[ CALL TO ORDER]
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OH. HELLO ALREADY. OH, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:30 P.M.
ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025. MR. DOMER, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY? PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON? PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER LAU? PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM KASHIFALGHITA IS IN TRAFFIC AND SHOULD BE HERE SOON.
[CLOSED SESSION TOPIC ]
AND LET US KNOW IF THERE WILL BE ANY REPORT OUT AFTERWARDS. YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE HAVE CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATORS PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 54957.6. NEGOTIATORS, OUR CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.THE EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS ARE LA VERNE CITY EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION, LA VERNE FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION, LA VERNE FIRE MIDDLE MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION, LA VERNE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, LA VERNE POLICE MIDDLE MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION AND ALL UNREPRESENTED EMPLOYEES. I DO NOT EXPECT A REPORT OUT THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CLOSED SESSION? WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? NO. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? NO. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE REASSESSING THE CLOSED SESSION AND RECONVENE AT 6:30 P.M.
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. WE'RE GOING TO START THIS MEETING TONIGHT AT 6:32 P.M.
[REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - 6:30 PM ]
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT PER THE CITY'S RULES OF DECORUM, ALL SPEAKERS, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE TO CONDUCT THEMSELVES WITH DECORUM AND NOT TO ENGAGE IN CONDUCT THAT INTERRUPTS THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.ALSO, PUBLIC COMMENT THROUGH ZOOM MAY BE ACCEPTED FOR THE AGENDA ITEMS LISTED WITHIN THE CONSENT CALENDAR, PUBLIC HEARING AND DISCUSSION CALENDAR SECTIONS OF THE AGENDA. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED AT THE MEETING BY THOSE PHYSICALLY IN ATTENDANCE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. TONIGHT, WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE STAR SCOUT LIAM HICKMAN TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
LIAM, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? THANK YOU.
WILL ALL VETERANS AND THOSE IN UNIFORM PLEASE SALUTE.
AND ALL OTHERS, PLEASE PLACE YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
READY? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
IT'S COOL. WELL GOOD EVENING LA VERNE. HOW ARE WE DOING TODAY? WHAT AN AMAZING SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR A ROUND OF APPLAUSE. THIS AMAZING SCOUT, LIAM HICKMAN.
AND HIS LOVELY MOTHER IS HERE, TOO. WE'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY GET YOU ON BOARD.
I'M SURE SHE'S TAKING YOU TO EVERY SINGLE PLACE, UNLESS YOU DRIVE. DO YOU DRIVE? NO.
OKAY. NOT YET, NOT YET. NO, NO. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I GOT TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT YOU. IT WAS AWESOME TO KNOW.
AND I LIKE THE CITY HERE TO LEARN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT LIAM HICKMAN.
IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. TELL US YOUR NAME AND WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO.
I'M LIAM HICKAM. I GO TO RAMONA MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A SCOUT? NOT QUITE SURE, A WHILE.
A LONG TIME, A LONG TIME. YEAH. OKAY. AND YOU'RE IN EIGHTH GRADE? YES. LA VERNE. RAMONA. YES. AND WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO TO HIGH SCHOOL? BONITA. BONITA. AWESOME. OKAY, A LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY, BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO.
ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE BEING A SCOUT THROUGHOUT YOUR HIGH SCHOOL YEARS? YES. AWESOME. AND WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? EAGLE. EAGLE. NICE. ACTUALLY WORK ON A NICE PROJECT IN THE COMMUNITY.
HOW AWESOME IS THAT? YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EASY TO EARN YOUR EAGLE SCOUT.
I'VE. I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL EVENTS AND HONORED THEM, AND IT'S NOT EASY.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? NOTHING'S EASY. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUT THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT.
ALRIGHT, I'M REALLY PROUD OF YOU. SO HERE'S YOUR CERTIFICATE.
CITY OF LA VERNE CERTIFICATE RECOGNITION PRESENTED TO LIAM HICKMAN.
THIS CERTIFICATE IS PRESENTED ON BEHALF OF THE LA VERNE CITY COUNCIL TO STAR SCOUT LIAM HICKMAN, IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
CONGRATULATIONS. AND GET DOWN HERE.
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WHERE'S MINE? YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT. THERE YOU GO, GUYS.I. DO THAT. MR. DOMER, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY? HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON? PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER LAU? PRESENT. MAYOR PRO TEM KASHIFALGHITA? PRESENT. MAYOR HEPBURN? PRESENT. ALL PRESENT SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DID HAVE A CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT.
THERE IS NO REPORTABLE ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS.
[PRESENTATIONS ]
FIRST IS THE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH PROCLAMATION.NOVEMBER IS A MONTH LONG OBSERVANCE OF CELEBRATING THE RICH TRADITIONS, HISTORIES, AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN, ALASKA NATIVE, NATIVE HAWAIIAN, AND AFFILIATED ISLAND COMMUNITIES.
TONIGHT, WE ARE JOINED. LET'S GO DOWN, GUYS. TONIGHT WE'RE JOINED BY BROTHERS RENEE AND MICHAEL OLIVA, WHO REPRESENT THE RUMSEN TRIBE. RENEE AND MICHAEL WERE BORN AND RAISED IN LA VERNE.
THE RUMSEN TRIBE ARE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA COAST, HISTORICALLY INHABITING THE CARMEL RIVER VALLEY AND SURROUNDING MONTEREY COUNTY, AND OUR SPECIAL CONNECTION IS THE OLIVA FAMILY.
YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY HERE. COME ON. COME ON UP HERE.
COME ON UP HERE. OKAY, FIRST WE'LL DO THE PROCLAMATION.
THEN I WANT YOU GUYS TO IMMERSE US, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
CITY LA VERNE PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER IS RECOGNIZED AS NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE RICH HISTORIES, DIVERSE CULTURES, AND ENDURING TRADITIONS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.
AND WHEREAS INDIGENOUS TRIBES OF CALIFORNIA CONTINUE TO ENRICH AND STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, CULTURAL PRESERVATION, YOUTH EMPOWERMENT, AND EDUCATIONAL SUPPORT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
AND WHEREAS, INDIGENOUS PEOPLES AND ANCESTRAL TIES TO THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY AND SURROUNDING REGIONS CONTINUE THEIR ONGOING EFFORTS TO SUSTAIN, REVITALIZE, AND RECONNECT WITH THEIR CULTURAL HERITAGE AND HOMELANDS.
AND WHEREAS THIS EVENING, THE CITY OF LA VERNE RECOGNIZES THE RUMSEN TRIBE FOR THEIR COUNTLESS CONTRIBUTIONS, INCLUDING THOSE MADE BY TRIBAL MEMBERS LIVING IN LA VERNE AND REAFFIRMS THE LASTING IMPORTANCE OF ADVOCACY FOR INDIGENOUS PEOPLES.
NOW, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY OF LA VERNE THAT THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER 2025 BE RECOGNIZED AS THE HERITAGE NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH AND ENCOURAGES ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN IN HONORING THE HISTORY, CULTURE, AND LASTING CONTRIBUTION TO THE NATIVE PEOPLES OF OUR COMMUNITY. DATED THE 17TH DAY OF NOVEMBER 2025.
THANK YOU. OH, OKAY. WE'RE GONNA START TALKING NOW.
OKAY, GREAT. YOU HOLD IT. I HAVE MY FEET. OH.
SO SORRY. SO I WASN'T QUITE SURE HOW MUCH TIME WE HAD, SO I HAD MY EVERYTHING.
I DON'T USUALLY DO CHEAT SHEETS, BUT I'M GOING TO DO THAT TONIGHT.
SO FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE, THE COUNCIL FOR INVITING US HERE.
HE DIDN'T GO. HE. THAT'S A GOOD THING. HE ACTUALLY, HE ACTUALLY WALKED UP TO OUR BOOTH.
WE HAD A OVER THERE AND HE INTRODUCED HIMSELF AND HE WAS REALLY NICE, VERY CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING, WHO WE ARE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND HE INVITED US TO HERE TONIGHT.
AND WE ARE SO PROUD TO BE HERE, SO HONORED. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CHAIRMAN IS NOT HERE TONIGHT WITH US.
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HE'S ACTUALLY GOING UP TO CARMEL FOR BUSINESS.HE'S WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING BACK AND FORTH.
OUR TRIBE IS I'M GOING TO JUST READ THIS. THE REMSEN, OUR INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA COASTAL AREA, HISTORICALLY INHABITING THE CARMEL VALLEY RIVER VALLEY AND SURROUNDING MONTEREY COUNTY.
THEY ARE PART OF A LARGER OHLONE FAMILY. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR OUR OUR TRIBE IS MOSTLY IN CARMEL, MONTEREY, SANTA CRUZ. HOWEVER, WE HAVE MIGRATED DOWN HERE TO THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY.
AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUR WE HAVE OUR TRIBE IS VERY BIG.
IT'S HUGE. AND WHEN THE GOLF TOURNAMENT THAT WE DID ARE JUST ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO PROMOTE OUR TRIBE TO, TO GET OUR BRAND OUT THERE. THE CARMEL BAND OF INDIANS IS ONE OF THE CONTEMPORARY GROUPS TRACING DIRECT DESCENDANTS FROM THE ORIGINAL MISSION ERA PEOPLE.
MEMBERS OF THE CARMEL BAND OF INDIANS ARE DESCENDANTS OF THE COSTANOAN ANCESTRY.
SO THAT'S WHO WE ARE. THAT'S OUR ANCESTRY. AND WHAT'S OUR CAUSE? BASICALLY, THE MOST CRUCIAL INITIATIVE IN THE EFFORT TO RETURN TO OUR ANCESTRAL LANDS.
THIS IS VITAL FOR RECLAIMING THEIR CULTURAL IDENTITY AND REVIVING THEIR TRADITIONS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.
AND WHEN I TALK TO KASH, HE'S LIKE, WHY ARE YOU DOING THEM THERE? THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. HE'S LIKE. YEAH, WHY ARE WE DOING IT? BECAUSE THE REASON WHY WE DO THEM IN ARCADIA IS BECAUSE WE HAVE CONNECTIONS THERE.
AND OUR VERY FIRST POWER THAT WE HAD YEARS AGO WAS IN ARCADIA.
SO WE HAVE CONNECTIONS THERE. SO SO I GUESS NOW WE HAVE CONNECTIONS HERE IN THE CITY OF LA VERNE, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BORN AND RAISED. I HAVE ANOTHER BROTHER AND A SISTER. WE ALL, YOU KNOW, WENT TO SCHOOL HERE. MY BROTHER AND I, WE WENT TO HOLY NAME OF MARY WENT TO AND GRADUATED FROM DAMIEN HIGH SCHOOL.
SO WE'VE ALL BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HERE. I WENT TO CAL POLY.
WELL, HE WENT TO CAL STATE LONG BEACH. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY HERE IN THE CITY OF LA VERNE.
AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED, MY FATHER OVER 30 YEARS IN THE CITY, JOSEPH OLIVA IN THE STREET DEPARTMENT.
SO HE RETIRED FROM THERE. SO THE TRIBE RUNS A ROBUST YOUTH PROGRAMING, INCLUDING TRIBAL YOUTH COUNCIL TO INSTALL LEADERSHIP SKILLS, CULTURAL HISTORY AND ECOLOGICAL AWARENESS IN THE NEXT GENERATION.
SO OUR YOUTH GROUP IS HUGE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR YOUTH INVOLVED RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE THE STEWARDS OF OUR TRIBE, MY BROTHER AND I AND OUR TRIBAL MEMBERS OF OUR COUNCIL, ABOUT 12.
BUT WE'RE JUST THE STEWARDS RIGHT NOW. SO OUR YOUTH IS GETTING VERY INVOLVED UP NORTH AND TRYING TO DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING WHY WE'RE DOING A LOT OF EVENTS TO FUNDRAISE SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO MORE THINGS, DO MORE THINGS, BASICALLY, DO MORE THINGS FOR SURROUNDING CITIES HERE IN LA VERNE, IN SAN DIMAS, GLENDORA. SO WE DO OUR TRIBAL MEETINGS OUR PERSON IN PERSON TRIBAL MEETINGS AT SAN DIMAS CANYON PARK.
THAT'S WHERE WE DO A LOT OF OUR TRIBAL MEETINGS AND OUR YOUTH THEY THERE WAS A LOT OF BRUSH UP THERE IN THE SAN DIMAS CANYON, SO THEY CLEARED A LOT OF THAT BRUSH OUT AND PLANTED TREES.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO REVIVE, YOU KNOW, REVIVE A LOT OF THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR YOUTH IS DOING. SO FUNDS ARE ACTIVELY SOUGHT TO PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND THE YOUTH SCHOLARSHIP, ENSURING THE FUTURE LEADERS OF THE TRIBE AND CAN PURSUE HIGHER EDUCATION AND CONTINUE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT OUR MAIN CONCERN IS RIGHT NOW, GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK ONE WAS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT.
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SO. WHAT DO I GOT HERE? SO I THINK THAT'S IN GENERAL I DON'T WANT TO I ONLY WE ONLY HAVE SOME TIME A CERTAIN TIMES ALLOTTED.BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IN TERMS OF INTRODUCING WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT OUR CAUSE IS.
AND HOPEFULLY OUR NEXT GENERATION OF YOUTH IS GOING TO JUST TAKE THAT TORCH AND RUN WITH IT.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO MAYBE SOME EVENTS HERE IN LA VERNE OUR SURROUNDING CITIES.
AND WE CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY IN ANY WHICH WAY WE CAN.
YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M NOT DONE.
WELL, I'M DONE, BUT MY BROTHER'S NOT, SO. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[INAUDIBLE] MICHAEL AND RENEE OLIVA. I'M JUST SAYING, I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE.
SO PROUD TO BE STANDING HERE WITH YOU. I MUST SPEAK OF MY MOTHER BECAUSE WHEN SHE WAS PUSHING THIS FORWARD TO HER BROTHERS AND TO HER OLDER UNCLES, INCLUDING HER FATHER, NO ONE WANTED TO COME FORWARD WITH THIS.
IT WAS NOT A GOOD THING BACK THEN TO BE AN INDIAN.
YOU COULD BE EASILY LYNCHED OR YOUR CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU.
IT WOULD NOT END WELL. AND THIS IS WHAT BROUGHT MANY OF MY ANCESTORS DOWN HERE TO HIDE AND TO BECOME A MEXICANO, TO LEARN THE LANGUAGE AND TO BLEND IN AND TO LEARN A NEW SKILL.
THESE WERE FISHERMEN. THESE WERE BOAT BUILDERS WHO LEARNED ALL ABOUT CATTLE, WHO LEARNED ALL ABOUT HORSES AND TOOK IT TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL AND OPENED UP A WHOLE NEW AVENUE OF PROSPERITY FOR THEM. BUT IMAGINE IF YOU HAD TO PULL OUT THIS BEAUTIFUL TOWN HERE AND END UP SOMEWHERE IN THE DESERT.
SO I THINK NOW OF HER AND ALL THAT SHE HAD GONE THROUGH HERE WITH ONLY A HANDFUL OF SUPPORTERS OF OTHER BRAVE WOMEN, STOOD UP, EVEN AGAINST HER OWN FAMILY'S WILL, TO KEEP FORWARD AND TO HOLD ON TO OUR HERITAGE.
AND IT'S SO MUCH RICHER THAN I HAD ANY IDEA. HERE I AM IN MY 70S NOW, AND I'M STILL LEARNING SO MUCH ABOUT OUR CULTURE AND WHAT WE DID AND HOW WE WORKED TOGETHER. BUT I CAN FOLLOW THAT TRACK FROM HERE TO SAN GABRIEL.
IN FACT, THERE WAS EVEN FIRST A LITTLE CHURCH ALONG ARROW HIGHWAY.
AND THERE IS A DEPICTION OF THAT IN SAN FRANCISCO CITY HALL.
AND SOME OF OUR COUSINS EVEN DANCED INSIDE THERE.
MAYBE, IN HINDSIGHT, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SO FRIENDLY TO INVITE THE SPANISH IN.
AND MAYBE WE LET THOSE GUYS GO. BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY OUR PEOPLE WERE.
IF YOU'RE IN NEED, YOU'RE HURTING. WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU.
AND ALONG THOSE LINES WAS WHAT BROUGHT US INTO THE CULTURE OF THE BIRTH CEREMONY.
MANY PEOPLE IN OUR TRIBE ARE DEVOUTLY CHRISTIAN, SO THEY GET CONFLICTED.
BUT THIS IS ALL ABOUT HELPING OTHER PEOPLE, EVEN THOSE WHO ARE STRANGERS.
WHETHER THEY'RE WHITE, BLACK, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THEY'RE ALL PART OF THE HUMAN RACE, ALL PART OF THE SAME TRIBE.
AND YOU HAVE A DUTY TO HELP THEM. EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM. YOU HAVE A DUTY TO STILL HELP THEM, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT HAVE OFFENDED YOU. DON'T LIKE MUST HELP THE WAR TO BE EVEN GREATER.
MY EAGLE WING WAS GIVEN TO ME WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN, IS ACTUALLY FROM A CHEYENNE MEDICINE WOMAN, AND THAT WAS PASSED DOWN TO RAYMOND STONE, WHO HAS HIS MOTHER HAD A DREAM OF BRINGING BACK BEAR CEREMONY.
GENERALLY, THERE'S A WING MAN AND A BEAR THAT WORK AS A TEAM.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO HELP THESE PEOPLE DURING A CERTAIN SEASON. NOW IS THE WINTER.
SO OUR BEARS ARE ASLEEP. WING IS COVERED. THEIR SONGS ARE NO LONGER SUNG UNTIL SPRING.
SO ALL OF THIS IS FOR ALL HUMAN BEINGS. ALL PEOPLE.
SOMETIMES EVEN OUR OWN TRIBE. THERE CAN BE PREJUDICE TOWARDS A BLACK INDIVIDUAL WHO'S MAYBE CHOCTAW OR CHEROKEE, BUT HE HAS EARNED HIS BEAR. THERE'S A GREAT RITUAL TO GO THROUGH A FASTING, A COMMITMENT TO GET THAT BARE SKIN OR TO CARRY THAT WEIGHT.
HE SAID, ALL PEOPLE. SO HE'S A BEAR AND HIS HEART IS GOOD.
I HAVE COUSINS WHO HEARTS IS NOT GOOD. SO THIS YOUNG BLACK MAN DANCED WITH US.
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ROGER WAS HIS NAME. I WANT TO THINK OF THAT AS WELL TO, BEING ACCEPTING OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFERENT FROM YOURSELF HERE.HE'S BEEN NOTHING BUT A GREAT FRIEND TO US AND ALLY.
HE'S THE ONE WHO LED ME TO BERKELEY. THERE IS A WHOLE LINGUISTICS CENTER ABOUT OUR LANGUAGE THANKS TO A WHITE MAN, PETE HARRINGTON, WHO DONATED HIS LIFE TO PRESERVE SUCH LANGUAGES.
HE DIED IN OBSCURITY, POOR AND SICK, GIVING HIS HEALTH AND LIFE.
SO I COULD SPEAK A FEW WORDS TO YOU TONIGHT. MANY PEOPLE CONNECT US ALL TOGETHER.
EVEN THE LOGO BEHIND ME CANNOT HELP FILL MY HEART.
MY GRANDFATHER WOULD HAVE US GO THROUGH THAT ORCHARD, WOULD RIDE ON THE FENDERS OF HIS TRACTOR RACKET AIRFIELD, FILLED ME WITH GREAT DREAMS OF BEING A PILOT AND OF COURSE, LA VERNE UNIVERSITY.
WE LEARNED TO READ THERE FROM THESE PEOPLE WHO SEEMED VERY OLD BUT WISE.
BUT I WAS JUST TELLING THEM THEY JUST NEED A LITTLE SNOW UP ON TOP.
SO THE WINDOW OF HER KITCHEN FACED IT AMONGST SAN ANTONIO.
SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I DON'T THINK I WILL EVER FORGET THIS. AND I KNOW WHEREVER MY PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS ARE NOW, THEY'RE SMILING RIGHT NOW HERE, SEEING THIS TURN OF EVENTS HERE BEING ACCEPTED LIKE THIS.
THANK YOU. IN OUR LANGUAGE, WE DON'T HAVE A GOODBYE OR ANYTHING, BUT WE HAVE KIND OF LIKE A BEST WISHES ON YOUR JOURNEY.
IT'S A VERY SIMPLE WORD. [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND FEEL FREE TO, YOU KNOW, ARCADIA.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. COME ON. I GREW UP IN ARCADIA.
LA VERNE IS A MUCH BETTER PLACE, I AGREE. BUT SERIOUSLY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME ANYTIME AND SET US UP WITH OUR CITY MANAGEMENT, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION. TO DO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO TO COME.
AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE HERE. YES, YES.
PLEASE COME. PLEASE COME, COME. OH. HERE. LET ME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU AGAIN, RENEE AND MICHAEL. I APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR FATHER'S SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER 30 YEARS, SO THANK YOU. AND PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN DOOR IN LA VERNE.
EVERYBODY'S WELCOME HERE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT WAS VERY, VERY POETIC.
AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT IS THE CITY FINANCIAL INVESTMENT UPDATE, A PRESENTATION BY SHUSTER ADVISORY GROUP, LLC, THE CITY'S INVESTMENT ADVISOR ON THE CITY'S INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO AND RELATED FINANCIAL CONSULTING SERVICES.
FINANCE DIRECTOR LOPEZ, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING. TONIGHT SCHUSTER ADVISORY GROUP IS GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POSITION, AS WELL AS JUST HOW THEY'VE HELPED US OVER THE YEARS.
WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHRISTY. I'M MARK SCHUSTER. THIS IS MICHAEL GONZALEZ.
LA VERNE WAS A CLIENT MANY YEARS AGO AND HAS BEEN A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH BOTH KEN JR.
AND YOU HAVE ONE OF THE FINEST FINANCE DIRECTORS AROUND, AND CHRISTY, SHE'S AMAZING.
SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO I DID IT, I HIT THE RIGHT BUTTON.
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A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY. THERE'S A CODE IN CALIFORNIA CALLED 53600.3.AND WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT EVERY ASSET OF A CITY.
THE CITY IS A FIDUCIARY. YOU'RE A TRUSTEE OF THOSE ASSETS.
PERFECT. I WILL BEND DOWN. YOU CAN PULL IT UP.
IT'LL GOES UP. IT'LL PICK. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY.
SOUNDS PERFECT. SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU. AND SO AGAIN, 53600.3 OF THE CODE, THE DIFFERENT SERVICES ALONG THE LINES OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES PLETHORA OF ASSET CLASSES THAT CITIES HAVE, INCLUDING YOUR CASH, YOUR BONDS AND YOUR 115 TRUST.
THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT, CITIES AND AGENCIES, INCLUDING, SADLY ARCADIA, MAYOR.
BUT WE LOVE IT'S, OKAY. WE LOVE ARCADIA ONCE IN APACHE, ALWAYS IN APACHE.
RIGHT. SO THAT ARCADIA. AND THEN THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK IS INTERESTING TO ALL OF YOU IN THE ROOM BECAUSE THESE ARE THE MAJOR ASSET CLASSES IN THE MARKETS IN THE LAST 12 YEARS, RANKING FROM WHAT HAS DONE WELL TO AVERAGE TO POORLY OVER TIME.
IT HAS TURNED OUT WELL FINANCIALLY BUT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY VOLATILE, INCLUDING SIX YEARS AGO, PRE-PANDEMIC TO WHERE THE MARKETS WERE CALM, INTEREST RATES WERE LOW, COMPANIES WERE PROFITABLE, HOUSES WERE BOOMING. AND THEN 2020 HIT. AND THEN AFTER 2020, WE OBVIOUSLY WENT TO 2022 WITH THE WAR IN UKRAINE.
AND SO MANAGING THAT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN CRITICAL.
IT IS CRITICAL THAT YOU'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THE BALL AT ALL TIMES.
AND SO FIRST I'M GOING TO BRING MICHAEL TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE HERE IN THE CITY IN YOUR GENERAL ACCOUNT THAT BOTH COMBINE BONDS, CDS, CASH IN DIFFERENT INSTRUMENTS AND ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE FED RIGHT NOW.
HI. NICE TO BE HERE TODAY. SO AS MARK SHARED, THE INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN VOLATILE.
EXPECTATIONS HAVE CHANGED IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
WE'VE HAD TWO CUTS THEMSELVES. AND CHAIRMAN POWELL SHARED THAT THE DECEMBER CUT WAS NOT A FOREGONE CONCLUSION, WHICH HAS LED TO SOME VOLATILITY IN THE RATE MARKET. THE PORTFOLIO HERE, THOUGH, IS A HIGH QUALITY PORTFOLIO CONSTRUCTED FROM US TREASURIES, US AGENCY BONDS AND INVESTMENT GRADE CORPORATE BONDS.
SO IF WE'RE IN AN ENVIRONMENT NOW WHERE YOU CAN CAPTURE LOW FOURS FROM INVESTMENT GRADE CORPORATES LOW TO MID FOURS, FROM MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITIES FROM US AGENCIES AND WHEN YOU HAVE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT, YOU'RE REALLY AIMING TO CAPTURE RELATIVE VALUE.
OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO BE COMPENSATED FOR THE RISK WE'RE TAKING.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, NOT ONLY THE BOND PORTFOLIO BUT ON THE 115.
YIELD TO WORST 3.84. REALLY WHAT YOU'VE LOCKED IN AS A RETURN.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT'S YOUR RETURN OVER THE MATURITY OF THAT BOND PORTFOLIO.
AND AS YOU SEE HERE, DURATION OF 2.2% OR 2.2 YEARS, MEANS YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO BENEFIT FROM AN INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU HAVE DECREASING RATES. THE NEXT, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE YOUR 115 TRUST.
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AND SO THAT'S CRITICAL WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOW YOU'RE HEDGING AGAINST THAT.AND THE PORTFOLIOS ARE INVESTED MODERATELY 60% EQUITIES AND 40% FIXED INCOME.
BUT YOU CAN NOTE HERE UP ON THE SLIDE YOU CAN SEE THE PERFORMANCE.
AND THE PERFORMANCE HAS BEEN EXCEPTIONAL SINCE INCEPTION OVER 13% PER YEAR AND A 60 OVER 40.
AND WE'VE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE FIXED INCOME PAYING HIGH INTEREST RIGHT NOW AT 5, 06, 7%.
AND THOSE BENCHMARKS ARE RANGING FROM ABOUT 5.75 TO 6.8.
THE 6.8 IS WHAT CALPERS SHOOTS FOR ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
YOU HAVE EXCEEDED THAT NUMBER. AND OF COURSE, CALPERS ENDING 630 DID ABOUT 11%.
SO THE CITY HAS DONE EXTREMELY WELL AS FAR AS FUNDING ITS FUTURE LIABILITIES.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. I'M LIKING IT. KEEP GOING.
WONDERFUL. WELL, WE'RE YOU'RE IN A TERRIFIC POSITION, AND YOU'VE BEEN EXTREMELY DISCIPLINED IN THE WAY YOU'VE GONE ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER AN INVESTMENT POLICY STATEMENT AND BLENDING THE DIFFERENT ASSETS THAT THE CITY CONTROLS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF YOU. JUST A STATEMENT JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 2018 BEFORE WENDY.
OUR TIME WHERE REALLY INVESTED IN THIS FOR OUR PENSION ENGINE TO TO MAKE SURE AND BE WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A LOT BETTER THAN A LOT OF CITIES AROUND US.
SO AND THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR HELPING US GET THERE AS WELL.
AND IT'S WORKING FOR US A LITTLE RIGHT NOW TO HELP US IN THE LONG RUN.
MR. JOHNSON. I WOULD ECHO CROSBY REMARKS, AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR US.
THE BODY IS HERE TO MAKE MONEY THIS WAY THAN TRY TO RAISE WATER RATES.
THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT WAS. COUNCIL MEMBER LAU.
MAYOR PRO TEM KASH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. STACY, YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME TEAM THERE.
CONTINUE TO DO GOOD. AND SHOW ME THE MONEY, MAN.
AND MY BIGGEST THING WAS LOOKING EVERY SINGLE MONTH AT OUR INVESTMENT POOL GOING, WHY, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? AND I KNOW WHEN YOU CAME ON BOARD, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN NOW, HOW MANY YEARS? AND.
TWO YEARS IN THIS FOR THE INVESTMENT POOL. AND I THINK ABOUT 7 OR 8 AND A FEW OF THE OTHER AREAS.
BUT THEN WHEN WE WENT TO DO OUR FUNDS AND START SHIFTING THEM AROUND AND THOSE EXTRA MONIES RIGHT NOW IN OUR SITUATION WITH OUR CITY COMES IN SO HANDY, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR GENERAL FUND AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB CONSIDERING THE MARKET HAS BEEN VERY VOLATILE, LIKE YOU SAY, BUT I'M TICKLED TO DEATH BECAUSE WE WERE MAKING ZERO.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE WERE MAKING NEGATIVE.
AND TO SEE OUR MONEY'S BEING USED IN THIS WAY TO FUND NOT ONLY THE UNFORTUNATE THING WITH CALPERS, WHICH THEY MAY HAVE 11%, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE A 15% LOSS, AND WE HAVE TO PAY ALL THAT, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING INSTEAD OF TAKING IT OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR THAT DOWN THE ROAD. SO THIS WAS WAS A REALLY GREAT IDEA.
AND I DO THANK CHRISTY AND OUR MANAGEMENT ALSO FOR PUSHING YOU GUYS.
JUST KEEP UP THE WORK. AND IF WE COULD GET THAT 13% TO LIKE 35%, WE'D BE REALLY GOOD.
BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AND I APPRECIATE IT.
EVEN WITH THE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET, IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR US AND KEEP ROLLING ON.
YOU GUYS CAN SIT DOWN. IT'S A PRESENTATION. WE DON'T NEED TO.
OH, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.
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THAT WAS EASY. OKAY. NOW WE MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING COMMUNITY EVENTS.[ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING COMMUNITY EVENTS ]
I HAVE A COUPLE NAMES. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THANK YOU.GENTLEMEN. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT OUR VETERANS, HONORING OUR VETERANS ON THE 11TH WAS EXCELLENT.
I DON'T KNOW, EVERY YEAR IT GETS BETTER AND BETTER.
AND BASICALLY, THEY PUT IN OUR CANINE, OUR MILITARY CANINE DOG, WHICH WAS JUST AMAZING.
BUT IT WAS GREAT. THEY DID A GREAT JOB. THE BAND OF BROTHERS.
THEY JUST DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB. SO, WITH THAT, I HAVE JOSH GOLDMAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
IT'S A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW. I DON'T HAVE THAT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
45% JOSH, I'M GLAD I DIDN'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON, AND I COULDN'T READ ANY OF THE LITTLE SQUARES, BUT I'M HAPPY FOR YOU GUYS. I'M MAKING IT BETTER TO MAKE MONEY THAN TO LOSE MONEY.
SO. YES. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JOSH GOLDMAN.
I'M THE BOARD CHAIR FOR THE LA VERNE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I'M WEARING MY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAT TODAY. I'M NOT HERE TO TALK TRASH WITH ANY OF YOU.
IF ANYBODY HAS ISSUES WITH THEIR TRASH SERVICE, I'LL BE EXITING PROMPTLY.
JUST KIDDING. I'LL HANG AROUND OUTSIDE FOR A SECOND. ANYWAYS, I'M HERE WITH SOME UPDATES.
ON DECEMBER 4TH, WE HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING AT LA VERNE HEIGHTS AT LA PALOMA.
WE HAVE SOME COLLATERAL AT THE CHAMBER OFFICE THAT JUST ARRIVED. IT WAS A LITTLE BACK ORDERED FROM. WE PARTNERED WITH AMERICAN EXPRESS, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE SEEING THOSE AROUND TOWN. JUST REMEMBER TO GET OUT AND SHOP.
EVERYTHING YOU SPEND LOCALLY COMES BACK TO THE CITY.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY UNIQUE STORES THAT ARE ONLY HERE IN TOWN.
YEAH. COME TAKE A STROLL. HIT FOOTHILL, HIT DOWNTOWN.
LA VERNE. YEAH, WE'D LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS GET OUT AND SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
ADDITIONALLY, WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 10TH, WE HAVE OUR HOLIDAY LUNCHEON.
TICKETS ARE $45 A PERSON. IT'LL BE FROM 12 TO 3 P.M..
I'M. IT'S, THE NAME'S ESCAPING ME RIGHT NOW. WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.
I'LL CIRCLE BACK TO THAT. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, I KNOW EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT TASTE OF LA VERNE TASTE OF LA VERNE WAS POSTPONED, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ANOTHER EVENT, HOPEFULLY.
IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON MARCH 4TH. IT'S GOING TO BE TOAST OF THE TOWN. IT'S GOING TO BE SIMILAR TO WHAT TASTE OF LA VERNE IS, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT SOME LOCAL STORES LOCAL YOU KNOW, BREWERIES, BEVERAGE PLACES AND RESTAURANTS IN TOWN.
SO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THAT. TICKETS ARE GOING TO BE $65 A PERSON AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
CAN YOU PLEASE GET THAT INFORMATION REGARDING THE DOWNTOWN AND THE UPTOWN, THE SHOPPING, CAN YOU PLEASE GET THAT TO US? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON A ON THAT YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL? THAT'S, IT'S GOT A IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE BUSINESSES, THE FLIERS.
YEAH. PLEASE. YOU CAN PUT SOME ON THE FRONT DESK HERE, BUT ALSO WE CAN THROW IT OUT TO SOCIAL MEDIA.
ABSOLUTELY. DEFINITELY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. JOSH. ADRIAN ROMERO.
GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A FEW EVENTS THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE AT LA VERNE LIBRARY. IN HONOR OF NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, WE'LL BE HOLDING A PROGRAM THIS SATURDAY AT 2 P.M.
AFTER THE PRESENTATION, CHILDREN WILL BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO CREATE THEIR OWN SUNFLOWERS FROM ART MATERIALS. AND FROM DECEMBER 5TH UNTIL JANUARY 9TH, WE'LL BE HOLDING SMART START STORYTIMES FOR AGES 2 TO 5 ON FRIDAYS AT 11.
REGISTRATION FOR THESE EVENTS CAN BE FOUND ONLINE AT LACOUNTYLIBRARY.ORG.
AND ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 13TH AT 2 P.M., WE'LL BE HOLDING A MUSICAL PROGRAM CONDUCTED BY A MEMBER OF THE LOS ANGELES PHILHARMONIC VIOLINISTS, PAUL STEIN WOULD PERFORM BEAUTIFUL SONGS OF THE HOLIDAYS AND TELL STORIES ABOUT MUSICIANS AND COMPOSERS.
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IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE MIC AND THEN COME UP TO THE COUNCIL. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS COUNCIL? CITY MANAGER ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON TO, WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.[CONSENT CALENDAR ]
ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. UNLESS A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE REQUESTS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION, OR JUST WANTS TO MAKE A STATEMENT AT ONE OF THE ITEMS. COUNCIL ANY REQUEST TO PULL ANY ITEMS? YES.THAT WAS IT. OH, OKAY. YOU DON'T WANT TO PULL IT.
YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON IT. OKAY. ORGANIZED.
MR. GILMER, ANY OTHER? MR. MAYOR NO ITEMS WERE PULLED BY THE PUBLIC.
VERY GOOD. WITH THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND. VOTE, PLEASE.
CONSENT CALENDAR WAS MOVED BY CROSBY. SECONDED BY LAU AND APPROVED 5-0.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARINGS. TONIGHT THERE ARE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[ PUBLIC HEARINGS]
FIRST IS THE CEQA EXEMPTION DETERMINATIONS AND APPROVING UPDATES AND ANNUAL COST INCREASES TO THE VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES.I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE CITY MANAGER. PLEASE CALL FOR THE STAFF MEMBER WHO WILL BE REPORTING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS ONE, THOUGH I DO WANT TO, AND I THINK SHE'S PROBABLY AT HER DESK.
OH, THERE SHE IS. I WANT TO THANK ANDREA FOR TAKING A VERY BIG LEAD ON THIS.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG HAUL OF A PROJECT. I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMETIME LAST YEAR THAT CITY COUNCIL AWARDED DAVID TAUSSIG AND ASSOCIATES TO CONDUCT THIS DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE STUDY. AND AS THEY GO FORWARD AND AS WHAT'S STATED IN THE AGENDA AB 602, WHICH WAS RECENTLY PASSED AND ENACTED BY THE STATE, NOW REQUIRES THAT CITIES, AT LEAST EVERY EIGHT YEARS DO A NEXUS STUDY FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES. THIS IS THE FIRST NEXUS STUDY THAT THE CITY HAS DONE.
AND SO, THIS WILL BE ANOTHER ITEM NO LATER THAN EIGHT YEARS.
SO TONIGHT WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FINANCE, DTA OR DAVID TAUSSIG AND ASSOCIATES.
I BELIEVE RICHARD RUIZ IS ON THE LINE AND WE'LL LET THEM GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
AND THEN AT THE END THERE CAN BE HE AND CITY STAFF ARE AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS.
RICHARD, WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU. I'M NOT. WE SEE THAT YOU'RE UNMUTED.
ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. ALL RIGHT, I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.
I WILL START AGAIN. MY NAME IS RICHARD RUIZ. MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL STAFF. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I'M HERE WITH MY ASSOCIATE, LENNY ZARATE, AND WE'RE WITH DAVID TAUSSIG AND ASSOCIATES.
AND WE WERE RETAINED TO UPDATE YOUR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE STUDIES AND PUT THIS NEXT STUDY TOGETHER.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. IF WE CAN GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE.
PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO START IS TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS.
THINGS LIKE ROADS, SCHOOLS, PARKS AND OTHER AREAS THAT ARE MADE NECESSARY BY GROWTH.
AND THE FEES HELP OFFSET THE INCREASED COST TO THE COMMUNITY FROM NEW PROJECTS.
AND PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN THIS IS WITH AN EXAMPLE.
THESE ARE ALL POSITIVE THINGS TO THE CITY. YOU HAVE NEW RESIDENTS, YOU HAVE NEW EMPLOYEES, SALES TAX, PROPERTY TAX, JOBS AND SO ON. IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE CITY'S GDP.
BUT THIS ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT ALSO GENERATES NEGATIVE EXTERNALITY, WHICH IS NORMAL WHEN YOU DEVELOP.
YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL WEAR AND TEAR ON ROADS, SEWER, STORM DRAINS.
YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL CALLS FOR POLICE FIRE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.
AND GENERATING THESE FEES, IT'S ALWAYS A DELICATE BALANCE.
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WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE NEED TO GENERATE REVENUE WITHOUT DISCOURAGING DEVELOPMENT.AND THAT'S A TOUGH THING TO DO. AND THAT'S THE REASON WE PUT THIS NEXUS STUDY TOGETHER.
THERE'S CERTAIN LAWS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. AB 1600, DOMAIN ONE AB 602 IS THE SECOND ONE.
THESE ARE THE FEES WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED IN OVER A DECADE WHICH MEANS THAT THE FEES GENERATED RIGHT NOW ARE BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND LAND USES AND FACILITIES COSTS FROM OVER A DECADE AGO. THAT'S THE BIG REASON TO UPDATE THESE FEES.
YOU'RE LEAVING, PUTTING LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE.
WE HAVE A NEW ADMINISTRATION, THE ADMINISTRATION, A NEW POLICE FEE.
WE'RE UPDATING FIRE PARK, STORM DRAIN AND UNDERGROUNDING.
AND THAT'S WHAT OUR FEE STUDY IS. AND IT'S A LARGE.
SEEMS TO BE A TECHNICAL DOCUMENT, BUT I'LL GO OVER IT AS WE GO ALONG.
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT FEE WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CITY CAN PROVIDE TO US.
SO WE TOOK THE FIRST 4 FEES HERE CITY ADMINISTRATION, POLICE, FIRE, PARKS.
FOR, LET'S SAY, FIRE FOR, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS PER RESIDENT OR PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, VEHICLES, LAND EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH. AND WE PROJECT THAT OUT AND WE LOOK AT AND WE SAY, WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS SAME STANDARD, WHAT IS THE FEE THAT WE NEED TO TO USE? AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST DEFENSIBLE.
WE DO IT MATHEMATICALLY AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN OUR REPORT.
IT'S A LARGE REPORT WITH AN APPENDIX AT THE END.
AND AS WE LIKE TO SAY, IT'S ONE OF THOSE DOCUMENTS.
YOU COULD ACTUALLY SIT DOWN WITH A CUP OF COFFEE ON A SATURDAY MORNING AND THE CALCULATOR, AND YOU CAN RUN THROUGH THE FEES AND COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT, AND YOU CAN FOLLOW IT FAIRLY EASILY.
THE SECOND METHODOLOGY WE USE FOR PLAN BASED, SO THE CITY GIVES US ACTUALLY A LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD, CALL IT A NEEDS LIST, AND WE BASE THE PLAN OR WE BASE THE FEES ON EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THAT PLAN.
SO WE HAVE A COMBINATION OF METHODOLOGIES IN THIS STUDY.
LET ME GO TO THE NEXT STUDY. NOW THE NEXT PAGE.
WE DO A LOT OF RESEARCH INTO THE CITY. WE LOOK AT HOW MANY RESIDENTS YOU HAVE, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES, GUESTS, VISITORS AND SO FORTH. FOR STORM DRAINS.
IT'S A LITTLE MORE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED.
WE PRESENT IT IN THE STUDY. WE GO LINE BY LINE.
AND ALL OF THIS IS EXPLAINED IN DETAIL IN OUR STUDY.
YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. AND THESE ARE THE FEES THAT WE GENERATED.
THESE ARE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE FEES WHEN WE DO THIS NEXT STUDY LET'S LOOK AT THE YOU KNOW POLICE.
THAT IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT YOU COULD CHARGE $0.89.
YOU CAN CHARGE $0.59. $0.49, WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOUR CITY.
THESE ARE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT, AND IT'S BETTER TO HIRE, OR IT'S BETTER TO GENERATE A FEE LEVEL THAT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS BRING IT DOWN. YOU CAN'T GO THE OPPOSITE WAY.
SO THIS TABLE PRESENTS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE FEES FOR EACH OF THE LAND USES.
GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS KIND OF AN ADJUSTED FEE STUDY.
SAME THING FOR COMMERCIAL AND ALL THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL CATEGORIES.
SO IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN RIGHT THERE. SO IT'S THE SAME.
IT'S THE SAME FEE STUDY. BUT THE CITY HAS ADJUSTED THE CITY ADMINISTRATION RATE.
FOR THE NEXT ONE. AND HERE'S A COMPARISON OF YOUR CITY.
THIS IS KIND OF AN IMPORTANT CHART. IT'S A COMPARISON OF YOUR CITY WITH THE SURROUNDING CITIES.
WE LOOKED AT THEIR THREE LEVELS, AND WE LOOKED AT YOURS. FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE, THAT'S KIND OF A BASIC UNIT CALLED AN EQUIVALENT DWELLING UNIT, THAT'S A BASIC WAY TO COMPARE. THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM YOU CAN SEE IT'S 26,000 AND SOME DOLLARS.
THE CITY HAS ADJUSTED THAT TO 22,414. SO IF YOU LOOK ACROSS YOU'RE KIND OF MIDWAY.
YOU'RE KIND OF IN THE KIND OF IN THE MIX MIDWAY THROUGH THE THE OTHER COST LEVELS.
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AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE DEVELOPER MAY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO I WANT TO BUILD, WHAT'S THE BEST PLACE TO GO WHERE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONSIDERATIONS THEY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. BUT THIS IS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THEM.RIGHT, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE THE FINDINGS IN OUR UPDATE.
PER AB 602, THE IMPACT FEES ARE TO BE CALCULATED BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE PROPOSED UNITS RATHER THAN PER UNIT, THE WAY THEY USED TO BE. AND WE WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY ADOPT AN ANNUAL COST ESCALATOR TO THE FEE BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION INDEX.
AND THAT'S UP TO THE CITY, WHETHER THEY DO THAT OR NOT AND HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO DO IT, BUT IT ALLOWS YOU TO KEEP PACE WITH THE COST OF LIVING, AND IT PREVENTS STICKER SHOCK FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THIS IS DONE AGAIN.
IF YOU MAY, IF YOU COULD PROCEED TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. PUBLIC HEARING.
THEY CAN JUST CONTACT ME AND I WILL GET BACK TO THEM. AS I MENTIONED, IT'S A VERY LONG STUDY, BUT YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND GO PAGE BY PAGE WITH A CALCULATOR AND YOU CAN RUN THE NUMBERS YOURSELF IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR WHERE WE GOT THE ASSUMPTIONS JUST ASK.
IT'S AS I SAID, THE REPORT'S BROKEN INTO A INTRODUCTION OF DEMOGRAPHICS, METHODOLOGY AND THEN A SPECIFIC SECTION, A SEPARATE SECTION FOR EACH OF THE FEE CATEGORIES, AND THEN A SUMMARY AT THE END AND A AND A SECTION ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT THEM.
SO THAT IS BASICALLY THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU RICHARD.
SURE. WE'RE GOING TO GO AND OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
IF ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS, PLEASE COME TO THE MIC. ANYBODY ON.
WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT UP TO THE DAIS.
COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY. YES. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THIS IS FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT WHAT IF A RESIDENT WANTS TO ADD AN ADU OR EXTENSION ONTO THEIR HOUSE? DO THOSE, THESE FEES GO ALONG WITH THAT AS WELL, OR IS IT JUST BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT OF AN OPEN LAND PROPERTY? NO IN CALIFORNIA YOU DON'T CHARGE ANY DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES UP TO 750FT².
LET'S SAY YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD AN ADU AND IT'S 500FT².
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. OH, SO ABOVE THE 750FT.
YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. I WAS JUST NOTICING THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE HERE FOR LA VERNE. AT 13,000 IT'S THE SAME AS UPLAND. THE CITIES DON'T QUITE MATCH UP. YEAH. AND CLAREMONT IS A MUCH LOWER NUMBER AS WELL.
SO, IF I MAY, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DO IS YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL COMPARING CITIES TO CITIES.
I MEAN, I KNOW DEVELOPERS DO LOOK AT IT, BUT EACH CITY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. YOU MAY HAVE A CITY THAT'S BUILT OUT, COMPLETELY BUILT OUT. THERE'S NOT A LOT TO BILL, SO THE FEES MAY BE LOW; AND YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER CITY NEXT DOOR THAT'S GROWING TREMENDOUSLY. THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD SEVERAL FIRE STATIONS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, A NEW CITY HALL AT ANOTHER POLICE STATION BY A BUNCH OF POLICE CRUISERS.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF REAL BIG EXPENSES COMING UP OVER THE NEXT DECADE OR SO.
AND THOSE IMPACT FEES ARE GOING TO BE MUCH HIGHER. THAT'S ONE POINT.
THE SECOND POINT IS WE DON'T HAVE OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEAD IS WHEN WERE THOSE WHEN WERE THOSE FEES GENERATED? ARE THEY IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THEM RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT THAT.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER ON THAT LAST POINT NOW THAT AB 602 AND IT HAS THAT EIGHT YEAR REQUIREMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING A LOT MORE CITIES GOING THROUGH AND UPDATING THEIR FEES.
AND SO THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THAT LOOKING AT THAT NEXUS.
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SO WASN'T THAT 2023 THAT IT CAME ON BOARD? WAS IT 2023 WHEN THEY INSTITUTED THIS? WAS IT. IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. YEAH. YEAH, IT WAS 2023.AND IF YOU LOOKED AT OUR CURRENT FEES, OUR CURRENT FEES WOULD BE MUCH LOWER THAN THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE NOW, WHERE IT COULD BE COMPARABLE TO WHAT CLAREMONT IS RIGHT NOW.
YEAH. YEAH. AND THEN IN THE LEGAL SECTION, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION SECTION OF OUR REPORT OF OUR STUDY, WE DO HAVE A SECTION THAT OUTLINES THE IMPORTANT POINTS IN AB 602.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT YOU COULD ALWAYS CONTACT US. IT'S NEW.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
SO IT JUST KIND OF BEING GRADUALLY IMPLEMENTED NOW.
COUNCIL MEMBER LAU. SO I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT AND I'M LOOKING AT THE REPORT YOU KNOW, INDICATING THE REGIONAL COMPARISONS. AND WHAT YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED IS THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CALL OUT SO THAT WE DON'T LOOK AT THIS OR THAT DEVELOPERS AREN'T LOOKING AT THIS SAYING, WELL, WHY IS IT SO HIGH IN THIS CITY AND NOT IN ANOTHER CITY? SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE IN THE PRESENTATION IN THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS WHEN WE DO THIS AGAIN.
RIGHT, THAT'S ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT HAVING A NEXUS STUDY. SOMEBODY MAY ASK YOU, OKAY, DEFEND THIS OR WHY ARE YOUR FEE LEVELS THE WAY THEY ARE? YOU HAVE THAT NOW, A CITY THAT MAY HAVE DONE ONE.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF NEXUS STUDIES FOR CITIES WHO HAVEN'T DONE THEM IN 25 YEARS, FROM 25 YEARS AGO, AND THEY CAN'T DEFEND THEM BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY CAME FROM.
RIGHT, I MEAN, I'D BE CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, WHO IS BUILT OUT, WHO IS NOT BUILT OUT. WHAT ARE THE OTHER FACTORS AFFECTING THEIR CHOICES IN, IN WHAT THEY'RE INCREASING THEIR FEES TO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITY MANAGER EARLIER TODAY JUST TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GO TO THE MAXIMUM FEES IN THIS INSTANCE.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, THERE IS AN APPEAL FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME AND BUILD HERE RATHER THAN SOMEPLACE ELSE, BUT ALSO WANTED ASSURANCES THAT THAT NUMBER REFLECTED A STEADY INCREASE OVER THE EIGHT-YEAR PERIOD.
AND THAT'S NOT A STAGNANT NUMBER. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DOES ACCOUNT FOR AN INCREASE.
IS THAT RIGHT? MR. DOMER. CORRECT. YEAH. THAT'S THE LAST RECOMMENDATION IS TO PROVIDE THE CONSTRUCTION, THE CALIFORNIA CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX AS THAT ADJUSTOR EVERY YEAR.
SO KIND OF A CPI, BUT BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT IS THE. WHAT IS THE. WHAT IS THAT. WHAT IS THAT RATE GENERALLY.
WHAT'S IT BEEN? AS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CPI. RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A COUPLE POINTS.
BUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO DURING THE COVID EPIDEMIC, WE HAD THAT LARGE INFLATION.
YOU HAD SOME OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION RATES WERE UP ABOUT 8 OR 9%.
AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHAT WE DO IS WE RECOMMEND THE CITY TO HAVE A ROLLING INDEX, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEAR INDEX. AND THAT'LL THAT KIND OF SMOOTHS IT DOWN BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, JACK SOMETHING UP 8 OR 9% IF YOU HAVE A BAD YEAR.
SO YOU CAN USE A ROLLING INDEX, A FIVE, SEVEN YEAR INDEX.
AND THEN THE OTHER POINT I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP FOR THOSE THAT WERE PAYING ATTENTION ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE REPORT FROM STAFF PRIOR TO THE RESOLUTION IN THE AGENDA, IT DOES INDICATE THAT THE DRAFT NEXUS STUDY DID POST NOTICES IN OCTOBER.
AND IT DID SEND INFORMATION OUT TO REPRESENTATIVES FROM SOCAL GAS, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON, AND THE BIA OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. AND IT SAYS AS OF NOVEMBER 11TH, THERE'S A BLANK FOR NUMBER OF COMMENTS RECEIVED.
AND I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT NO COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. THAT IS CORRECT.
YES. THANK YOU. AND JUST, MR. MAYOR JUST QUICKLY GOOGLED THIS, BUT YES, IT WAS 2.3% THE CALIFORNIA CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX FOR 2024, BUT IT WAS 9.4 IN 2023 AND 9.3 IN 2022.
SO. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM KASH. THANK YOU MAYOR.
MY COLLEAGUES ASK THESE AMAZING QUESTIONS THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT. HOWEVER, I DO HAVE ONE.
ONE IS, WHEN ARE SUCH RATES GOING TO GO INTO EFFECT? SO THESE GENERALLY, I BELIEVE, RICHARD, IT'S 45 DAYS OR 60 DAYS.
60 DAYS. YES. YEAH. SO WE WILL UPDATE OUR WEBSITE AND GET ALL THAT INFORMATION OUT.
GO FOR IT. AND THEN OF COURSE, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT IS THE BIG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS AS THEY RECEIVE, THEY'LL HAVE THE NEW UPDATED FEES AFTER 60 DAYS FROM THE ADOPTION.
OKAY. JUST A, WE CHOSE A 51% ON THE CITY ADMINISTRATION FEE TO REDUCE IT, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT, SIR. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT ARE REALLY EXPANDING QUICKLY.
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YOU LOOK AT RANCHO CUCAMONGA AND I USE THAT ONE. IT'S A VERY LARGE CITY, BUT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, AND WHEN THEY HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS WHY THERE ARE 52,844.I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT IN THE SAME SITUATION WITH OUR SEWER AND WATER WHERE I DO LIKE THE FACT WE'RE REDUCING IT SOME, BUT I THINK 51% MIGHT BE A LITTLE DRASTIC. JUST WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE BUILDERS NOT COME TO BUILD IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT'S FIRST OF ALL. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO CAPTURE THIS MOVING FORWARD AS WE DO DEVELOPMENT.
WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT AS THEIR PROJECTED OF 4000 PLUS RESIDENTS AND ADDING TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE COSTS OF OUR BUILDINGS, THE COST OF OUR ADMINISTRATION, OUR CITY HALL AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
I DON'T WANT TO ALWAYS CATCH UP WITH THIS. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A THE CPI, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
WHICH WE FIND WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS AT ALL. THIS IS NEW.
WHAT WOULD WE, IF WE WERE TO DO, LIKE A 75% ON THE CITY ADMINISTRATION FACILITIES? WHAT WOULD THAT DO FOR OUR NEXUS AS FAR AS HOW NOT NEXUS, BUT THE RATE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR MAXIMUM IS 26,478 WITH OUR 51% REDUCTION IN OUR CITY ADMINISTRATION FACILITIES, IT'S 22,414.
LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO HIGH, BUT YET WE'RE PUTTING IN THINGS THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE, WHICH IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY, MR. RUIZ? WHAT'S THE 75%, LET'S SAY, OR A 75%? WHAT WOULD THAT BRING OUR TOTAL UP TO RECOMMENDED.
THAT WOULD BE. LET ME GET MY CALCULATOR. 5 4.67 575.
THAT'D BE $3.50. OKAY, WHAT'S THE . PER FOOT.
TOTAL IN THAT WHOLE CATEGORY IF WE RAISE IT, IF WE GO 75% INSTEAD OF 51% REDUCTION, WE GO BASICALLY 25% REDUCTION ON THE MAXIMUM? RICHARD, ARE WE USING THE SQUARE FOOT AS IT 1,754.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GET THAT QUESTION. WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'RE USING AS THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE? CAN YOU SEE THE SINGLE FAMILY? 1%. SO IT'S BASICALLY HALF OF THAT.
SO WHAT WAS IT? WE USED YOUR BUILDING PERMITS TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT, BUT THE AVERAGE WAS.
AND YEAH, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
I BELIEVE IT WAS 1740 FT². THANK YOU. YEAH. SO IT WOULD BE AROUND $6,135, $30 VERSUS SO. BUT IS THAT CALCULATED, AS YOU SAID PRIOR, THAT'S MINUS THE 750.
THAT WOULD BE ON NEW. SO YEAH. SO NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THE 750 WAS A CREDIT TOWARDS LIKE IF YOU'RE ADDING AN 800 SQUARE FOOT ADU OR AN ADDITION TO YOUR HOUSE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
SO WHAT WOULD IT BE IF WE WERE TO DO A 25% DECREASE ON THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT FOR THE CITY RECOMMENDED? RIGHT NOW THE MAXIMUM PROPOSAL IS 26,478. IF WE WENT TO, IF WE WENT 25% LESS ON THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? WHO WERE DIRECTING THIS QUESTION TO US? YES. OKAY. I WOULD HAVE TO GO LINE BY LINE BECAUSE THE FEE WOULD BE DIFFERENT FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, RETAIL OFFICE. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. SO, MR. MAYOR, I DID A ROUGH CALCULATION. I TOOK THE ORIGINAL TIMES, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THEN A 75%, WHICH IS AROUND THE $3.50. SO THAT WOULD BRING THE TOTAL DOWN TO AROUND 24,400. SO, THAT WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE. AS IT IS. NOT MUCH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING.
WITH THE FULL EXTENT, IT WOULD BE THE 26,476.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S BASED ON A SINGLE FAMILY SQUARE FOOT OF THE 17,045 OR SO.
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DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF WAS LOWERING THAT BY THE 51%.THAT WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT DOWN TO 22,414 FOR ON THAT THEORETICAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
BUT WITH THE 75% LEVEL OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATION FACILITIES, THAT WOULD MAKE THOSE ABOUT 24,400.
WE HAVE DIRECTOR SCHERER HERE. IT PUTS US, YOU KNOW, AT THE HEART OF COVINA.
AND AGAIN I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE CITIES COMING THROUGH FOR AB 602 AND START DOING SO.
EVENTUALLY, BUT IN LOOKING AT THIS, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER CITIES OR SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE FEES AND, YOU KNOW, BYPASSED US. YOU DID MENTION RANCHO CUCAMONGA AND IN ONTARIO.
THAT'S A EXAMPLE OF CITIES WITH A LOT OF LAND, A LOT OF NEW ASSESSED VALUATION AND A NEW STYLE.
THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING IN COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICTS. THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO FUND THOSE RESOURCES THAT AS A CITY THAT IS OVER 100 YEARS OLD AND DEFINITELY ONE THAT IS WAY PRE PROP 13. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT ABILITY COMPARED TO CUCAMONGA, ONTARIO AND OTHERS.
NO. AND SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING DESIRABLE FOR DEVELOPERS AND FOLKS TO COME INTO OUR CITY TO WANT TO BUILD HERE, THEN WE MAY BE COMPARING TWO NUMBERS THAT WILL GO UP SO THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY BE MORE APPEALING.
SO IF COVINA HASN'T DONE THEIR NEXUS STUDY YET, THEIR NUMBERS COULD GO UP CONSIDERABLY.
SO I THINK MY CONCERN IS THAT WHEN YOU PUT OUT A CHART LIKE THIS, THAT JUST GIVES YOU NUMBERS AND, YOU KNOW, GRAPHS TO SHOW, OH, WE FALL, YOU KNOW, HERE.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ACCURATE. IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE SAME INFORMATION, IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF WHAT ACTUALLY IT IS. AND I, THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF LEERY ABOUT REDUCING THIS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GIVEN NUMBERS ON THIS STUDY.
AND WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES. WE DON'T KEEP IT AS HIGH BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING NEW FOR US.
ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. IF YOU DROPPED IT BY 25% TO THE MATRIX WOULD GET US AT 24,400.
WE'VE DONE THE STUDY. WE'RE ALREADY AHEAD OF THE GAME NOW. YEAH. AND WE WON'T FIGHT YOU FROM THAT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE. SO THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE STAFF IF WE'RE OKAY NEXT STUDY, WHICH IS THE LEGAL BASIS SHOWS THAT YOU CAN GO HIGHER THAN THAT.
IF IT'S THE COUNCIL DECISION TO DROP THAT ADMINISTRATIVE FEE FOR FACILITIES BY, YOU KNOW, 25% WE CAN LIVE WITH THAT. AGAIN, WHAT WE HEARD AT THE WATER RATE STUDY WAS PEOPLE WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, DON'T CHARGE THE RESIDENTS, BUT CHARGE OTHERS. THIS IS ONE WAY TO GET THOSE NEEDED FACILITIES.
AND JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, THE PARKS AND REC FEE, WHICH THE PARKS AND REC FUND IS ACTUALLY IN A DEFICIT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SPENDING THE MONEY ON PARKS WILL INCREASE WITH THE NEW FEES BASED ON THIS.
SO AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION, THE CALIFORNIA CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX KEEP PACE SO WE WON'T SEE AND HEAR WHAT WE HAD DURING THE WATER AND SEWER RATE, WHICH IS THERE WAS ONE INCREASE WAY BACK IN 2019 AND NOTHING SINCE THAT POINT.
RIGHT. WELL, AND I GUESS MY CONCERN IS I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER 51% OR A DIFFERENT PERCENTAGE IS APPROPRIATE IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M COMPARING IT TO WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE APPEAL OR THE COMPETITIVENESS WITH OTHER CITIES SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE RETICENT TO SAY, YES, 51% IS FINE.
NO, IT'S NOT FINE. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN WITH THAT.
AT LEAST. IF. IT CAN BE SOONER. OKAY. SO YOU CAN DO IT SOONER.
OH, YOU CAN DO IT SOONER THAN EIGHT. SO IT'S NOT A.
YEAH AT LEAST EVERY EIGHT YEARS OKAY. SO AND AGAIN YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY REASONS WHY A DEVELOPER WOULD LOOK AT A PLACE, YOU KNOW, LAND AVAILABLE. THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T JUMPING AHEAD OF EVERYBODY, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THIS. SO THE 75% OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE FOR FACILITIES PERFECTLY OKAY WITH STAFF ON THAT, IT'S WITHIN THE LEGAL JUSTIFICATION AS SET FORTH THROUGH THE NEXUS STUDY.
AS THE CONSULTANT MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CITIES DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GOT THE NUMBERS FROM. BEFORE THIS TIME WE WERE ONE OF THOSE, SO. WELL.
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WE HAVE WE HAVE THE STUDY HERE. I MEAN, WE HAVE OUR RATES.YEAH. SO, MR. MAYOR, AT THIS TIME, IF YOU WANTED, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COULD MOVE THAT IT'S.
WE DID PUBLIC COMMENTS ALREADY? OH, YEAH, WE DID, BECAUSE THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENT? IT WAS VERY QUICK, TOO. SO I GAVE FIVE MINUTES.
BUT AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S A MOVEMENT A MOTION FOR THE RECOMMENDED ITEM, IT COULD BE THAT IT IS APPROVED AS RECOMMENDED, BUT WITH THE CITY ADMINISTRATIVE FEE AT A 75% LEVEL VERSUS THE CURRENT 51% LEVEL.
SO AND WE WOULD MAKE THAT CHANGE TO THE RESOLUTION.
I'M SORRY. DOES THE RESOLUTION SAY AT A PERCENTAGE LEVEL OR DOES IT SAY A FLAT RATE? I THINK IT SAYS A FLAT RATE, SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT THE FLAT RATE FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
OKAY. SO, WE HAVE THAT INTERESTING ONE. BUT WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO THAT THOUGH, RIGHT? WE CAN DO THAT.
IF SO. BUT WE NEED A MOTION. YES. WE CAN'T GO OVER THE MAXIMUM.
WE THE MAXIMUM WE CAN GO UNDER. YES, YES. SO I GUESS I SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE THE MOTION.
YEAH. MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE ACCEPT THE RATES AS THEY ARE, EXCEPT FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE RATE, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A 25% REDUCTION INSTEAD OF A 51% REDUCTION.
THE RESOLUTION DOESN'T TALK ABOUT PERCENTAGE REDUCTION.
IT JUST TALKS TO THE FLAT RATE. SO WE JUST HAVE TO SAY YOU HAVE TO SAY THE FLAT RATE.
THE FLAT RATE. HOW MANY. RICHARD OR LENNY AGAIN, WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? WE HAVE TO SEE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO NOW WE'RE CHANGING. WHAT WAS THAT, LENNY? WHAT IS THIS SINGLE FAMILY SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? OKAY. I BELIEVE WE USED 1,744. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. SO, IT'S 1,744. YEAH.
COMMERCIAL? SO THE COMMERCIAL RATES WERE CUT AN EQUAL AMOUNT.
SO WE WOULD LOOK AT WHAT IS IN THE RATE. WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A BETTER ONE.
WHY DON'T WE JUST PROPOSE THE MAXIMUM RATE, NOT WORRY ABOUT IT.
WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT ONE RATE. WE'RE DROPPING IT DOWN. IT'S 26,000.
YES, THE MAXIMUM RATE, WHICH IS THE ORIGINAL CHART.
YES. WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT YOU CAN NEGOTIATE.
NEGOTIATE AND GET OTHER THINGS IN LIEU OF STATUTORY DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT ALL THESE OTHER CITIES ARE GOING TO COME FORWARD WITH THIS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THEIR MAXIMUM RATES BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER HAD IT BEFORE. AT THE RATE OF WE'RE LOSING MONEY FROM OUR STATE MANDATED THINGS.
THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. WHICH WOULD BE THE 467, 349, 594, 139 AND 448.
AND THEN WE WOULD BE. THE CHARTS RIGHT HERE. IT'S.
YES, BECAUSE IT'S SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED STUDY.
IT'S PAGE. IT'S TABLE ES-1, ON PAGE 2 OF THE STUDY.
PAGE 50 OF PAGE 40, IN OUR BOOK, PAGE 40 OUT OF 183.
JUST RIGHT HERE. YOU'RE LOOKING OKAY. YEAH. OKAY.
I MEAN, DID THEY MAKE ONE OR THE OTHER? I MAKE A MOTION.
WE ACCEPT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE RATES.
SECOND. SECOND. MOTION. LET'S VOTE. PLEASE. VOTE.
ARE YOU READY? WE MADE A MOTION. MOTION MADE BY MAYOR HEPBURN.
SECONDED BY CROSBY. IT WAS APPROVED 5-0. YEAH.
AND, MR. MAYOR, IF I CAN READ THE TITLE ON THE RECOMMENDATION.
IT WAS A WE DID THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IT WAS FOUND THAT THE ACTIONS PROPOSED HEREIN ARE STATUTORILY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT PURSUANT TO STATE SEQUEL GUIDELINES, SECTION 15378, SUBSECTION (B)(4), 15061, SUBSECTION (B)(3) AND 15273 (RATES, TOLLS, FARES, AND CHARGES), AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION TITLED RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL THE CITY OF LA VERNE,
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CALIFORNIA, UPDATING THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES AND AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025-26 AND APPROVE ANNUAL ADJUSTMENTS TIED TO THE CALIFORNIA CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX TO ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION AND CONSTRUCTION AND ACQUISITION COSTS.PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS AMENDING THE COMP. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THEY'RE GONE.
I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE CITY MANAGER. PLEASE CALL FOR THE STAFF MEMBER WHO WILL BE REPORTING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO BRING FORWARD VALERIE CHEN.
SHE IS OUR ASSISTANT PLANNER IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
IN LATE 2019, THE CITY ADOPTED A POLICY REGULATING THE USE OF PUBLIC SIDEWALKS IN OLD TOWN LA VERNE.
WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO REOPEN D STREET TWO VEHICLES.
CAFE WANG WAS THE ONLY BUSINESS TO APPLY. HOWEVER, THEIR PARKLET HAS SINCE BEEN TAKEN DOWN.
SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED POLICY.
SEVERAL BUSINESSES EXPRESSED CONCERNS THAT THE EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE-BASED LEASE AGREEMENT WOULD CREATE ADMINISTRATIVE CHALLENGES AND HIGHER THAN EXPECTED COSTS FOR SMALL SCALE USES. BASED ON THIS FEEDBACK, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING CHANGES FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
THE PREVIOUS POLICY, WHICH WAS APPROVED AT THE JANUARY 21ST, 2025 COUNCIL MEETING, INCLUDED A LEASE AGREEMENT AND PAYMENT OF $0.90 PER SQUARE FOOT FOR BUSINESSES WITH ALCOHOL SALES AND $0.70 PER SQUARE FOOT PER MONTH FOR BUSINESSES WITHOUT ALCOHOL SALES.
OUR PROPOSED FEE SCHEDULE AMENDMENT AND POLICY REVISION FOR REQUESTS MORE THAN TWO TABLES AND FOUR CHAIRS AND OR SIX SQUARE FEET OF DISPLAY AREA WOULD INSTEAD REQUIRE A FLAT MONTHLY PERMIT FEE OF $100 PER MONTH FOR BUSINESSES WITH FOOD AND OR ALCOHOL SALES, AND $50 PER MONTH FOR BUSINESSES WITH FOOD, BUT NO ALCOHOL SALES.
THE PREVIOUS IMPLEMENTATION DATE OF JULY 1ST, 2025 IS PROPOSED TO BE EXTENDED TO JANUARY 1ST OF 2026 TO ALLOW SUFFICIENT TIME FOR OUTREACH, PERMIT PROCESSING AND THE TRANSITION TO THE NEW FEE STRUCTURE.
UNTIL THAT TIME, BUSINESSES MAY CONTINUE TO USE THE SIDEWALK AREAS AS CURRENTLY PERMITTED BY THE CITY, PROVIDED THAT PROPER INSURANCE IS MAINTAINED AND ADA ACCESS IS NOT OBSTRUCTED.
NO PERMIT FEES WILL BE CHARGED DURING THIS INTERIM PERIOD.
IF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS FEE AMENDMENT, THE PROPOSED REVISIONS WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL OUTDOOR DINING AND DISPLAY AN ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION, AND STAFF WILL NOTIFY ALL AFFECTED BUSINESSES AND PREPARE THE NECESSARY IMPLEMENTATION PROCEDURES PRIOR TO THE JANUARY 1ST, 2026 EFFECTIVE DATE. WITH THAT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE FEE SCHEDULE TO INCLUDE REVISED OUTDOOR DINING AND DISPLAY PERMIT FEES, AND APPROVE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SIDEWALK POLICY TO ALIGN WITH THE UPDATED FEE SCHEDULE STRUCTURE.
WE'LL CALL YOU BACK UP. WE NEED YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THAT WOULD BE A NO. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY. YEAH. THESE FEE STRUCTURES, THEY DO NOT.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE. CORRECT? CORRECT.
FOR THIS IS FOR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. THOSE ARE PUBLIC PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE SEPARATE LEASE AGREEMENTS WITH EACH OF THOSE BUSINESSES, AND A DIFFERENT STRUCTURE. IN WHICH THEY ARE PAYING THEIR DUE FOR THOSE, THOSE THAT PROPERTY.
YES. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, STAFF FOR DOING THIS.
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SOME HAD OR SOME HADN'T, AND, AND REALLY WANT TO MAKE IT SIMILAR TO ALL OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ALSO MAKE IT THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S REALLY PROMOTING DINING AT, AT THEIR PLACES.I LIKE THE MONTH TO MONTH TIMES BECAUSE IN THE WINTER TIME, THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO PUT IT OUTSIDE BECAUSE IT'S RAINING, BUT SUMMER TIMES, THEY REALLY WANT TO AND WHERE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE FEES DURING TIMES WHERE IT'S NOT ADVANTAGEOUS FOR CUSTOMERS TO TO BE USING THAT AREA. SO REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK AND WORKING WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION AS WELL FOR THIS AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN. SO APPRECIATE BRINGING THIS BACK TO US. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY.
COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. I CONCUR WITH MR. CROSBY AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. MISS LAU. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE REPORT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS IMPLEMENTATION DATE, ETCETERA. IT SAYS THAT UNTIL THAT TIME, BUSINESSES MAY CONTINUE TO USE THE SIDEWALK AREAS AS CURRENTLY PERMITTED, PROVIDED THE PROPER INSURANCE IS MAINTAINED. SO, IF, SO, HOW ARE WE, I GUESS WHO'S TRACKING THAT? IS THAT JUST AN ADMIN RESPONSIBILITY WITHIN PLANNING TO BE TRACKING THE INSURANCE? CORRECT, YES. AND GET INSURANCE AND INDEMNITY AND ALL THAT.
BLESS YOU. AGAIN, BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM KASH.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUR BUSINESSES OUT THERE AND THRIVING AND HOPEFULLY GET A CHANCE TO SEE MORE OF THEM EXPANDING THEIR BUSINESSES OUT TO THE OUT INTO I LOVE OUTDOOR DINING. BLESS YOU.
I LOVE OUTDOOR DINING. SO THE DOGS. DID YOU GET A NEW DOG OR SOMETHING? NO. OH. SAME ONES, ARE YOU KIDDING? THAT'S ALL.
THANK YOU. AGAIN KUDOS TO STAFF AND ALSO TO MAKING IT GOOD FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO SURVIVE OUT THERE.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT IT WAS A VERY TENUOUS AND VERY TOUGH TIME.
BUT THIS IS GREAT. WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY SAID, IT'S FAIR TO ALL THAT'S GOOD.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DON'T USE THEM, YOU DON'T PAY. GREAT.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION. I'LL MOVE. SECOND.
SECOND. VOTE, PLEASE. MOTION BY LAU. SECONDED BY COUNCIL KASHIFALGHITA.
AND APPROVED 5-0. THANK YOU. OKAY. THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS TONIGHT.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS ]
OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THE BROWN ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM ENGAGING DISCUSSION ON ANY ITEM NOT POSTED AGENDA.YOUR CONCERNS MAY BE REFERRED TO STAFF OR PLACED FOR DISCUSSION AT A LATER DATE.
AT THIS TIME WE'RE WISHING TO SPEAK. YOU CAN COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM. ANY WISH TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING. ADAM NIKOWITZ. 6711 PLACE.
I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION ON ARROW HIGHWAY WITH THE NEW METRO.
IS THAT BEING WORKED ON, OR IS THAT IN PROGRESS, OR.
WHAT'S AN UPDATE THERE? OH, YEAH. WE'LL WAIT.
OKAY. I KNOW THE WORD OR NOT. WITH THE TIMING AND THE PHASING.
I KNOW THE WORD FOR IT, BUT YEAH. YES. WELL, WE'LL ANSWER THAT.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. DOMER. YEAH. YES. WE ARE AWARE AND I'M TRYING TO GET THE NUMBER FOR AGAIN TO.
[INAUDIBLE]. BUT I WON'T GIVE IT DIRECTLY TO HIM, BUT TO THE METRO.
JUST KEEP CALLING. AND THEY ACTUALLY DO. BASICALLY.
YEAH. SO ON THE PHASING AND ALL THAT STUFF, THERE IS A 800 NUMBER FOR THE METRO OPERATIONS CENTER THAT IF YOU ARE STUCK AT ONE OF THE SIGNALS, WE DO WANT PEOPLE TO CALL IN AND REPORT IT BECAUSE THE TIMING OF IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO THEY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. THERE'S A LOT OF ELECTRONICS BEHIND IT.
BUT YES, WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THAT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE, YOU KNOW, TWO AND A HALF MONTH SHAKEDOWN WITH THE CARS THAT WERE NOT LOADED WITH ANYBODY GOING UP AND DOWN THE TRACKS WAS TO WORK ON THOSE PHASING.
WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS. THEY HAVE SUBSIDED, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME.
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SO I'LL GET THAT NUMBER OR CODY, IF YOU HAVE IT, IF YOU CAN CONTACT HIM.WE'LL GET A NUMBER TO YOU, SIR, SO. AND. PLEASE.
THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE CONTROL. IS THAT KIND OF WHY IT'S BEEN TAKING SO LONG? CORRECT. YEAH. SO IT'S AND THEN THE OTHER. IF IT WAS JUST THE LIGHT RAIL TRACKS, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER.
BUT WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH THE METROLINK ALSO, NOW YOU HAVE A THIRD AGENCY.
AND SO YEAH, IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS.
BUT YEAH, THAT NUMBER IS, I'LL WRITE IT DOWN FOR YOU, BUT IT'S (800) 396-2166.
THAT'S THE METRO RAIL OPERATIONS. THEY ARE AWARE OF IT.
VERY AWARE. AND JUST NOTE AS WORKING IN ANOTHER CITY THAT PUT THIS IN IN DOUGHERTY NEXT RIGHT THROUGH DOUGHERTY ROAD, IT DID TAKE THEM A WHILE TO MAKE SURE THAT OF SYNCING UP THE LIGHTS THROUGH THE METRO.
AS YOU ARE CORRECT. IT IS NOT THE CITY OF LA VERNE THAT'S RUNNING THOSE LIGHTS.
IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THROUGH FROM THE LIGHT RAIL.
THAT'S REALLY TRIGGERING THOSE, THE LIGHTS AND WHAT THEY TIMES COMES.
SO THAT TRIGGER HAS COME THROUGH THEM, NOT THROUGH US BECAUSE OF LIABILITY.
OKAY. AND THEN A COUNCIL MEMBER SAID SOMETHING ABOUT POSTING TO THE WEBSITE. CAN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES LIKE OR LIKE AN INSTAGRAM OR SOMETHING. YOU'RE JUST AWARE OF IT? YEAH. WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT ON OUR PUBLIC WORKS WHERE WE HAVE.
DO A POST. YEAH, WE'LL GET SOMETHING UP THERE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN JUST JUST AS A POINT OF INFORMATION MR. DOMER IT'S NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS WITH THE CARS, IT'S THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS AREN'T OR THE CROSSWALKS AREN'T SYNCED.
SO YOU COULD BE STUCK AT A CORNER WAITING TO CROSS THE STREET FOR SOME TIME WITH TWO DOGS.
NOT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OR ANYTHING, JUST SAYING.
I'LL REPEAT THE NUMBER 1-800-396-2166. THAT MAY SPELL SOMETHING, BUT I'M NOT SURE. THE GOLD LINE, AUTHORITY AND METRO ARE WELL AWARE OF THE PROBLEM, AND IT IS BEING WORKED ON AND IT HAS TO BE.
WHEN THEY DO HAVE AN ISSUE LIKE THAT, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PUC.
IT HAS TO GO THROUGH PROPER CHANNELS IN ORDER. IF THEY CHANGE ANY OF THE MATRIX ON THE SIGNALS.
SO BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. COUNCIL MEMBER LAU.
[COUNCIL COMMENTS AND CONFERENCE/MEETING REPORTS ]
ARE WE DOWN TO COUNCIL COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.SO BEAR WITH ME. THERE ARE NO PARTICULAR ORDER.
BUT IT WAS A LOVELY HOME AND IT WAS VERY, VERY NICE.
AND I'M NOT HURT, BUT. I'M JUST SURPRISED. BUT IT IS REALLY COOL.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, DESPITE THE TIMES THAT SHERRY HAS COME UP HERE TO, TO TALK ABOUT IT WE HAVE SOME REALLY COOL HISTORIC PLACES WITHIN THE CITY.
DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE STILL HAD A MILK BARN FROM OVER 100 YEARS AGO ON SOMEONE'S PROPERTY.
GOT TO SEE A TINY LITTLE MAIL SLOT, ALL SORTS OF FUN THINGS.
SO TAKE ADVANTAGE. I KNOW CHAIR USUALLY GIVES THE PLUG, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT BEFORE, I'M SURE SHE'LL GIVE YOU THIS FEEL AGAIN ABOUT JOINING THE LA VERNE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
BUT THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ON SUCH A NICE EVENT AND FOR THE MARKER AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT WAS VERY NICE. ALSO, I KNOW THE MAYOR HAD BROUGHT UP THE VETERANS DAY CEREMONY THAT TOOK PLACE, AND I. IT'S TOO BAD THE COMMANDER HAD ALREADY HAS ALREADY LEFT, BUT SHE DID A REALLY BEAUTIFUL SPEECH AT THE VETERANS DAY EVENT.
REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE NEEDS OF VETERANS. NOT JUST ON THINGS TO REMEMBER, LIKE VETERANS DAY, BUT EVERY DAY YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO HOUSING, MENTAL HEALTH GETTING RE-ACCLIMATED BACK INTO CIVILIAN LIFE, FINDING JOBS, GOING TO SCHOOL, ETC. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS WE PROCESS THROUGH THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
THE MAYOR AND STEVE AND I GOT TO GO TO LA VERNE BREWING COMPANIES.
ONE YEAR WE DIDN'T, WE WERE GOOD. ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND RIBBON CUTTING.
SO, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BY THERE IT IS OWNED BY KEN AND SHELLY.
THEY'RE LOVELY, LOVELY PEOPLE. AND THEY DO SUCH A NICE JOB WITH EVENTS.
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IT'S REALLY A VERY INCLUSIVE, DIVERSE PLACE TO BE.I LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS OUR OWN CHEERS. WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME.
IT'S VERY, VERY NICE. SO, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, PLEASE GO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESS. THEY DO AN AWESOME JOB AND THEY MAKE SOME REALLY GOOD BEER. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT TRI-CITY MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, WE ARE HAVING A MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY AT 5 P.M.
YOU CAN FIND INFORMATION ON HOW YOU CAN PARTICIPATE EITHER IN PERSON OR VIA ZOOM.
I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO ATTEND IF YOU GET A CHANCE.
AT THE END OF THE AGENDA, IT NOTES THAT WE DO HAVE A MEETING ON THE 25TH.
WE DO NOT. SO IN CASE ANY OF YOU WERE GOING TO SHOW UP, DON'T.
BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ONE AND NO ONE WILL BE HERE FOR YOU. SO, SO SORRY.
AND THEN FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE KEEPING TRACK, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU REALLY SHOULD.
THE UNLV WOMEN'S VOLLEYBALL TEAM HAS HAD A FANTASTIC SEASON.
THEY'VE ONLY LOST TWO GAMES THIS WHOLE SEASON.
THEY JUST GOT THE BID TO GO TO THE NCAA FIRST ROUND D3 CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES IN BALTIMORE.
THEY'LL BE PLAYING PENN STATE BEHREND THIS THURSDAY.
BUT THEY ARE AN AMAZING FORCE. THEY ARE AMAZING.
THEY ARE JUST REALLY, REALLY AMAZING ATHLETES. SO DEFINITELY IF YOU SEE THEM OUT AND ABOUT, AND THEY ARE OUT AND ABOUT, SAY HI, SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
AND WISH THEM LUCK AS THEY MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE TENTS IN A LONG TIME YOU MIGHT BE YOU MIGHT KNOW THE HARGRAVE FAMILY, AL HARGRAVE AND HIS FOLKS. BUT HIS SISTER BELLA PLAYS ON THE VOLLEYBALL TEAM.
SO COME WATCH BECAUSE EVERYONE WATCHES LA VERNE VOLLEYBALL.
SO AND SINCE THANKSGIVING IS COMING UP, I WISH YOU WELL.
HOPE THAT IT'S A SEASON OF ABUNDANCE. AND PLEASE THINK ABOUT THOSE WHO MAY HAVE LESS THAN YOU, AND THINK ABOUT WAYS THAT YOU CAN BE HELPFUL AND KIND TO THEM.
AND HAVE A GOOD TIME. DRIVE SAFE IN THE RAIN AND HAVE A GOOD WEEK.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER LAU. MAYOR PRO TEM KASH.
WELL, WHAT A WEEK FOR OUR ATHLETES HERE IN THE CITY OF LA VERNE.
LET ME TELL YOU, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND DIVISION 3.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE BONITA HIGH SCHOOL WATER POLO TEAM, DIVISION 3 CIF CHAMPIONS.
WHAT AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THESE YOUNG MEN OUT THERE PERFORM AND CONGRATULATE DAMIEN.
HIGH SCHOOL BOYS. DAMIEN. HIGH SCHOOL BOYS GOT TO DIVISION 2.
THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO DIVISION 2 CIF IN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
SO THOSE BOYS BATTLED IT OUT. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY LOST BY ONE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT. STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS COMING UP NEXT WEEK.
SO WE HOPE AND WISH THEM WELL ON THAT ON THAT NOTE.
SO I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THEM AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM HERE.
GOOD TEAM. AND CONGRATULATIONS BONITA. THEY DID IT.
IT WAS. IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE THEY WON ACTUALLY DIVISION 3 CIF.
SO THAT'S AWESOME. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL.
AND THE HAPPY THANKSGIVING. I'M ALWAYS THANKFUL FOR MY HEALTH AND I'M ALWAYS THANKFUL SEEING SOME LOVELY FACES COME AROUND ME WHEREVER I GO, WHETHER IT'S CITY COUNCIL OR IT'S WORK OR IT'S MY FAMILY AND THOSE LITTLE THINGS IN LIFE THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE AND THANKFUL FOR.
SO THANKS AGAIN AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS.
NEXT MONTH. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY.
THANK YOU. JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON THE VETERANS DAY.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK SPECIFICALLY DON KENDRICK, ROBIN CARDER AND THE DIEHL FAMILY.
DON AND ROBIN WERE SPEARHEADED THE VETERAN MEMORIAL BRONZE STATUES AND THE DEAL FAMILY OF REALLY SUGGESTING TO HAVE THE THE ANIMAL WARRIOR THERE. SO APPRECIATE THAT EVENT.
SO APPRECIATE THEM, APPRECIATE ALL OUR VETERANS THAT WERE PRESENT.
MY OWN TWO, WHICH IS MY FATHER AND MY FATHER IN LAW THAT ALWAYS ALONG WITH ME THERE AT THAT EVENT.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CROSBY.
COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. I WANT TO THANK SHERRY FOR THE HOME TOUR, EVEN ALMOST KILLING COUNCIL MEMBER LAU. BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW. DID YOU SLIP ON JAM? OH, IT'S KIND OF GONE NOW, BUT I'M FINE. I NEED TO GET US A WAMBULANCE DARN IT.
SORRY, STEVE. GO AHEAD. SURE. I DO WANT TO THANK YOU.
AND WE DID PURCHASE A LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP TO HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
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AND IT WAS NICE TO GO THROUGH THE HUMES HOME AND SEE EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE TO PROVE THEIR HOUSE.WE DIDN'T GET TO THE OTHER TWO, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.
AGAIN, HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF THAT WILL BE DOING OUR CHRISTMAS DAY CELEBRATION WITH OUR TRUCKS AND SANTAS. AND WE DID APPROVE A STIPEND, WHICH I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT OVER THE YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THAT, AND OUR PEOPLE SHOULD BE PAID FOR THAT, AND WE DO APPRECIATE IT. THEY'RE GIVING UP THEIR DAY OF OF WITH THEIR FAMILY AND STUFF.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. SO AND AGAIN, A SHOUT OUT TO DAN HARDIN.
DON KENDRICK AND ROBIN CARTER AND ALSO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE.
OUTSTANDING JOB. AND OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO DAN HARDIN.
HE DOES HAVE A AN ILLNESS THAT'S SERIOUS. AND HE'S FIGHTING THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO ALL OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO DAN HARDIN.
HE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ANYTHING TO DO WITH MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS DAY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND TAKES CARE OF THE VETERANS HALL AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE THINGS THEY NEED. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND ALSO OUR STAFF, OUR PUBLIC WORKS.
ALSO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION FOR DOING A GREAT JOB SETTING UP AND CLEANING IT UP.
BUT THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB. AGAIN ALSO THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE FOOD BANKS, EVEN THOUGH THE GOVERNMENT'S BACK ON AGAIN, BUT A LOT OF THESE FOOD BANKS HAVE BEEN EMPTIED, AND ONE OF THE ONES THAT GIVES SO MUCH TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT IT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE IS HOUSE OF RUTH.
YOU CAN GO ON HOUSE OF RUTH WEBSITE AND YOU CAN EITHER DONATE WITH CASH, DONATE WITH FOODS, DROP THINGS OFF. THERE'S INFORMATION THERE I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT YOU CAN DO, EVEN IF IT'S $10, $20, $50, JUST. THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB AND THEY HAVE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
PLEASE BE SAFE. ENJOY YOUR FAMILY. REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. MAKE A PHONE CALL. THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS, LOVED ONES.
OUR NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 1ST AT 6:30 P.M.
YOU GOTTA BE HERE. IT'S THE ANNUAL TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY AT 6 P.M.
PLUS OUR AMAZING BONITA CHOIR, OUR CHAMBER SINGERS.
WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 8:08 P.M. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
THANKS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.