BUILDERS CAN'T BE IN CHARGE. 
          THEY CAN'T. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE CITY IN CHARGE OF THIS. 
          WE'LL REVIEW THAT WITH STAFF. 
          SOME GOOD INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. AND IF YOU COULD RELATE THAT INFORMATION TO STAFF, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          OH, ME AND ERIC, YOU GUYS KNOW ERIC'S CONVERSATION, SO I'M NOT I'M NOT BLAMING ERIC. 
          I MEAN, HE'S JUST DOING. NO, NO, NO, IT'S HE EXPLAINED IT, BUT I THINK IT'S IT'S GOOD FOR
US TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WORKS AND HOW IT'S A MESS. 
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OKAY, IT'S A MESS. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL MOVE IT UP TO THE DAIS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COMMENTS. 
          WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? I THINK COUNCILMEMBER LAO WANTS TO START IF SHE CAN GET HER SPEAR. 
          I DID IT. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANTED TO SHARE. 
          IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE, THEY ARE
DOING SAFER INTERNET DAY. 
          AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE AT THE LAST Y FAC MEETING THAT WE HAD, WE HAD A LOVELY
PRESENTATION REGARDING CYBER SECURITY, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR NOT JUST ADULTS BUT FOR KIDS. 
          AND SO THEY'RE PUTTING ON A SAFER INTERNET DAY TOMORROW. 
          IT'S FROM 11 TO 1230. 
          YOU CAN REGISTER ON THEIR WEBSITE. 
          SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, TAKE A LOOK. 
          BUT I DO THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN ONLINE THAT PEOPLE CAN BE EASILY TRICKED INTO DOING THINGS OR
GIVING AWAY MONEY OR DOING THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOOD. 
          SO DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK. 
          I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THAT THIS SATURDAY, THE DAY BEFORE THE SUPER BOWL, WHICH I DON'T
CARE ABOUT BECAUSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT EITHER TEAMS THIS YEAR, BUT SO SORRY IF YOU'RE AN EAGLES FAN OR A CHIEFS FAN, BUT THIS SATURDAY UAB IS HOSTING THE NATIONAL GIRLS AND WOMEN
IN SPORTS DAY AND THAT STARTS AT 1130 AND IT'S OPEN TO YOUNG WOMEN IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE A YOUNG WOMAN IN YOUR LIFE, A DAUGHTER OR GRANDDAUGHTER OR COUSIN,
WHATEVER, WE ARE HAVING ALUM FROM THE UNIVERSITY WHO ARE NOW WORKING IN SPORTS, WOMEN WHO ARE WORKING IN SPORTS, ONE WORKING IN THE NFL, ONE WORKING IN THE NHL FOR THE DUCKS, I
THINK ANOTHER ONE FOR THE NBA AND I THINK ANOTHER ONE FOR THE LA SOCCER CLUB. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE FEEL FREE. 
          YOU CAN EITHER EMAIL ME OR YOU CAN CONTACT JENNA PANETTIERE, WHICH IS OUR ATHLETIC
DIRECTOR AT THE UNIVERSITY, AND ASK ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY TO NETWORK, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE GOT YOUNG PEOPLE
IN YOUR LIVES WHO ARE INTERESTED IN MOVING INTO SPORTS. 
          CONSIDERING HOW MALE DOMINATED IT IS, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO NETWORK AND FIGURE OUT
A WAY IN AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. 
          SO. AT 11:30 A.M. 
          TO 2 P.M. 
          ON SATURDAY. SO IF RILEY IS INTERESTED, LET ME KNOW. 
          THE OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT WOULD BE THE TRI-CITY MENTAL HEALTH HEALTH ASSOCIATION IS AGENCY
SORRY IS HOSTING THEIR NEXT MEETING AT 5 P.M. 
          NEXT WEDNESDAY, WHICH IS THE DAY AFTER VALENTINE'S DAY. 
          SO THERE'S ALSO MY SHAMELESS PLUG FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY FORGET THAT VALENTINE'S DAY
IS NEXT TUESDAY. 
          I DON'T THINK THE WOMEN WILL. 
          MAYBE THE MEN MIGHT. SO THIS IS CONSIDER THIS YOUR KIND REMINDER TO DON'T FORGET YOUR
WIVES AND YOUR MOTHERS AND YOUR DAUGHTER. 
          AND THEN JUST IN PREPARATION, THE OF GALA THIS YEAR WILL BE ON MAY 6TH AND IT WILL BE ON
CAMPUS AGAIN. 
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IT RAISES A TON OF MONEY FOR SCHOLARSHIPS FOR OUR STUDENTS. 
          SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK. 
          AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION ON IT. 
          A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE THINGS. 
          JUST I KNOW THERE'S A LOT AND THIS IS AFTER THE MAYOR ALREADY WAS LIKE, SHORT AND SWEET. 
          IF YOU HAVEN'T MET TUPELO YET, TUPELO IS OUR NEW CANINE. 
          AND HE. SHE JUST HAD HER FIRST BIRTHDAY, SO FEEL FREE TO FIND TREATS FOR HER. 
          BUT SHE IS A FRIENDLY DOG THAT WILL BE OUT AND ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SHE'S A SNUGGLE BUG. 
          SHE'S ADORABLE BECAUSE I GOT PICTURES. 
          SHE'S SO CUTE. 
          AND SHE IS ABSOLUTELY DARLING. 
          SHE'S ADORABLE. AND SHE REALLY JUST DOES LOVE THE SNUGGLES. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SHARE FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE COMMUNITY WHO MAY HAVE
NOTICED THE GIANT OAK TREE IN FRONT OF WILSON LIBRARY AT AT UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE FELL DOWN DURING THE RAINS. 
          THAT TREE WAS PLANTED, I THINK, IN 1918. 
          SO IT'S SURVIVED TWO WORLD WARS, YOU KNOW, DEPRESSION, THE DEPRESSION AND A WHOLE BUNCH
OF OTHER THINGS. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, THE UNIVERSITY IS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ENGAGE THE
COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF COMMEMORATING THE TREE, DOING THINGS THAT WILL REPURPOSE THE LIFE OF THE TREE. SO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT. 
          AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I DID JUST WANT TO MENTION LUNAR NEW YEAR, AS YOU KNOW, IS
TWO WEEKS AGO, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS THE WEEKEND THAT THERE WERE THE SHOOTINGS IN MONTEREY PARK, HALF MOON BAY. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS FOR REACHING OUT. 
          I KNOW THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DIFFERENT CITIES THAT WE WORK IN AND AROUND IN THIS
AREA, I KNOW THAT THEY REACH OUT AND SEND THEIR THEIR NOT ONLY THEIR CONDOLENCES, BUT THEIR HELP AND ASSISTANCE WHERE NEEDED. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD REMINDER, AGAIN, THAT YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING THROUGH
SOMEONE'S MIND. 
          AND SO I KNOW YOU HEAR ME TALK A LOT ABOUT TRI-CITY MENTAL HEALTH, BUT THEY DO OFFER
QUITE A BIT OF PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES TO ASSIST WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH TIMES OF TROUBLE. SO I URGE YOU TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THEIR RESOURCES. 
          IT IS IMPORTANT. SO AS ALWAYS, BE KIND. 
          HOPE YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEK. 
          HOPE YOU ARE FEELING LOVED ALL MONTH. 
          Q COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WOULD BE NEXT? COUNCIL MEMBER CASH. YOU'RE READY, MAN. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT A GOOD JOB COUNCIL MEMBER ALLOWS YOU TO ALMOST 99.9 THINGS FOR ME. 
          I WAS GOING TO SAY SO I'LL MAKE IT EXTRA SWEET. 
          I WANT TO THANK GOD FOR OUR FIRST GIVE ME OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY. 
          SECOND FOREMOST, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES WHERE I
ATTENDED AND REPRESENTED LA VERNE BEST I CAN BEST. 
          AND HOPEFULLY NOBODY GOT TO COMPLAIN. 
          NO, OK. NOT YET. 
          NO PROBLEM. I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD PUT TIM HEPBURN NAME ON THERE, BUT IT WAS A
DEAD GIVEAWAY, SO IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          NETWORKING, NETWORKING, TALKING TO HIM. 
          THE CITIES THAT SURROUND US AND THE 479 CITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY PARTICIPANTS OF THE
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES. 
          SOME OF THE GREAT TRAINING, OF COURSE, I REALLY ENJOYED IS DEVELOPING EFFECTIVE CITY
COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER TEAM ONE TEAM. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. THE KEY TO GOOD GOVERNANCE AND CITY SUCCESS AND YOUR LEGAL POWERS AND
OBLIGATIONS. 
          OPEN GOVERNMENT AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST, AND SEVERAL OTHER GREAT ADVOCACY AND KEY CITY
ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, FOLLOWED BY SOME NETWORK LUNCHEONS AND DINNERS THAT I TRIED TO ATTEND AS MUCH AS I COULD AND WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN ONE OF THE GREAT CLASSES I
REALLY LIKED OBVIOUSLY WAS THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT. GREAT OPPORTUNITY OVER THERE. 
          TALK ABOUT THE VARIOUS SOCIAL MEDIA CONTESTS THAT WE CAN HAVE AND CAN CONNECT IN THE
COMMUNITY WITH US. 
          SO I WANT TO THANK CITY FOR ALLOWING ME TO ATTEND THAT. 
          AND WHILE I WAS THERE, I NOTICED THERE ARE A LOT OF AMAZING COMMITTEES. 
          THEY HAVE ONE OF THE I SPOKE WITH THE PRESIDENT, ALI TAJ, WHO WAS THE MAYOR OF ARTESIA
AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE OF THE LEAGUE, AND RECOMMENDED THAT THEY START A VETERANS COMMITTEE THERE THAT ONCE ONE OF THE COMMITTEES THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE, I WAS LOOKING
FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY HAVING FURTHER CONVERSATION AND DIALOG TO SEE THAT WE COULD DO SO. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNSEL FOR COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. 
          MARY HEPBURN, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS BACK ON THE BALLOT AND
LETTING RESIDENTS DECIDE WHO, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE AN ELECTED MAYOR OR NOT. 
          THAT'S HUGE. I APPRECIATE IT. 
          TIM, YOU MENTIONED TO ME THAT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT REDMOND. 
          GO AHEAD, PLEASE. 
          PLEASE. ONE OF MY CHILDHOOD FRIENDS, JERRY REDMOND. 
          WE GREW UP TOGETHER FOR MANY YEARS. 
          HIS FATHER RECENTLY PASSED AWAY, WHO WAS A LONG TIME MEMBER OF THE LA VERNE POLICE
DEPARTMENT. 
          HIS FAMILY, MR. REDMOND AND MY PARENTS RAISED CHILDREN TOGETHER. 
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DON WORKED FOR MY FATHER FOR SOME TIME. 
          JERRY, MY BEST FRIEND GROWING UP, WORKED FOR MY DAD AND I WORKED FOR HIS DAD LATER AND
GOING TO COLLEGE JUST. A LOT OF GOOD MEMORIES WITH THE REDMAN FAMILY. 
          AND DONNA, HIS DAUGHTER, SERVED THIS COUNCIL FOR MANY YEARS, JUST VERY INVOLVED IN THE
COMMUNITY OF LAVERNE. AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME WITH THE PASSING
OF DON REDMOND. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM CROSBY. 
          LAST WEEK, I WAS LUCKY TO REPRESENT THE CITY ON ONE OF OUR. 
          OUR MOST INFLUENTIAL PARTNERS. 
          OF OUR CITY IS OUR LOCAL PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          BONITA HIGH SCHOOL WAS GOING THROUGH THEIR ACCREDITATION, AND I GOT TO BE ON THEIR
WELCOMING TEAM AND TO GO AND MEET THE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE EVALUATING THEM, THEY HAD FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM FROM
DIFFERENT CITIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          AND THE HIGH SCHOOL WAS SIMPLY AMAZING OF SHOWING OFF WHAT GREAT THINGS AND PROGRAMS THEY
HAVE. 
          WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE A A PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT IN OUR CITY THAT IS SO SUCCESSFUL. 
          OUR HOUSING PEOPLE COME AND MOVE IN TO OUR CITY, NOT JUST BECAUSE OUR WONDERFUL CITY IS,
BUT HOW WONDERFUL OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AS WELL ALSO. 
          AND THEN ON WEDNESDAY, MAYOR HEPBURN AND I HONORED OAK MESA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON THEIR
DISTINGUISHED SCHOOL AWARD THAT THEY RECEIVED. 
          AND THAT NIGHT, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ALSO APPOINTED MR. MATTHEW WINN AS THEIR NEW SUPERINTENDENT. 
          AND SO I HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT POINTS THAT MR. WIEN SAID ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND HIGHLIGHT HERE,
BECAUSE HOW IT REPRESENTS OUR CITY AS WELL. 
          BENITA IS IN THE TOP 10% OF ALL UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN CALIFORNIA WITH RESPECT TO
ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT. 
          BSD WAS RANKED THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY'S BEST SCHOOL DISTRICT BY THE READER'S CHOICE
AWARDS. 
          BSD IS A THREE TIME WINNER OF THE TOP WORKPLACE AWARD BY THE INLAND NEWS GROUP. 
          THEIR READING PROGRAM WAS RANKED NUMBER ONE IN THE STATE BY THE CALIFORNIA READING
COALITION. 
          AND THEY HAVE DISTINGUISHED SCHOOLS AND THEY HAVE A TWO TIME WINNER OF THE NATIONAL BLUE
RIBBON SCHOOL, WHICH IS SEOUL IN SAN DIMAS, BUT OUR GREAT SCHOOLS HERE IN LA VERNE. SO I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE BENITA UNIFIED, MR. WIN, OAK MESA AND BENITA HIGH SCHOOL, WITH PRINCIPAL RICHIE DOING EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT
JOBS REPRESENTING NOT ONLY THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT OUR CITY AS WELL. 
          THEN TONIGHT, I HAD A PESKY ABOUT 15 MINUTES BEFORE VISITOR AT MY HOUSE AND THEY'RE OUT
AND ABOUT. 
          SO YOU REALLY NEED TO BEWARE GIRL SCOUTS IF YOU DON'T MEET THEM. 
          WHY THEY'RE SO GOOD. 
          SHE CAME IN AND OH, I JUST BOUGHT OUT ALMOST EVERY COOKIE THAT THEY HAD. 
          I GUESS MY NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION IS ALWAYS GONE BY THIS TIME WHEN THOSE GIRL SCOUT SEASON
STARTS. 
          OH, YES. THERE YOU GO. 
          SO TOO. SO THEY'RE OUT AND ABOUT. 
          OUR LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS HELP THEM OUT AND IF THEY COME. 
          LOVELY LITTLE GIRL WITH HER MOM RIGHT NEXT TO HER AND SAID, COME ON IN AND LET'S MY WHOLE
FAMILY CAME OUT AND ALL PICKING UP DIFFERENT COOKIES. 
          I ALWAYS WANT TO THANK GEORGE MAE AND THE LIBRARY, ALWAYS GREAT PROGRAMS THAT YOU PUT ON
THERE. 
          AND JUST THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND REPRESENTING OUR CITY AND AND HAVING THOSE GREAT
EVENTS FOR FOR US, TOO. 
          SO APPRECIATE THAT, GEORGE. 
          I'M ON YOUR WI-FI RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S AMAZING. YEAH, WELL, THIS WAS AN EXTREMELY BUSY FEW WEEKS. 
          AND ONE OF THE MAIN ONES LAST NIGHT, KIM KRAUSE, WHO'S BEEN IN OUR RESTAURANT FAMILY FOR
YEARS, HER FAMILY, HER HUSBAND JOEL, KIDS, MATT AND HEIDI, THEY HAD THEY HAD A HORRIFIC FIRE IN THEIR HOUSE. 
          NO ONE WAS INJURED, BUT THEY LOST THE HOUSE PRETTY MUCH, AND THEY'RE WELL TAKEN CARE OF. 
          BUT THEY HAD A FUNDRAISER LAST NIGHT THAT CHASES FOR ALL THE FOOD PURCHASES, GAVE 15% AND
WHATEVER PEOPLE WANTED TO DONATE. 
          SO I WENT OVER THERE, GOT SOME GREAT TO GO, AND THEN CHATTED WITH EVERYBODY. 
          SO JUST THINK ABOUT THOSE TWO. 
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SHE'S SHE'S THE WHOLE FAMILY. 
          SHE'S BEEN SHE'S JUST BEEN INCREDIBLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I REMEMBER 20 PLUS YEARS THAT SHE'S BEEN IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS FOR SINCE WE'VE BEEN
HERE. 
          AND ANYWAY, SO THAT WAS REALLY NICE OF DORY AND SHAWN, THE OWNERS OF CHASE'S. 
          THAT WAS VERY NICE. 
          WE ARE COUNCILMEMBER LAW MYSELF. 
          WE WERE AT THE GRAND OPENING OF THE NEW VET SURGERY CENTER, THE POMONA VALLEY. 
          P YEAH, YEAH. 
          HUMANE SOCIETY OPEN UP A SURGERY CENTER. 
          SO IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE FUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT THE SURGERY CENTER IS FOR. 
          OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN PAY IF YOU HAVE THE FUNDS, BUT INCREDIBLE IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO GO
TAKE A LOOK. 
          IT'S IMPRESSIVE. 
          BRAND NEW SIX PLUS MILLION DOLLARS. 
          MOST DONATIONS. 
          AND IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. 
          IT WAS GORGEOUS. SO MULTIPLE SURGERY PLACES INSIDE. 
          SO IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. 
          AND IT'S GOING TO SERVICE OUR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. 
          SOME BAD NEWS ABOUT THE GOLD LINE. 
          APPARENTLY, THE CALIFORNIA STATE TRANSIT AUTHORITY HAD EARMARKED THREE MAJOR PROJECTS. 
          ONE WAS THE EXTENSION OF THE GOLD LINE FROM POMONA TO CLAREMONT TO MONTCLAIR. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT FUNDING, WHICH WAS $798 MILLION, WAS TAKEN FOR ANOTHER PROJECT. 
          WE ARE LIKE NUMBER THREE PROJECT TO COMPLETE THE GOAL LINE, WHICH IS BEEN ON TIME AND ON
BUDGET SINCE THE THE SINCE THE INCEPTION, WHICH OURS FINISHES A 9.1 MILE RATE. 
          BUT I'VE TALKED TO SOME MEMBER HOLDEN AND HE SAID THAT THEY THERE'S STILL FUNDING THERE'S
STILL $5 BILLION OUT THERE SOMEWHERE THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS FUNDED SO WE CAN COMPLETE IT TO MONTCLAIR. 
          BUT THEN THE GOAL IS, IS SAN BERNARDINO TO PICK UP TO PICK IT UP FROM MONTCLAIR TO THE
ONTARIO AIRPORT, WHICH WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR ALL OF US. 
          LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE HERE? YEAH. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          I DO WANT TO PUT IN OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS TURKEY THAT HAD THE HORRIFIC EARTHQUAKE, AND
THEY'RE STILL EXPERIENCING IT. 
          AND IT'S GOING TO BE JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF LIVES LOST IN THAT EARTHQUAKE. 
          SO LET'S KEEP OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS AND DONATIONS TO TURKEY. 
          ALSO, OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES OF MONTEREY PARK AND ALSO HALF
MOON BAY FOR THE HORRIFIC LOSS OF LIFE FOR THEM. 
          WITH THAT, ALSO, I THINK THAT I KNOW THAT CHIEF NAGY TALKED ABOUT AND THEY HAVE IT ON
THEIR WEBSITE REGARDING FIRE SAFETY. 
          WE'VE HAD AN AWFUL LOT OF STRUCTURE FIRES HERE, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, FIRES. 
          SO THERE'S I WAS GOING TO DO A MINUTE WITH THE MAYOR ALSO, BUT HE'S ALSO PUT IT ON HIS
WEBSITE. 
          IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR FIRE SAFETY. 
          JUST A FEW LITTLE THINGS. 
          KEEP YOUR HOUSE CLEAR OF STUFF AROUND THE HOUSE, BUT ELECTRICAL CORDS, MULTI OUTLETS,
MAKE SURE THOSE ARE CLEAR. 
          MAKE SURE YOU CLEAN YOUR DRYER VENTS, MAKE SURE THAT THE TREE, IF IT'S LIVE AND CHRISTMAS
THE MINUTE IT'S OVER, GET IT OUT OF YOUR HOUSE. 
          MAKE SURE THERE'S CLUTTER. 
          THESE ARE A LOT OF ATTIC FIRES. 
          A LOT OF THEY WERE LAUNDRY FIRES BECAUSE OF THE LINT BEING FULL. 
          THE SIMPLE TASKS AND SIMPLE THINGS. 
          PULL THE STUFF OUT, CLEAN IT UP, BUT MAKE SURE YOU CHECK YOUR OUTLETS. 
          MAKE SURE YOU CHECK YOUR OUTLETS IF THEY HAVE BURN MARKS ON THEM. 
          SIMPLE STUFF LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THESE FIRES JUST DESTROY LIVES AND THEIR BELONGINGS. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE ON NO DEATHS AND LOSS OF LIFE. 
          BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT WE CAN PROBABLY PREVENT SOME OF THEM. 
          BUT I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS TO BE AWARE AND BECAUSE IT'S JUST WE'VE HAD A FIRE
IN LA VERNE, OUR SECOND HOME AND IT WASN'T A LOT OF DAMAGE AS FAR AS INTERNAL, BUT THE SMOKE AND THE HEAT, IT DESTROYS EVERYTHING. 
          SO LET'S ALL PLEASE BE CAREFUL AND WE'LL BE PUSHING THAT AGAIN. 
          CHIEF NIGG, IS THAT CORRECT, FOR FIRE SAFETY? SO I KNOW THEY DID A VIDEO AND THEY POSTED IT ON THEIR WEBSITE, BUT MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT
ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND POST THAT ALSO. 
          CHIEF O STATE OF THE CITY. 
          THAT'S MONDAY, NEXT MONDAY, NEXT MONDAY THE 13TH WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT. 
          YEAH, THAT'LL BE AT HILLCREST. 
          THAT'S WHAT I SAID. UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE. 
          SORRY, GUYS, IT'S NOT HERE YET, BUT YES, YES, WE WILL. 
          WE'LL BE AT HILLCREST BUT UNIVERSITY LA VERNE, THE ABRAHAM CAMPUS CENTER. 
          THANK YOU. IT'S JUST 10:30 A.M.. 
          THERE'LL BE STUFF, MUNCHIES, MUNCHIES, COFFEE, JUICE, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE'RE NOT DOING THE LUNCH. 
          WE'RE CHANGING A LITTLE BIT AND THE CITY IS WORKING ON THAT, SO IT SHOULD BE FUN WITH
THAT. 
          OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING DUE TO THE LEGAL HOLIDAY. 
          WE WILL. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 21ST, 2023 AT 6:30 P.M.. 
          WE WILL BE CLOSING IN HONOR TONIGHT FOR DON REDMAN AND KEEP HIS FAMILY IN YOUR HEARTS AND
PRAYERS PLEASE, FOR ALL OF THEM. 
          WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT A QUARTER TO NINE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.