Nov 04, 2019 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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CALL OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER IF YOU CAN PLEASE STAY SEATED. OUR VFW POST 1 2 0 3 4 IS GOING TO POST THE COLORS AND LISTEN TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

LADIES & GENTLEMEN PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE FACE THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THANK YOU VFW POST 1 2 0 3 4. JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW

[4. PRESENTATIONS - Acknowledgement of VFW Post #12034, Band of Brothers.]

THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF OUR POST MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. TYPICALLY THIS NIGHT WE CELEBRATE NEW ENTRIES INTO THE SERVICE ALONG WITH THE PARENTS USUALLY THE SERVICE MEMBER IS DEPLOYED AND NOT WITH US SO THEIR PARENTS GET THE FLAG THIS UNFORTUNATELY WE DO NOT HAVE ANY NEW MEMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN NOTIFIED SO WE'VE ASKED THE POST TO COME IN AND DO SOME STUFF THAT THEY NORMALLY DO AT SOME OF THE CEREMONIES. AND SO I'VE ASKED EACH OF THEM TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEMSELVES THE SERVICE AND SO FORTH. SO WE'LL START HERE AND JUST PASS THEM LIKE GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU SIR.

MY NAME IS ORLANDO JACKSON SERGEANT FIRST CLASS UNITED STATES ARMY RETIRED. I DID 21 YEARS IN THE MILITARY. I WAS A AIRBORNE INFANTRYMAN AND THEN EARLY GO AT THE VERY END OF MY CAREER. I SERVED IN BOSNIA IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. JEFF SANCHEZ RETIRED U.S.

ARMY MASTER SERGEANT THREE YEARS GERMANY THE 3RD INFANTRY DIVISION. THEN LATER ON WITH ARMY RESERVES DEPLOYED TO [INAUDIBLE] OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM SPENT YEARS AS AN INSTRUCTOR TAUGHT A LOT OF SOLDIERS HOW TO DEFEND THEMSELVES HOW TO GO INTO CONVOYS WHAT TO DO IN CASE OF AN ATTACK IN COMBAT. WAS PROUD TO SERVE. IN WHICH I COULD SERVE MORE AS. MY NAME IS ROSENDO REYES RETIRED FOR SERGEANT MARINE CORPS I

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JOHN CHAUVIN SERGEANT UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 1963 TO 1967. MY BOOT CAMP AT PARRIS ISLAND SOUTH CAROLINA. INFANTRY TRAINING CAMP [INAUDIBLE] NORTH CAROLINA. I WAS ASSIGNED TO A FIELD COMPANY WENT THROUGH A LOCK ON TRAINING. ULTIMATELY FROM THE LINE COMPANY ADVANCED TO REGIMENTAL HEADQUARTERS 2ND INFANTRY TRAINING REGIMENT AT CAMP PENDLETON AND AFTER TWO AND A HALF YEARS THEY'RE SENT TO VIETNAM IN 1966-67. I SERVED WITH FORCE LOGISTICS COMMAND AT HEADQUARTERS AND I ALSO WAS A SWIM INSTRUCTOR IN UTILIZED THAT ALSO AS I WAS AT THE CHINA BEACH NOT THE CHINA BEACH OF TV BUT THE CHINA BEACH THERE IN VIETNAM A LOT DIFFERENT. SEMPER FI. I'M THE ONE THAT THE MARINES AND ARMY WILL MAKE FUN OF BECAUSE I'M SERGEANT DANIEL LOPEZ WITH THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE HAS AIRCRAFT ELECTRICIAN [INAUDIBLE] B-52'S AND F4'S.  VIETNAM VETERAN WAS VERY PROUD TO SERVE AND VERY PROUD TO BE COMMANDER OF LA VERNE'S VFW POST 1 2 0 3 4 BAND OF BROTHERS. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS DAVID ALVARADO AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE OF LA VERNE FOR 40 YEARS NOW AND I LOVE THIS TOWN. I SERVED IN THE ARMY FROM 1967 TO 1969 AND I WAS DEPLOYED TO THE DMZ IN KOREA. ALL MY TRAINING WAS DONE AT FORD AND I WAS TRAINED TO BE A FIELD COMMUNICATIONS. AND WHEN I GOT TO KOREA THEY CHANGED THAT MOS TO ARTILLERY AND EVENTUALLY I BECAME A RADIO CARRIER FOR FORWARD OBSERVER. SO I SPENT A LOT OF TIME MOVING AROUND THE DMZ AREA FOR 14 MONTHS. MY TWELVE MONTH TOUR TURNED OUT TO BE 14 BUT WHEN I WAS DONE THEY SAID WE'RE JUST GOING TO DISCHARGE YOU WHEN YOU GET HOME AND I SAID THANK YOU BUT I'M VERY PROUD TO DO THE DUTY I DID. THANK YOU. AS I AM LISTENING TO THESE GENTLEMEN AND I AM FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO KNOW EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM WE HAVE OVER ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF

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I'VE ASKED THE COMMANDER OF VFW POST 1 2 0 3 4 DANIEL LOPEZ TO TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THIS POST DOES OTHER THAN SERVING US AND KEEPING US FREE. THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD DEEDS ON OUR COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. DANIEL THANK YOU MAYOR. BESIDES THE OBVIOUS ATTENDANCE THAT YOU SEE US AT MEMORIAL DAY LA VERNE IS GREAT FOR THE JULY PARADE AND VETERANS DAY WHICH IS NEXT WEEK. EVERY SECOND TUESDAY OF THE MONTH WE HAVE A V.A. REPRESENTATIVE COMES OUT TO OUR POST TO HELP VETERANS WITH ANY MEDICAL PAPERWORK THAT WOULD ISSUES THAT THEY MAY HAVE. WE'RE ALSO HAVE AN HONOR GUARD THAT WE PROVIDE FUNERAL SERVICES FOR VETERANS THAT HAVE GONE. YOU WILL FIND US OUT AT RIVERSIDE NATIONAL CEMETERY ROSE HILLS FOREST LAWN UP IN PASADENA AT MOUNT VIEW. WE PROVIDE COLOR GUARD POSTING OR PRESENTING THE COLORS FOR SCHOOLS. WE'VE DONE ALSO FOR SEVERAL CONGRESSWOMEN GRACE NAPOLITANO JUDY CHU [INAUDIBLE] TORRES WERE ASKED TO ATTEND SOME HIGH SCHOOLS TALK TO HISTORY STUDENTS ABOUT OUR MILITARY SERVICES. FOR THEM TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING I THINK THAT KIND OF COVERS MOST OF WHAT WE DO. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER STUFF THAT PROBABLY GETS US STARTED. IS MY IDEA. ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF SERVICE. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR FOR YOUR TIME AWAY FROM YOUR FAMILIES. I KNOW FOR SIX YEARS MY MOTHER AND FATHER WERE SCARED TO DEATH OF WHAT I WAS DOING AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CHARLIE [INAUDIBLE] VIETNAM VETERAN ARMY VETERAN PLEASE STAND. AND ALSO LET US SAY THANK YOU TO YOU CHARLIE SO THAT'S YOU CHARLIE STAND UP. [APPLAUSE]

[5. ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING COMMUNITY EVENTS]

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HERE'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND BE ON TELEVISION. SO I'LL PUT OUT THE HANDOUTS FOR THAT COMING UP IN FEBRUARY. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A HOUSE TO RESTORE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU BET. FOR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE CEMETERY TOUR WAS FUN.

OKAY LET'S ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? GEORGE. GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

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

THE TITLE SAYS IT ALL IS GOOD FOR AGES 5 THROUGH 12 ON MONDAY NOVEMBER 25TH FOR THE 3 TO 4 P.M. WE ARE HAVING A TEEN ADVISORY BOARD. THIS IS BASICALLY WHERE IT'S AVAILABLE. TEENS WHO WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WANT TO TELL US WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN A LIBRARY WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF TITLES WHAT KIND OF PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. FOR ADULTS SATURDAY NOVEMBER 16 FROM 12 TO 130 WE ARE HAVING A SMART GARDENING PROGRAM AND THEN WE ARE HAVING A CELEBRATION OF NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH WE ARE HAVING TWO PROGRAMS ONE ON SATURDAY NOVEMBER 16TH FROM 230 330 THAT'S GOING TO BE A CORN HUSK DOLL MAKING PROGRAM AS APPROPRIATE FOR AGES 18 AND UP AND THEN ON THURSDAY NOVEMBER 7TH FOR SIX THIRTY TO EIGHT. WE ARE HAVING SONGS AND STORIES FROM NATIVE AMERICA. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE FOUNDER OF REDBIRD CARINA ROBERTS SHE'S GOING TO EXPLORE THE DIFFERENT TRADITION TRADITION TRADITIONAL SONGS AND STORIES OF THE HOOPA A SOGGY CHEROKEE [INAUDIBLE] TONGA AND ALGONQUIN INDIAN TRIBES. AND THIS IS FOR ALL AGES. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING FOR YOU KNOW FOR SOMEBODY

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ANNOUNCEMENTS JUST REMINDER ABOUT VETERANS DAY ELEVEN O'CLOCK NEXT MONDAY. VETERANS HALL. ROY YOU'RE THERE EVERY TIME OPENING OUR CLOSING PRAYER. ROY WANTS EVERYONE ELSE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO. BUT NINA AND WHEELER. OKAY LET'S MOVE TO ITEM SIX

[6. CONSENT CALENDAR]

OK 6E WE PULLED KELLY IS REQUESTING THIS TO BE. I JUST WANTED TO

[e. Resolution(s) passage and adoption recommended, as follows:]

[7. PUBLIC HEARINGS Appeal of Case No. 38-19CUP-Continuted]

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STAFF HAS EXPLAINED TO THE APPLICANT THAT THE PARKING REQUIRED FOR THE BUILDING SHALL BE ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT ON STREET PARKING. PUBLIC PARKING AREAS THE EXISTING VEHICLE REPAIR BUSINESS WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF A U-HAUL SALES IS NONCONFORMING TO THE CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS DUE TO THE LACK OF REQUIRED PARKING. THEREFORE THE ADDITION OF ANOTHER USE TO AN EXISTING NONCONFORMING SITE CANNOT BE SUPPORTED BY STAFF STAFF AND THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED NOT RECOMMENDED DENYING THIS REQUEST TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TO DENY IT. THE APPLICANT IS NOW HERE APPEALING THAT DECISION BUT BASED ON THE LIMITED SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE EXISTING PARKING DEFICIT STAFF RECOMMENDS DENYING THE APPEAL AND UPHOLDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DENIAL OF CASE NUMBER 38 DASH 19 CUPD. THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THEM AND I'M ALSO AVAILABLE FROM STAFF. THANK YOU. JUST IN THE QUESTIONS OF CANDACE THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO WE WILL ASK THE APPLICANT TO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND AND PRESENT THE CASE THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU WANT RIGHT MICHAEL. SOMEBODY SAID THERE WAS GOOD EVENING MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL CITY STAFF. MY NAME IS MIKE COSTUMER AND I AM A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF THE APPLICANT RAPE JOHNNY. HE HAS WORKED IN LA VERNE AS FAR AS I KNOW AT A LOCAL VEHICLE MAINTENANCE FACILITY FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS AND HE DECIDED TO OPEN HIS OWN BUSINESS. WHAT SHE DID IN THE END OF DECEMBER BEGINNING OF JANUARY RIGHT NEAR PARK AVENUE AND ARROW HIGHWAY.

HE'S ALSO A CLIENT OF MINE SO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME RUMORS GOING AROUND SO I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF PUT THEM THE REST RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT CHARGING RAY A NICKEL IS WE'LL CALL IT PROPER. CALL IT WHAT YOU MAY. BUT WHEN I HEARD WHAT THE CITY WITH THE U-HAUL HAD OFFERED HIM HE ASKED ME WHAT I THOUGHT OF THE IDEA. I SAID I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I MEAN HE LOVES DOING THAT KIND OF WORK OTHER THAN JUST WORKING ON VEHICLES. SO HE ASKED ME WHAT DO I DO NEXT. I SAID WELL WHAT WE

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IN FACT THE MR. GARY SMITH WHO WAS HERE THIS AFTERNOON HAS OFFERED JUST TO HAVE HIM HAVE ONE SMALL VAN ON HIS PROPERTY. HE HAS REALLY NO INTENTIONS OF BEING AN AGENCY YOU KNOW WORDS RENTING U-HAUL VEHICLES. ALL HE WANTS TO DO IS SATISFY YOU HALL'S REQUIREMENT OF ON BEING A DEALER ON PAPER SO THAT IF SOMEBODY ASKS WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY'RE ALL COVERED. HE WILL PROBABLY END UP DOING ONE OR TWO ONE OR TWO YOU HITCHES EVERY FEW WEEKS MAYBE TWO OR THREE INCHES A MONTH. BUT HE HAS NO INTENTION OF RENTING OR ACTING AS AN AGENCY FOR U-HAUL AND THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR IS HERE TO CONFIRM THAT. WHEN I MET WITH STAFF IF I AND RAY OR GARY KNEW THAT WHAT EVER I SHOULD SAY WHATEVER WE HAD WHATEVER WE DID TO TRY TO MAKE THIS WORK IT WASN'T GOING TO WORK AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT NEITHER RAY. I GOT STUCK WITH TELLING HIM THIS THAT BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE CURRENT BUSINESS WHICH IS AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR AND RAY'S BUSINESS THERE NONCONFORMING MEANING I DIDN'T REALIZE IT. I NEVER HEARD OF WORD NONCONFORMING AS FAR AS THIS IS CONCERNED. SO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO HERE RAY MOVES IN IN JANUARY WHATEVER HE WANTED TO DO WITH HIS BUILT BUSINESS. HE WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY APPLY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WHICH IS WHAT HE IS DOING NOW BUT BASED ON THE BUSINESS THAT HE'S LEASING FROM AND HIS OWN BUSINESS BEING NONCONFORMING HE'S OUT OF LUCK. I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY PROBABLY TRUE BEEN EXPLAINED TO HIM I THINK WHEN HE LEASED THE BUSINESS. THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN'T DO. THE AS FAR AS PARKING GOES THE CURRENT PERSON HE LEASES SPACE FROM. ALL HE DOES IS FIX ENGINES. NOBODY BRINGS A VEHICLE TO THAT LOCATION. NO ONE HE EITHER PICKS UP THE ENGINE OR THE ENGINE IS DELIVERED TO HIS LOCATION SO THERE'S A YOU KNOW AS FAR AS PARKING SPACES. HE DOESN'T NEED ANY HASN'T USED ANY PARKING SPACE ANY SPACES IN YEARS. ORIGINALLY IT WAS TOLD TO US THAT THERE WOULD BE FIVE SPACES REQUIRED THAT ALL KINDS OF PAPERWORK HERE. STAFF AND MYSELF AND RAY AND THEN IN JULY ON JULY 2ND WE WERE INFORMED BY STAFF THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR AND THAT 5 NOW IS 9 AND I WAS THE LUCKY ONE TO TELL RAY THAT. AND SO THERE WAS A PROP THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT YOU CAN'T GET NINE SPACES IN THE AREA IN WHICH VEHICLES ARE PARKED.

HE'S NEVER GONNA HAVE THAT MANY. AND AS IT TURNS OUT WHEN I ASKED STAFF I SAID LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. OKAY. HOW MANY. IF HE BRINGS THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT YOU HAUL ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED FROM 2 TO 1 HOW MANY SPACES WOULD HE NEED. THEN I THOUGHT

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HOW MANY SPACES WOULD HE NEED. THEN THE ANSWER WAS ZERO. ZERO SO I SAID WAIT A MINUTE. THIS. WHAT ABOUT I MEAN THESE ARE SPACES FOR HIS CUSTOMERS AND SHE SAYS IT'S STILL ZERO. HOW ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE DISABILITY ACT. THAT SPACE NOT REQUIRED NO FDA NO SPACES NO LINES NOTHING. A LOT OF THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. NO IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO GARY AND RAY BUT ALL HE WANTS TO DO IS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A COUPLE OF HITCHES ON A U-HAUL VEHICLE. I MEAN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE. IT'S NOT GOING TO GET RICH OVER IT. THAT'S FOR SURE. SPEAKING OF GETTING RICH. NOT LONG AFTER THIS WHOLE PROCESS STARTED. HE FOUND OUT HIS WIFE WHO'S BEEN IN YOUR BUSINESS FOR DECADES GOT LAID OFF AND THAT WAS GOING TO OBVIOUSLY MONEY TO HELP WITH THE BUSINESS BECAUSE THE BUSINESS HE'S IN. LIKE WE ALL I MEAN A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS HERE. IT'S A TOUGH BUSINESS JUST MAKING ANY BUSINESS GO. I SEE BUSINESSES GOING OUT OF BUSINESS EVERY DAY NOT JUST IN THE FIRM BUT IN SURROUNDING CITIES ESPECIALLY RESTAURANTS. SO IT'S DIFFICULT WHATEVER THE CITY WANTS HIM TO DO AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES. WE'VE ALREADY INFORMED THE CITY WHATEVER HOURS THEY WANT HIM TO OPERATE. NOT A PROBLEM AS FAR AS U-HAUL VEHICLES THE SIZE OF THE U-HAUL VEHICLES ARE GOING TO BE AS SMALL AS VEHICLES THEY HAVE. USUALLY YOU SEE HIM RUNNING AROUND 1995 OR NOTHING IT'S 9 9 19 GM TRAINING TRIANGLE JUST GET THERE. SO AGAIN HE'S WILLING TO DO. BUT AFTER HEARING THE DRC TO THE DRC DRC REPORT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT EXCUSE ME A STAFF REPORT THAT SINCE THE ORIGINAL WILL CALL HIM THE LESS HE IS NONCONFORMING AND RAY IS NONCONFORMING THE NEW PERSON LEASING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LEASE. I MEAN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE THIS NO MATTER WHAT WE DO HERE. IRONICALLY ENOUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE DOESN'T EVEN DOESN'T EVEN HAVE VEHICLES GOING UP AND DOWN PARK AVENUE ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN PARKING FACILITY. SO THAT ISN'T A PROBLEM. HE CAN'T USE ANY OF THE SPACES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ALLOCATED THE NINE SPACES TOWARDS PARKING VEHICLES IN THE STREET. THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH SPACE THAT HE HAS TO GET IN LINE IF HE WILL WITH THE CITY OF BEING IN THE PARK VEHICLES IN THERE. HE'S NEVER GOING TO GET 9 V8 9 PEOPLE COMING IN AT ONCE ANYHOW. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE RULES THE REGULATIONS AND REGULATIONS BUT WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE I MEAN WHEN I FIRST MET WITH STAFF BEFORE WE KNOW IT WE'RE HIRING AN ARCHITECT. WE'RE WRITING OUT A CHEQUE FOR ALMOST TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A FEE. THERE WERE OTHER MONEYS THAT WERE LAID OUT BY U-HAUL AND RAY AND THIS GUY HAS GONE OVER FOR THE LAST 10 MONTHS NINE MONTHS 10 19 MONTHS. I

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MAYBE SOMEBODY ON THIS COMMISSION WILL VOTE THIS WAY YOUR VOTE THAT WAY OR WHATEVER AND YOU MAY HAVE A CHANCE STAFF HAS BEEN VERY GOOD. I KNOW THEY HAVE THEIR RULES AND GUIDELINES TO FOLLOW AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT ANYBODY IN STAFF. I MEAN I KNOW JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY IN STAFF. MOST PEOPLE HERE IN THIS ROOM AND THE FIRST THING I SAID TO RAY. WHATEVER YOU DO EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE DONE LEGAL. AND HE UNDERSTOOD THAT. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR RAY IF HE.

BECAUSE FOR MONTHS NOW HE WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO SUPPLEMENT HIS INCOME AGAIN NOT TO GET RICH BUT JUST PAY THE BILLS ESPECIALLY SINCE HE DOESN'T HIS WIFE HIS WIFE'S INCOME ANYMORE. SHE'S LOOKING FOR A JOB AND MAY END UP STARTING YOUR OWN BUSINESS. BUT IT'S TOUGH. AGAIN IF WE KNEW THEN YOU KNOW IF WE KNEW THEN WHAT WE KNOW NOW THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD HAVE I WOULD'VE TOLD RAY RIGHT FROM THE VERY FROM THE GATE. THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. AND BUT IT WAS SOMEBODY KIND OF HIT US OVER THE HEAD SAYING YOU KNOW I PERSONALLY THINK STAFF WANTED TO SEE IT WORK. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY TOLD US HEY FORGET IT. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT OKAY. YOU KNOW. BUT HERE WE ARE. WHICH IS WHY I AM HERE TRYING TO HELP RAY. THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO IS READ YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD OR CARRY ON ME. OK. GOOD EVENING. I KNOW GARY FROM MY PREVIOUS BOSS AND I REALLY BELIEVE IN HIM. AND THAT WAS 10 MONTHS AGO. AND HE ASKED WHAT IS RAY. AND HE'D FIND OUT WHAT I AM. AND HE HE CAME BY AND HE HE'S BEEN AT EVERY DEALER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. AND HE SAID I'LL NEVER NEED MORE YOUR WHOLE DEALER BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING SHORT. EVEN WE HAVE ONE OR TWO. AND I SAID WHAT DO YOU THINK. HE SAID THIS PERFECT PLACE. I SAID WELL YOU WANT ME TO. HE SAID I WANT YOU TO BE AND I WANT TO SUPPORT YOU. AND THEY SAY NO THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN I WOULD NOT BE WORKING.

ELEVEN MONTHS BACK AND FORTH ON THIS. I'M GOOD AT FIXING CARS ARE YOU THINK MAYBE YOU KNOW THAT. SO THE THING IS IT WASN'T FOR US TO JUST FIGHT IT. IT WAS LIKE THERE AND I CAN SEE HOW CROWDED OUT ALL THE SHOPS ARE. I MEAN NOBODY IS LIKE FREELY I CAN I CAN HAVE ONE VAN SAYS YOU ALL ON IT AND DO MY THINGS AND NOT NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW PARK AVENUE IS LIKE A CUL DE SAC THERE'S NOBODY GOING THROUGH ANYMORE. THEY CLOSED UP PARKING BEHIND ME. I MEAN THE PLACE IS HUGE. YOU CAN TAKE AN AERIAL SHOT AND YOU SEE HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE LIKED CARS ARE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. I JUST WANTED ONE VAN SAYS U-HAUL ON IT. IT'S NO BIG DEAL. AND IF GETTY WANTED IT WOULDN'T SUPPORT ME TO DO IT I WOULD NOT DO IT. IT JUST EXCELLENT INCOME. PAY MY BILLS ESPECIALLY NOW MY WIFE LOST HER JOB. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING. NO NO NOT MUCH. I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE. IS IT JUST A YOU WHOLE DEALER. THAT'S IT. THANK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE A QUESTION. MICHAEL YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT AN ENGINE PERSON. IS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE LEASING THAT PROPERTY THAT YOU SAID IS NEVER ON SITE THAT I'M I KNOW THERE'S NOBODY ELSE LEASING IT. HE OWNS THE PROPERTY. OK AND HE'S THE LET'S OR THAT'S ALL I SHOULD SAY FOR RAY AND THAT'S WHAT HIS SPECIALTY IS. YES STAFF. OH I SEE. SO THE PERSON WHO OWNS IT IS WHO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. CORRECT NOT THE. OK. CORRECT. OK. GOOD.

AND I ASKED STAFF IF THEY KNEW THERE WAS IF THEY WERE FACTORING IN A NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT HE HAS TO HAVE WHICH I KNOW THAT'S THE CASE. I ASKED STAFF IF THEY'VE

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THAT IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK THEN WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO HERE. WELL IF I KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE NINE VEHICLES IT WAS HARD ENOUGH WITH FIVE BUT IF I KNEW THERE'S GONNA BE NINE VEHICLES IF THE CODE WAS RED IT WAS IT WASN'T A SURPRISE. AND IN FACT WE WERE TOLD ON JULY 2ND SEVEN MONTHS SIX MONTHS INTO IT THAT THERE WAS A IT WAS RED INCORRECTLY AND THAT IT WAS GOING TO GO FROM FIVE TO NINE. AT THAT POINT WE SHOULD HAVE SAID IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN NEVER GONNA HAPPEN PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE BASED ON WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. NO WORDS. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID MR. ROSSI BUT IT COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. MICHAEL I HEAR YOU HOPE GENTLEMEN AVAILABLE FOR COMMENT. YES HE IS. PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM. NOW IF I'M HEARING THIS CORRECTLY RAISE AUTOMOTIVE NEEDS TO HAVE TO YOU ALL TRUCKS ON THE PROPERTY TO AVAILABLE FOR RENT. IS

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WHY DON'T WE HAVE YOU CHANGE YOUR RULE. OK. HOW COULD I DO THAT SIR. DON'T GO MAKE HIM PUT ANY TRUCKS ON THAT. WELL WE WISH WE COULD DO THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST WE CAN'T DO IT HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OK. I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY ONE FINAL POINT.

MARTIN CAN I ASK YOU IS THE MICROPHONE RIGHT. NOW. WELL IT'S REALLY FOR RAY BUT IF YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR HIM NOW WHEN YOU START A BUSINESS YOU'RE GIVEN ALL THE DOCUMENTS NOW AND YOU HAVE A COPY I WOULD ASSUME OF THE ARROW ARROW CORRIDOR SPECIFIC PLAN AND THAT'S WHERE IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS PER SQUARE FOOTAGE.

THERE'S ONE SPACE NEEDED FOR EVERY 250 SQUARE FEET. YOU HAVE TWO THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SQUARE FEET SO THAT RIGHT THERE TELLS YOU NINE PARKING SPOTS ARE NEEDED. SO I WOULDN'T SAY THE CITY I WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THE CITY STAFF TOLD YOU A CERTAIN AMOUNT BUT THEN THEY TELL YOU IT'S NINE AND SO BUT YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT YOU SHOULD ANY BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE YOU START A BUSINESS OF WHAT'S REQUIRED. BUT THAT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT IN THAT PLAN THE SPECIFIC PLAN FOR ARROW HIGHWAY NUMBER ONE WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY DOCUMENTS NONE. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT NOW WHILE YOU WERE APPLYING. I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SEARCH YOUR BUSINESS. YOU ALWAYS GET DOCUMENTS TO KNOW WHAT IS MY REQUIREMENTS AND THIS AND THAT. AND YOU KNOW YOU APPLY FOR A PERMIT. I WOULD BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULD GET ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS BUT YOU IN OTHER WORDS YOU'RE SAYING YOU NEVER SAW IT. I NEVER EVEN GOT A COPY OF IT. TOOK THIS STUFF SIX MONTHS TO FIND OUT. OH IT'S NOT FINE IT'S FINE. AND YOU THINK. BUT I HAVE TO FIND OUT ALL THIS BY MYSELF AND I'M NOT A GRANDMOTHER. I KNOW THIS ONE THING. I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER. I TOOK A LEAVE AND I START MY BUSINESS BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S 100 BOOK FOR CAR RIGHT. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD JUST STAND UP LIKE THIS. SORRY. I'M SORRY IT TOOK THE STAFF LIKE FIVE TO SIX MONTHS TO FIND OUT. OH NO IT'S NOT FIVE IT'S NINE.

SO FOR ME TO FIGURE IT OUT RIGHT AWAY IF IT'S NOT THERE. LIKE I SAID WE STARTED WITH. WE PAID DEPOSIT FOR CPA AND WE DID THE. YOU HOLD WAS ALL ALONE. GOING FORWARD WITH US. WE DIDN'T KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO HERE. WE THOUGHT IT'S WE CAN KEEP REDUCING THE PARKING OF U-HAUL. WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH. LIKE NOW WE WILLING TO PUT IT JUST A VAN. I WON'T TAKE ANY RESERVATION OVERNIGHT. I CAN ALWAYS GET THE VAN OUT OF THE PREMISES BEFORE I CLOSE. WELL YOU CAN DO ANY OF THIS A VISION YOU WANT WITH THE NEW TECHNOLOGY NO. HE YOU KNOW MR. GETTY CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER. THERE IS NO WAY I'M GONNA BE PARKING YOUR WHOLE SLUGS ON ARROW HIGHWAY AND EVERYWHERE. IT'S JUST THAT I CAN GET A RESERVATION HERE AND THERE BUT AT THE SAME TIME I CAN DO MY OWN THING LIKE PUTTING BATTERIES FOR THEM TO INSTALL HITCHES AND DOING SOME EXTRA MONEY JUST TO PAY MY BILLS BUT I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE LIKE THREE 4 RESERVATION AT THE TIME AND PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE TO PICK UP FIVE TRUCKS. I KNOW IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THE CASE. THANK YOU. ON THE 24TH OF JANUARY GARY SUBMITTED A REQUEST AS HE HAS SPECIFIED TODAY. AND STAFF STATED THAT THE INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED TO OTHER STAFF MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND DUE TO LACK OF PARKING. AND THEN IN PARENTHESES NO STRIPED SPACES THE CCP COULD NOT BE SUPPORTED THE BUSINESS THAT OPERATES THERE TODAY DOES NOT HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING AND STAFF WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT A BUSINESS THAT REQUIRES MORE PARKING. IF YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP OR ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME. WELL WHEN I SAW THAT JANUARY 24TH I MEAN I'VE PUT HUNDREDS OF HOURS INTO THIS I CONTACTED

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ALISA TO YOU BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING HE'S NOT GONNA DO THAT. THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING IS IS THE ENGINE GUY RIGHT. I MEAN HE'S THE ONE EVERY PLACE I DIRECT. SO ARE YOU. ARE YOU SAYING THAT HE IS NOT AWARE THAT THAT PROPERTY HAS LIMITATIONS. NOT LIKE WE KNOW NOW. NEVER. I'M NOT SAYING HE DIDN'T MENTION THAT I'M JUST SAYING DID HE KNOW IT. SO HE UH HOW OLD IS HE. NINETEEN EIGHTY NINE. EIGHTY NINE OK. HE MAY HAVE KNOWN AT ONE POINT BUT HE CERTAINLY DOESN'T KNOW NOW. OK.

WELL LET'S LET'S LET'S. BUT I THINK THAT I THINK SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY OF LA VERNE KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOW AND WHAT THEY KNOW SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING TO THIS PERSON LEASING THAT SPACE OK THAT'S ALL I IS. THANK YOU MICHAEL. OK. MICHAEL IS STILL.

YES. I MEAN ACTIVELY. WELL IT DOESN'T DO. HE DOESN'T LIKE. HE DIDN'T DO LIKE ONE A DAY. HE'S A NAME YOU KNOW. IT DOESN'T DO ENOUGH TO MAKE A GOOD LIVING OUT OF IT.

IT'S BASICALLY SOMETHING TO DO AT HIS AGE. THERE'S ALL THIS STUFF SURROUNDING

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DO YOU HAVE ANY CANDLES ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTION CANDACE. I HAVE ONE MORE FOR THAT I THINK GOT CONFUSED IN THE COLD CASE IS CANDACE AND THE NUMBER OF SUBMITTERS THAT EVER CAME THROUGH WAS THERE EVER A DESIGN THAT SATISFIED THE FIVE OR THE NINE. NO.

SO THE FIVE WAS NEVER MADE AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL PARKING EITHER. NO. AND IT'S LIKELY IMPOSSIBLE AS THE APPLICANT SAID THAT WAS MY FIRST CONCERN WAS THE FACT THAT INFORMATION WAS GIVEN FOR FIVE AND THEN NINE. BUT IT REALLY WAS IT DIDN'T MATTER. RIGHT. IS THE 1940S SITE SUPPORTED BY CORRECT LET ALONE NOT CORRECT. LET'S GET A PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT. OKAY WE HAVE A PUBLIC IS NOW IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ON THIS SUBJECT YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD PLEASE EITHER FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD PRIOR TO OR AFTER YOU SPEAK AND PLEASE GIVE IT TO OUR CITY CLERK. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COME BACK. JIM YOU WANT TO START. I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW FRUSTRATING THIS IS TO THE OWNER AND ALSO TO MICHAEL. WE DO HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN THE CITY AND WE TRY TO KEEP TO THOSE BECAUSE IT KEEPS OUR CITY WHERE IT IS TODAY. WHICH IS ORGANIZED AND RUNS EFFICIENTLY. IT'S NOT ALWAYS PERFECT. I'VE HAD DISCUSSION WITH GREAT MIKE. ALSO WITH CANDACE BARRY ALSO MR. ROSSI. AND IF THERE WOULD BE A SOLUTION OF SOME SOLUTION WHICH WOULD BE IF WE COULD TAKE AND YOU COULD USE ONE U-HAUL TRUCK AND PARKING ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING ON AN EMPTY LOT. WOULD BE AWESOME. THAT SHE WONDER IF WE COULD MAKE AN ARRANGEMENT WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR AND THEN YOU COULD STILL FUNCTION. WE CAN. THAT'S SOMETHING I FORGET TO SAY THIS. CAN I SAY SOMETHING. NO. ANYWAY I JUST. WE HAVE TO HAVE TO STICK WITH OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS. AND AS A BUSINESS OWNER I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW ANYTIME ANYTHING TAKE A CHANCE TO MAKE ADDITIONAL MONEY IT'S GREAT. IT'S JUST THAT UNFORTUNATELY WE DID LOOK AT THE LEASE. THE LEASE WASN'T CHECKED INTO HERE. IT WASN'T FORTHRIGHT. I'M JUST SAYING IT WAS A NIGHTMARE FOR ME. I WAS GRANDFATHERED IN AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE FLOURISH AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE WITH OUR REPORTING RULES REGULATIONS. I JUST I WOULD LOVE TO DO IT. IF THERE IS SOME OTHER WAY THAT WE COULD DO IT TO GET IT YOU KNOW IF THERE ANY WAY TO DO IT TO KEEP THE PROPERTY OR CLEAN UP YOUR PROPERTY AND COME BACK AT ANOTHER TIME AND CLEARED OUT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT IT WOULD CANCEL OUT THAT WAY I GUESS. THAT'LL WORK. BUT I COMMEND STAFF. THIS HAS BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING FOR THEM TOO. THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS. I THINK THAT MAYBE SOME MISCOMMUNICATION WITH THE APOLOGY APPLICATION PUTTING IT IN. MAYBE JUST MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON. I THINK THAT IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE. IT'S FRUSTRATING. OK WE'RE. I'M SORRY IT'S NOT WORKING OUT FOR YOU. I OWN LAND IN LA VERNE AND I HAVE TO KNOW AS THE LANDOWNER WHAT IT CAN AND CAN'T DO AND AND AND I ALSO WHEN I. I I'VE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO UNDER THIS CIRCUMSTANCES AND WHAT ARE LIMITED. AND I ALSO WORK FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON AND I WORK WITH OUR BOTH OUR INTERCONNECTION FOLKS AND OUR TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION FOLKS. AND THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT STAFF FOR A REGULATED UTILITY ARE SIMILAR TO THE STAFF OF THE CITY. OUR PLANNING STAFF ARE NOT DECISION MAKERS. BUT THEY CANNOT FLAT OUT SAY NO WAY IN HELL. CAN THIS BE DONE.

THAT WOULD BE OVERSTEPPING THEIR ROLE IN THIS PROCESS. UNDERSTAND THE THE THE

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[8. PUBLIC COMMENTS/ORAL COMMUNICATIONS]

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I DON'T WANT A BAR AND GRILL NEXT TO MY HOUSE. SO I'M JUST BRINGING THIS UP AND ASKING THAT YOU ALL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT LAND STAY OPEN. I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE CALLING UP NEW URBAN WEST AND COMPLAINING TO THEM ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT PROPERTY. IT'S NOT THE BEST CASE SCENARIO RIGHT NOW BUT I THINK WHAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST IS THAT WHEN THEY PURCHASE THE SLAM HER THREE POINT SIX FIVE THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY ENVISIONED AND THAT MAYBE THEY'LL PUT THREE LET'S SAY THEY'LL WALK AWAY WHAT BY THE TIME THEY SELL ALL THESE LANDS AND MAKE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OFF A THREE POINT SIX FIVE INVESTMENT BY THE TIME THEY'RE DONE THEIR NET MIGHT BE A HUNDRED MILLION. I THINK THAT'S INSANE TO THINK THAT PEOPLE CAN COME INTO OUR CITY AND BUY A CHEAP PIECE OF LAND WITH THE IDEA OF NEVER LETTING THE GOLF COURSE HAVE A CHANCE PURPOSELY RUNNING IT DOWN AND TAKING AWAY OR NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR IT TO BRING IT BACK UP TO GET MORE MEMBERS AND THEN GO OH WELL WE WE TRIED OUR BEST AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT AND THAT WAS NEVER THE PLAN. SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO STAY STRONG AND THAT WE KEEP OUR OPEN SPACE. AND YOU KNOW

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HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET DOWN THE HILL WITH VEHICLES COMING UP IN EMERGENCIES AND US TRYING TO GET DOWN THOSE HILLS. WE GOT WE GOT WHEELER WITH FOUR LANES WE GOT ESPERANZA WITH TWO WE'VE GOT TO HAVE EMERGENCY VEHICLES COMING UP AND WE'VE GOT TO GET DOWN. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN PARADISE LAST YEAR. PEOPLE WERE BURNT ALIVE IN THEIR CARS TRYING TO GET OUT. WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK THERE'S A MAXIMUM CAPACITY UP THERE IF ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SIX PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. WE NEED A MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF HOW MANY HOUSES WE CAN SUPPORT UP THERE WITH THE WITH THE ROADS COMING DOWN THE MATH MAXIMUM CAPACITY AS FOR SAFETY JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO HAVE SAFETY UP THERE. SO I WOULD LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS OR IF THE COUNTY HAS ANYTHING LIKE THIS BUT WE REALLY NEED AN EVALUATION OF HOW MANY HOMES COULD BE MAXIMUM CAPACITY UP THERE BECAUSE IF THAT GOLF HORSE COMES IN WITH 300 HOMES I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HECK WE'RE GONNA GET DOWN THAT HILL IF THERE'S EVER AN EMERGENCY.

AND YOU CAN SAY HEY THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN EMERGENCY HERE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY UNBIASED COME IN AND LOOK AT THAT AREA AND FIGURE OUT HOW MANY CARDS CAN GET DOWN THAT HILL WITH EMERGENCY CARS COMING UP TO BE SAFELY GET OUT OF THAT AREA. IF WE HAD TO WORK WE'RE KIND OF BUILT IN UP THERE.

YOU LIVE UP THERE DON'T YOU. YES I THINK THAT ME AND WE HAVE TO GET DOWN AND I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA GET DOWN WITH ANOTHER 300 HOMES. I THINK WE'RE OVERBUILDING. WE'VE GOT TO YOU KNOW IT IS JUST A CYCLE OF ACTION. WE BUILD UP THERE. THE WILDLIFE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE. NOW WE GOT SOUTH LA VERNE COMPLETELY YOU KNOW BELOW BASELINE COMPLAINING ABOUT ALL THE COYOTES THEY WANT TO CALL THEM. IT'S A MESS. I DON'T WANT TO CALL COYOTES BY THE WAY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS A TRAP. PLEASE DON'T DO IT ANYWAYS. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT USED TO LIVING WITH THE COYOTES WE'RE USED TO LIVING WITH UP THERE WE DO THINGS TO KEEP OUR PETS SAFE. BUT YOU KNOW PEOPLE AREN'T WHO HAVE NEVER HAD IT BEFORE. THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO DEAL WITH IT. NOW THEY'RE GETTING UPSET ABOUT IT. SO WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK BEFORE WE START BUILDING ANY MORE UP THERE. NOW PEOPLE WHO ALREADY HAVE PROPERTY UP THERE AND IT'S ALREADY ZONED TO BUILD ON FINE THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT THEM IF THEY WANT TO BUILD ONE DAY LET THEM BUILD. BUT WE NEED TO STOP THE GIVING OUT PERMITS FOR THESE HOMES. WE JUST NEED TO STOP. WE'VE GOT OPEN LAND. WE COME TO THE CITY BECAUSE WE LOVE THE OPEN SPACES. WE LOVE TO SEE THE MOUNTAINS. YOU KNOW MOST OF US WHO LIVE UP THERE WE DEAL WITH IT BUT NOW IT'S STARTING TO TRICKLE DOWN INTO PARTS OF LA VERNE. THEY DON'T LIKE IT. THEY DON'T LIKE THOSE COYOTES IN THEIR BACKYARD. THEY'RE NOT USED TO YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT WHAT DO I DO WITH MY PIT. HOW DO WE GET IT GO THE BATHROOM. WE ALL FIGURED THAT OUT ALREADY UP AND UP IN THE HILLS THAT THEY HAVE IT IN THERE AND THEY'RE UPSET ABOUT IT. AND I ALREADY KNOW IT'S COMING THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND ASK FOR CALLING AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD CALLING THREE THINGS SANDY MOSS IS GOING

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THANK YOU. PAM BARRY I'M GOING TO PIGGY BACK ON ALL OF THAT BECAUSE IT IS SCARY TO THINK ABOUT. I WAS LOOKING AT THE LITTLE PLAN THE LITTLE THING THAT THEY MAY E-MAILED OUT TODAY AND THOSE LITTLE 300 TINY LITTLE BOXES KIND OF THE ONLY EXIT OUT OF THAT WHOLE AREA WAS ON A BUGGY WHICH IS JUST EXITING INTO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO FIND ANOTHER WAY OUT. AND IT'S JUST THAT THAT'S INSANE. THAT IS A DEATH TRAP FOR SENIORS EVEN IF THEY DO WANT A TWO STORY HOUSE. BUT BUT THE REST OF US THAT ARE UP THERE THERE ARE VERY FEW WAYS OUT. AND YOU KNOW GO FIRE OVER THE HILL OR LIKE ANNA SAID ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE VERY POSSIBLE. WE LIVE IN CALIFORNIA. THERE ARE FIRES THERE ARE EARTHQUAKES EARTHQUAKES GAS LINES. I JUST FINISHED CERT TRAINING. YES IT COULD HAPPEN AND WE ARE AT THE LIMIT. WE NEED TO WORK IT ON THE GENERAL PLAN COME UP WITH A LET'S STOP. IT IS CURRENTLY OPEN SPACE. LET'S KEEP IT THAT NOT JUST BECAUSE WE LIKE THE OPEN SPACE WHICH WE REALLY DO BUT BECAUSE THE TOPOGRAPHY THE CANYONS THE HILLS IT THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO DO IT THAT WOULD EVEN BE WISE. SO JUST MAKING A STATEMENT. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR IF I CAN JUST SO WE DON'T GET OFF ON A MISDIRECTION HERE OF WHAT WAS SUBMITTED JUST SO WE'RE WE'RE CLEAR AND STAFF AND THE CITY JUST BECAME AWARE OF THIS E-MAIL TODAY SOMEBODY SHARED IT WITH US. THANK YOU. THIS PLAN WHATEVER THE SCHEMATIC THAT WAS WAS SENT OUT WAS APPARENTLY SAID TO ALL THE RESIDENTS UP IN THAT AREA. IT IS NOT A SUBMIT ALL THE CITY HASN'T EVEN BEEN GIVEN ANYTHING. WE WERE NOT A PARTY TO EVEN THE E-MAIL THAT WAS RECEIVED BY EVERYBODY. AND I JUST I THINK I SPEAK CERTAINLY FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WHO CAN'T SPEAK RIGHT NOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE IN THE POSITION THAT THE CITY STANDS BY THAT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT ZERO LA VERNE THE. IT IS ZONED AS AGRICULTURE.

THERE IS NO VISION TO SEE ANY TYPE OF CHANGE IN THAT. WE HAVE SHARED THIS INFORMATION THAT WE JUST RECEIVED UP ON THE ZERO LA VERNE WEB SITE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO AREN'T. ARE CERTAINLY MADE AWARE OF THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU TONIGHT THAT THERE ISN'T AN APPLICATION IF THERE EVER WAS TO BE. WE WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS WERE ENGAGED IN AT LEAST MADE AWARE OF IT. SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO PUT EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT AT EASE.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT HAS REALLY BEEN ADVANCED IN ANY WAY. THIS IS THE FIRST WE'VE HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THIS AND BASED ON WHAT I WAS READING I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT THEY'RE PLAYING ONE AGAINST THE OTHER BUT IT REALLY DIDN'T EVEN SEEM TO RISE TO THE LEVEL OF. WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS. SO YOU KNOW WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR WHAT IS OUT THERE MAYBE REACHING OUT TO NEW URBAN TO SEE WHAT THEIR MOTIVATION WAS HERE WE'LL TRY AND DO THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL GET ANY RESPONSE BACK. BUT I JUST WANTED TO AT LEAST AS I COULD SPEAK ON THE BEHALF OF THOSE THAT ARE HERE THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED AND TO THE QUESTION ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT I'M GOING TO LOOK AT ERIC. I DON'T THINK THERE'S MANY OTHER AREAS UP IN NORTH LA VERNE THAT EVEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE REZONING SOMEWHAT OR WHAT WOULD BE HERE SO IT'S VERY LIMITED AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY TYPE OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR THANK YOU BOB. YES. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL

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TODAY I RECEIVED AN EMAIL THAT I THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE WITH EVERYBODY TONIGHT. I KIND OF EXPECTED THIS E-MAIL FOR SOME TIME NOW BUT SINCE IT CAME TO ME I GUESS I WAS ON THE DISTRIBUTION BECAUSE OF MY ROLE WITH THE CERT PROGRAM AS THE PROGRAM MANAGER.

BUT IT WAS FROM OUR FORMER FIRE CHIEF CAME TO TO HIS STAFF AND I GUESS I GOT A COPY OF IT FOR THAT REASON AND I THOUGHT ORIGINALLY WHEN I GOT IT YOU KNOW IT WAS IT WAS NICE TO READ IT BUT I E-MAILED THE OUR FORMER FIRE CHIEF BACK AND ASKED ME IF IT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO READ TONIGHT. AND HE GAVE HIS PERMISSION. WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM HIM FOR 18 MONTHS THROUGH ALL THIS. WE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT HIM. NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO HEAR FROM HIM. CERTAINLY RESPECT THAT WITH ALL THE LEGALITY THAT WAS INVOLVED BUT I THOUGHT I'D AS I READ THROUGH THIS THERE WAS A LOT OF WISDOM IN IT AND I THOUGHT NOT ONLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT RECEIVED IT FROM HIM TODAY BUT ALSO FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN THE IN THE WAKE OF WHAT'S GONE ON. SO I THOUGHT I'D SHARE IT. KIND OF ILLUSTRATES THE CLASH AND CHARACTER OF OUR FORMER FIRE CHIEF AND ALSO YOU KNOW I THINK EVEN IN HIS FAREWELL WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IN THIS EMAIL IS THAT HE CONTINUED TO BE A LEADER. SO LET ME READ IT FOR YOU. THIS E-MAIL IS TO ADVISE ALL LV RFD STAFF THAT THURSDAY OCTOBER 30 FIRST 2019 WAS MY LAST DAY AS FIRE CHIEF ALTHOUGH I AM LEAVING LA VERNE. I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMAIN INVOLVED WITH THE FIRE SERVICE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MANY MORE YEARS IN THE PROFESSION I LOVE AND THAT HAS PROVIDED SO MUCH FOR ME AND MY FAMILY OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS AS FIRE CHIEF I HAVE HIRED OR PROMOTED MANY OF YOU EACH TIME WITHOUT EXCEPTION THE INDIVIDUALS SPOKE OF THEIR INTEREST IN HELPING TO IMPROVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SERVING THIS COMMUNITY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO REMEMBER WHY YOU ENTERED THE FIRE SERVICE AND TO ALWAYS PRIORITIZE SERVICE TO OTHERS OVER SELF ESPECIALLY THE CITIZENS OF LA VERNE I LEAVE YOU WITH A FEW FINAL THOUGHTS. I HOPE YOU REMEMBER THAT STATEMENTS MADE REPEATEDLY AND WITH PASSION STILL DO NOT MAKE THEM ACCURATE. THAT IF YOU CAN'T DISAGREE WITH OTHERS RESPECTFULLY YOU WILL LOSE THAT RESPECT THAN ATTACKING THE REPUTATION OF OTHERS TO ADVANCE YOUR NARRATIVE TARNISHES THEIR REPUTATION BUT ALSO YOURS THAT SELECTING WHICH DEPARTMENT RULES YOU WILL FOLLOW ESPECIALLY IF YOU SUPERVISE OTHERS WILL RESULT IN EVERYONE FOLLOWING THE RULES THAT THEY CHOOSE. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS IN OUR PROFESSION. AND FINALLY IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION YOU BECOME PART OF THE PROBLEM. A FIRE CHIEF SHOULD CELEBRATE THE MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS WITH HIS DEPARTMENT BUT MUST ALSO TAKE ACTION WHEN THOSE HIGH EXPECTATIONS ARE NOT MET. THE COMMUNITY WE SERVE THERE DESERVES NO LESS THAN THAT. I WISH YOU ALL WELL BE SAFE AND ALWAYS STRIVE TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF LA VERNE REGARDLESS OF WHAT POSITION YOU HOLD. EACH ONE OF YOU HAS THE POWER TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. RESPECTFULLY PETE JANE KOSKI FIRE CHIEF. LA VERNE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 9 COUNCIL COMMENTS CONFERENCES MEETINGS AND THIS MAYOR BEFORE YOU DO. IF I COULD JUST ADD SOMETHING TO THE END OF THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF CHIEF JANET KOSKI WHOSE RETIREMENT AFTER 20 YEARS WE WILL NOW BE COORDINATING A RECRUITMENT TO PERMANENTLY FILL THE VACANCY AND THAT PROCESS IS EXPECTED TO TAKE THREE TO SIX MONTHS TO DO IT PROPERLY. IN THE MEANTIME WE'LL BE EXPLORING OPTIONS TO TEMPORARILY FILL THE FIRE CHIEF VACANCY CHIEF SUMMERS WHO IS IN THAT ROOM. OH GREAT THERE. THANK YOU. HE SERVED IN THAT AD AND WE'LL STAY ON FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BUT HE DOES HAVE LIMITS UNDER THE CONTRACT THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO HIM UNDER PEARSE SO WE'RE GOING TO CERTAINLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN BUT WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TIME TO EXTEND OUT THROUGH THE ENTIRE RECRUITMENT PROCESS. SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER INTERIM TO FILL IN OVER THAT GAP AND EXPECT TO HAVE THAT WORKED OUT IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. SO I'LL BE BACK TO YOU BEFORE THAT BUT CERTAINLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO UNDERSTAND WE DO HAVE A PLAN GOING FORWARD TO TRY AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT THAT LEADERSHIP IN PLACE. THANK YOU OK COUNCIL COMMENTS. CHARLIE YOU WANT TO START. I KNOW YOU'RE GOOD. I'M JUST

[9. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND CONFERENCE/MEETING REPORTS]

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THERE ARE SOME AMAZING COSTUMES OUT THERE AND THE BEST ONES ARE HANDMADE. THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT CAME DRESSED AS A SHOWER CURTAIN AND IT WAS JUST IT'S LIKE WAIT A MINUTE GET THE CAMERA BECAUSE OF THE SECOND THING IS IS A COUNCIL MEMBER HEPBURN AND I TOGETHER WERE ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON AT THE GLENDORA EPISCOPAL CHURCH TO HONOR A NEW LA VERNE RESIDENT IN THE RECEIVING OF HIS EAGLE BADGE. AND IT WAS SPECTACULAR. WE'VE THESE THESE KIDS ARE AMAZING. I. HE EARNED OVER 30 MERIT BADGES AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE 21 TO BE ABLE TO BECOME AN EAGLE SCOUT. WE HAD AN EAGLE SCOUT IN LA VERNE RECEIVE OVER 100 MERIT BADGES SO IT WAS A ONE TIME I SAW THESE KIDS KNOWLEDGE IS ABSOLUTELY SPECTACULAR. SO LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU. WANT TO GET BACK

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[10. CLOSED SESSION:]

IT'S OTHER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 6 6 8 8. EYES ARE GOING. AND HEADS TO MEET CONFER WITH PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS THE PROPERTY IS 9 1 9 4 3 WHITE AVENUE NEGOTIATOR CITY MANAGER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR THE NEGOTIATING PART OF THE CITY OF EARN AND GOLDLINE FOOTHILL EXTENSION AND THERE ARE TWO CONFLICTS. ONE CONFLICT IS A COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER AS SHE IS ON THE METRO BOARD GOLDLINE BOARD AND AS SUCH SHE CAN'T SERVE ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS. SHE WILL BE CONFLICTING OUT AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBER DAVIS WHO OWNS PROPERTY THAT IS WITHIN THE PROXIMITY OF THE LOCATION. OKAY. OKAY OKAY. AND THERE WILL BE NOTHING TO REPORT OUT OF THAT CASE. WE WILL MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT. AND FIRST OF ALL I'D LIKE TO THANK THE DAVIS FAMILY FOR BEING HERE AND I KNOW ERIC IS HERE. SO THANK YOU ERIC FOR BEING HERE ON SEPTEMBER 30TH A VERY SPECIAL RESIDENT OF LA VERNE PASSED AWAY.

THAT WAS DOROTHY BRANDT DAVIS HAPPENS TO BE NEAR DAVIS HIS MOTHER A NATIVE OF LA VERNE PASSED AWAY WHILE NAPPING AT 1:00 P.M. ON THAT MONDAY. THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO. SHE WAS BORN AT POMONA VALLEY HOSPITAL ON DECEMBER 8TH 1929 JUST AFTER THE DEPRESSION HIT FOLLOWED SHORTLY THEREAFTER BY HER TWIN BROTHER DARRYL. HER PARENTS CATHERINE AND JESSIE BRANT BROUGHT DOROTHY AND GERALD TO JOIN OTHER SIBLINGS BETTY LLOYD AND BERNICE TO THEIR NEW HOME ON 3RD STREET LA VERNE CALIFORNIA. YOUNGEST SISTER MARIAN WOULD BE BORN A FEW YEARS LATER. DOROTHY GRADUATED FROM BEING A HIGH SCHOOL IN 1947 AND LA VERNE RECEIVED HER BACHELOR'S FROM LA VERNE IN 1952. HER MASTERS IN 1971 BOTH FROM LA VERNE COLLEGE AND A JURIS DOCTORATE IN 1976 AFTER THE FACILITY WAS CHANGED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE AS A YOUTH. DOROTHY WAS ACTIVE IN THE CHURCH OF THE BROTHER AND FIRST PEACE CARAVAN MOVEMENT THAT GAVE BIRTH TO VOLUNTEER SERVICE A PACIFIST ALTERNATIVE TO MILITARY SERVICE WHICH I KNOW MEMBERS.

MY MOTHER IN LAW SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY AS WELL AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE ALONG OVER THE YEARS. SHE AUTHORED THREE BOOKS FOR CHILDREN. THE TALL MAN THE MIDDLE MAN AND THE LITTLE MAN ABOUT HIS DORIC OF FIGURES IN THE CHURCH OF THE BROTHER DOROTHY MARRIED J RODNEY DAVIS. ON JULY 12TH OF 1950 WHILE SHE WAS STILL IN COLLEGE.

THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFE TOGETHER THEY DREAMED AND EXECUTED PROJECTS LARGE AND SMALL. THEY SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATED SOCIAL CHANGE AND THEY HAVE CERTAINLY PASSED IT ON TO OTHERS TO THEIR KIDS AND ACTIVELY EMBRACE THE IDEALS OF EQUALITY AND SOCIAL JUSTICE. DOROTHY TAUGHT IN THE CHICAGO PUBLIC DISTRICT IN THE MID 50S UNTIL SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH HER FIRST CHILD. SHE TAUGHT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE ZUSAK SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE 1960S UNTIL WEARING A BLACK ARMBAND IN PROTEST OF THE VIETNAM WAR PROMPTED HER OUSTER. SHE TAUGHT SEWING AND ENGLISH AT MOUNT SAN ANTONIO CONTINUING HIGH SCHOOL IN THE CLAREMONT SCHOOL DISTRICT UNTIL SHE RETIRED IN THE EARLY 1980S. AFTER EARNING HER LAW DEGREE DOROTHY CLERKED FOR JUDGE PAUL EGLEE ON

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WE'RE RECESSED FOR CLOSED SESSION.

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