Jan 21, 2020 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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I'D LIKE TO CALL THE LA VERNE'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER IF WE CAN ALL PLEASE RISE TOGETHER AND JOIN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

READY? BEGIN.

ALLEGIANCE].

ROLE CALL.

COUNCILMEMBER CARDER.

HERE. COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS.

HERE. COUNCILMEMBER HEPBURN.

HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM ROSALES.

HERE. AND MAYOR KENDRICK.

HERE. PERIODICALLY WE HAVE THE HONOR OF PINNING BADGES ON NEW POLICE OFFICERS AND

[a. Badge Pinning - Fire Captain Andy Glaze]

AND TONIGHT WE HAVE THE HONOR OF PINNING A BADGE ON A PROMOTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE DONE BEFORE. BUT DUE TO SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WASN'T ABLE TO DO IT.

BUT TONIGHT WE ARE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THE FIRE CAPTAIN ANDY GLAZE.

WE HAVE AN AT HOME AUDIENCE, SO THEY LIKE TO GET IN ON THESE, TOO, SO WE'LL START OVER.

ANDY WAS BORN AND RAISED IN REDLANDS.

CURRENTLY LIVES THERE WITH HIS WIFE LAUREN, WITH THEIR THREE CHILDREN.

HAYDEN, MARLEY AND PEYTON GRADUATED WITH A BACHELORS DEGREE IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT FROM SKIDMORE COLLEGE.

HE WORKED AT SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY FIRE AS A PARAMEDIC FIREFIGHTER BEFORE COMING TO LA VERNE AS THE SAME IS CURRENTLY THE LA VERNE FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT, AND ANDY IS CURRENTLY SIGNED TO FIRE STATION ONE ON THE C SHIFT.

AND IF COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE, WE'RE GOING TO ASK HIS WIFE TO COME UP AND PUT THE BADGE ON. AND THEN WE LIKE TO HAVE YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR.

IS THERE A PARAMEDIC IN THE HOUSE? [LAUGHTER].

NICE JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST WANT TO THANK MY FAMILY FOR BEING HERE.

DO A LITTLE INTRODUCTION.

I HAVE MY MOM, SALLY, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU JUST MET MY WIFE, LAUREN.

HER DAD, JOEY.

PEYTON IS THE LITTLE TEENY ONE.

ANGIE, LAUREN'S MOM.

MARLEY, THE BIGGER ONE.

MY SON, UNFORTUNATELY, IS REALLY SICK.

AND HE WOULD GET YOU GUYS ALL SICK SO HE COULDN'T MAKE IT.

BUT HE'S GOING TO WATCH IT ON VIDEO.

AND THEN MY BEST FRIEND RYAN, WHO IS ALSO PRESIDENT OF THE POLICE ASSOCIATION IN REDLANDS. SO A GOOD MAN TO KNOW IF YOU LIVE IN REDLANDS LIKE I DO.

SO BEYOND THAT, I MEAN, THAT WAS A GOOD SUMMARY OF WHO I AM BECAUSE I WROTE IT.

SO THE MAYOR DID A GOOD JOB OF READING IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR HONORING ME.

AND I'LL KEEP WORKING HARD FOR LA VERNE.

[b. Mike Shaw Pride of La Verne Award]

THIS WAS TYPICALLY GIVEN OUT AT THE CHRISTMAS LUNCHEON, BUT THE RECIPIENT WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND. SO WE'RE DOING IT HERE.

EACH YEAR IN DECEMBER AN EMPLOYEE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS RECOGNIZED WITH THE MIKE SHAW DEPARTMENT OF LA VERNE AWARD FOR EXCELLENCE AND EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO THE

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EMPLOYEE'S NAME WILL BE ENGRAVED ON A PERPETUAL PLAQUE AND WILL BE DISPLAYED PROMINENTLY IN THE CITY FACILITY.

AND WITH THAT AWARD, I WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE BRING UP DEVON LEONARD, OUR INTERIM POLICE FIRE CHIEF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[APPLAUSE]. THANK YOU, KEVIN.

THE BATTALION CHIEF, KEVIN GREENWAY.

PLEASE. ASK KEVIN, WHO NOMINATED HIM FOR THE MIKE SHAW AWARD.

HE SAID, I HAVE NO IDEA.

SO IT IS OUTSTANDING TO BE ABLE TO SIT UP HERE AND REPRESENT OR STAND UP HERE, REPRESENT KEVIN AND THE LA VERNE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TALK ABOUT THE MIKE SHAW AWARD.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, TALK ABOUT KEVIN.

I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE A FEW WEEKS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS.

A FEW INDIVIDUALS IN DEPARTMENT, MANY INDIVIDUALS, BUT A FEW, THEY'VE REALLY STEPPED OUT AND MADE ME FEEL WELCOME AND TRIED TO MAKE ME FEEL LIKE PART OF THE FAMILY.

AND KEVIN'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE GUYS.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANY ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT NOMINATED KEVIN, REGARDLESS OF WHO IT WAS.

IT WAS WELL DESERVED. AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT I'VE GOT FROM YOU, KEVIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

[c. Teri Muse from Waste Management will give a Year End Review on Waste Management Activities.]

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY.

I'M VERY EXCITED TO GIVE YOU A RECAP OF ALL THAT HAPPENED IN 2019 IN LA VERNE.

FIRST OF ALL, TEN THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED THIRTY FOUR TONS OF MATERIAL WAS DIVERTED FROM THE LANDFILL. THAT'S HOW MUCH LA VERNE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES RECYCLED IN 2019.

MAJORITY OF THAT WAS GREEN WASTE.

AND WE KNOW THAT'S MAKES SENSE AS LOTS OF BIG YARDS.

NICE GREEN BELTS IN WASTE MANAGEMENT IN LA VERNE.

5,893 TONS WERE DIVERTED FROM THE WASTE STREAM.

NEXT TO THAT WAS PAPER, CARDBOARD, GLASS AND METAL.

ALSO THERE WAS 231 TONS OF CONSTRUCTION DEMOLITION MATERIALS THAT WERE DIVERTED FROM THE WASTE STREAM AND RECYCLED.

82 TONS OF BULKY ITEMS: COUCHES, FURNITURE, ALL THOSE LOVELY THINGS THAT YOU PUT OUT FOR BULKY ITEM PICK UP 82 TONS WAS PICKED UP IN 2019 AND ALSO EIGHT TONS OF E-WASTE.

SO THAT'S COMPUTER MONITORS, TELEVISIONS.

THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WERE PICKED UP IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW THAT WE PICKED THEM UP.

WE DO. YOU CAN ALSO SCATTER THAT FOR BULKY ITEM AND THIRTY FIVE TONS OF APPLIANCES, FRIDGE STOVES, SO ON.

SO ONCE A LOT PEOPLE GOT NEW APPLIANCES IN 2019.

ALSO WE COLLECTED A TON OF BATTERIES WHICH MAYBE DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT.

BUT IN TERMS OF BATTERIES, IT'S A LOT.

THERE'S A KIOSK OUTSIDE HERE IN CITY HALL.

THERE'S ONE AT THE SENIOR CENTER WHERE RESIDENTS CAN BRING THEIR BATTERIES TO BE RECYCLED. AND SO A TON WAS COLLECTED AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR CAUSES WE HAVE FOR TRUCK FIRES WHEN BATTERIES ARE PLACED IN EITHER TRASH OR RECYCLING. THEY COME IN CONTACT WITH METAL AND OTHER THINGS AND IGNITE ONCE IT'S INSIDE THE TRUCK. AND THEN WE HAVE A TRUCK FIRE.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THOSE IN LA VERNE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

SO WE'RE GLAD THAT WE'RE PEOPLE ARE DIVERTING IT FROM THE WASTE STREAM.

ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY IS AWARE THERE ARE TWO LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN ENACTED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AFFECT MAINLY BUSINESSES AND MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES.

AND ONE OF THEM IS REQUIRING BUSINESSES AND MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES TO DO A REGULAR RECYCLING PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHAT YOU ALL DO AT HOME.

BUT ALSO THERE'S A NEW PROGRAM THAT CAME INTO EFFECT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHICH REQUIRES THEM TO RECYCLE ORGANIC WASTE AND GREEN WASTE.

THAT'S A BIG CHANGE FOR BUSINESSES.

AND IT'S BEEN A REAL CHALLENGE TO GET THEM ON BOARD BECAUSE IT MEANS THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY DO THINGS.

A SEPARATE CONTAINER.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S JUST A CHANGE OF BEHAVIOR.

BUT IT WAS REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY JUMPED FROM 10 TO 55 BUSINESSES IN 2019 THAT SIGNED ON TO DO ON ORGANICS RECYCLING PROGRAM.

SO THAT WAS A REALLY POSITIVE THING THAT HAPPENED, TOOK A LOT OF EDUCATION, A LOT GOING BACK TO THE BUSINESSES AND TALKING WITH THE WITH THE THE EMPLOYEES AND GIVING THEM POSTERS AND GOING BACK SEVERAL TIMES.

BUT IT'S WORKING.

AND ALSO GRACE MILLER ELEMENTARY STARTED AN ORGANICS RECYCLING PROGRAM.

AND YOU KNOW, THOSE KIDS, THEY DO SUCH A GREAT JOB.

THEY REALLY DO. AND THEY WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT ABOUT DOING THIS AND THE COURSE.

THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO START BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GO HOME AND TELL THEIR PARENTS AND GET THEM, YOU KNOW, INVOLVED, BECAUSE COMING IN 2022, RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RECYCLE ORGANIC FOOD WASTE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE NOT JUST BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO RESIDENTS.

SO WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE A HUGE CHANGE.

AND THIS IS NOT JUST LA VERNE.

IT'S ALL OF CALIFORNIA.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SHOCK TO ANYBODY ONCE IT COMES.

THE GOAL OF THAT IS BECAUSE THE STATE WANTS TO DIVERT 75 PERCENT OF THEIR ORGANIC WASTE

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BUT ALSO BECAUSE IN CALIFORNIA, ONE IN FIVE CHILDREN GO TO BED HUNGRY.

SO THE STATE REALLY WANTS TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO DONATE EDIBLE FOOD TO FOOD RECOVERY PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON IDENTIFYING LOCAL AGENCIES THAT WILL TAKE THE FOOD.

THE BEST THING IS TO NOT GET IN THE WASTE STREAM TO BEGIN WITH.

SO THAT'S, OF COURSE, NOT TO NOT TO BUY SO MUCH, YOU KNOW.

WE ALL CAN REDUCE WHAT WE BUY IN TERMS OF FOOD.

WE ALL BUY TOO MUCH.

IT ALSO IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE CITY IN THAT THE CITIES CAN BE REQUIRED TO PASS ORDINANCES TO ENFORCE THESE THESE LAWS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S NEW.

THE STATE HASN'T ASKED THAT YET, BUT NOW ASKING THAT WHAT THIS NEW LAW.

AND ALSO CITIES HAVE TO PROCURE RECYCLED PRODUCTS AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO USE NATURAL BURNING GAS VEHICLES.

SO IT'S A BIG CHANGE FOR EVERYBODY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE BECAUSE ALSO ON TOP OF THE LAWS, EVERYONE'S HEARD THAT THERE'S A CHALLENGE IN THE RECYCLING INDUSTRY THAT CHINA WAS NOT ACCEPTING CONTAMINATED RECYCLABLES. IT CAUSED, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CHANGES BECAUSE MOST OF OUR RECYCLABLES WERE GOING THERE. I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WASTE MANAGER DID NOT SEND ANY PLASTICS TO CHINA.

THEY ALL GO TO MANUFACTURERS WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.

HOWEVER, THEY STILL HAVE THE SAME STRICT LAWS REGARDING REQUIREMENTS REGARDING CONTAMINATION AND STILL IS A BIG PROBLEM OF PEOPLE PUTTING TRASH IN THE RECYCLE RECYCLE BIN OR NON-RECYCLABLE MATERIALS.

SO THAT'S STILL GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF EDUCATION, A LOT OF WORK, TRYING TO GET THAT TO BE ABLE TO THE LAWS ARE GETTING STRICTER AND THE COMMODITY VALUES ARE GOING DOWN.

THE PROCESS IS GOING UP.

IT'S KIND OF THE PERFECT STORM, BUT WE'LL GET THROUGH IT.

WORKING TOGETHER. I KNOW WE'LL GET THROUGH IT.

ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY ENJOY MOST.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE EVERY WEEK PICKING UP YOUR TRASH, BUT WE LOVE TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES AND WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD OUR TRUCKS IN THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE THAT WAS SO MUCH FUN TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE DOWN THE STREETS.

AND IT WAS SO, SO NICE BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE GOING, YAY! THANK YOU FOR PICKING UP MY TRASH OR MY COUCH OR, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST REALLY KIND OF NEAT TO TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY RESPOND LIKE THAT.

ALSO, WE WERE JUST BY THE COMMITTEE YARD SALE BECAUSE THAT'S A GREAT WAY OF DIVERTING THINGS FROM THE TRASH BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO REUSE IT.

AND THOSE THINGS THAT ARE NOT SOLD A YARD SALE GO TO NON-PROFIT THRIFT STORES.

SO WE PARTICIPATE IN THAT TO HELP THEM TO GET THAT DIVERTED FROM THE WASTE STREAM.

WE ALSO LOVE THE SIP OF LA VERNE PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

TASTE OF LA VERNE.

LA VERNE ON TAP.

THE TEACHER OF THE YEAR PROGRAM IS SOMETHING SPONSORED FOR MANY YEARS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND ALSO, WE'RE REALLY PROUD THAT WE'RE THE SOLE SPONSOR FOR THE LA VERNE SAN DIMAS EDUCATION FOUNDATION PERSEVERENCE AWARDS, WHICH ARE REALLY, REALLY JUST AMAZING AWARDS BECAUSE IT HONORS KIDS THAT ARE OVERCOMING CHALLENGES TO CONTINUE EDUCATION.

SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD TO DO THAT.

AND FINALLY, JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE WILL BE DOING PUBLIC TOURS OF OUR RECYCLING FACILITY ON APRIL 22ND, WHICH IS A WEDNESDAY AND SATURDAY 25TH IN HONOR OF EARTH DAY. SO IF YOU HAVE NOT GONE ON A TOUR, I WILL ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME, BECAUSE ANYBODY THAT COMES ON THE TOUR, THEY UNDERSTAND MUCH MORE CLEARLY WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO KEEP TRASH OUT OF RECYCLING BINS, WHY THINGS AREN'T RECYCLABLE.

AND IT'S JUST GOOD TO KNOW ONCE YOU PUT IN THAT RECYCLE CART, WHAT HAPPENS TO IT.

IT'S A GOOD CHANCE TO COME LEARN ABOUT THAT.

SO WE'LL BE TAKING RESERVATIONS FOR THAT.

YOU HAVE TO BE 18 OR OLDER TO COME.

FOR SAFETY REASONS.

IF YOU HAVE A GROUP OF KIDS, WE HAVE ANOTHER TYPE OF A THING WE CAN DO FOR THEM.

LET ME KNOW. WE CAN ALSO ARRANGE THAT.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS OF TERI, ANYBODY.

JUST A COMMENT.

TERI, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

IT'S NICE TO SEE WASTE MANAGEMENT INVOLVED AND THE BENEFITS, ESPECIALLY FOR TEACHER OF THE YEAR. THEY LOOK SO FORWARD TO THAT EVENT.

AND WE GET TO HONOR OUR TEACHERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, TERI. THERE'S ALSO OTHER PARTICIPATION.

AND TERI WAS TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF THE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN OUR SCHOOLS AND THE RECYCLING AND SO FORTH.

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT A REAL TRUE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.

SO I KNOW OUR CITY STAFF IS IS SITS ALONGSIDE IN CREATING THESE PROGRAMS AND HELPING OUR COMMUNITY THE BEST WE CAN BE IN RECYCLING AND GETTING THINGS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TERI AND TRACY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION, AND THE REST OF THE STAFF.

SO THANK YOU.

I THINK THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE OUT, SO IF THEY GET CALLED, I THINK IT WON'T INTERRUPT OUR

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[5. ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UPCOMING COMMUNITY EVENTS]

KRISTA [INAUDIBLE]. KRISTA.

PARDON ME.

OK. NOW IT'S TIME SET ASIDE FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE ANY EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP IN OUR COMMUNITY? HI.

HUGH KELLY WITH LV 3C.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE HAVING A COUNCIL MEMBER DEBATE FORM, WHATEVER YOU WISH TO CALL IT, ON JANUARY 27, NEXT MONDAY NIGHT AT ST.

JOHN'S EPISCOPAL AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

THE DOORS WILL OPEN AT 6:30 AND WE INVITE EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

OK, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 6.

[6. CONSENT CALENDAR]

IS THERE A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. THANK YOU.

MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN.

[Case No. 24-19PPR, 25-19PM, 26-19MPA, 27-19ZC, 90-19VAC, and 88-19GPA – Hillcrest Homes - 2548 Magnolia Avenue, 2551 Park Avenue, and 1619 Hawthorne Avenue]

AND CANDIDATES WILL BE GIVEN THE REPORT.

THERE ARE TWO OF US THAT DO HAVE A CONFLICT.

JIM? BEING ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR HILLCREST FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND ALSO WORKING WITH THE HAWTHORNE PROPERTY.

I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF.

AND I ALSO HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF.

FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, I HELPED HILLCREST GET THE LAST REMAINING PROPERTY AND WAS PAID A SMALL COMMISSION FOR THAT.

BUT BECAUSE I RECEIVED MONEY FOR THAT, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF.

BUT THE NICE THING IS, BECAUSE OF THAT EFFORT, WE GOT A PROJECT.

SO GOOD LUCK.

OKAY. WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS PROPOSED PROJECT BY HILLCREST HOMES INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION OF 14 DETACHED AND ATTACHED SENIOR HOMES ON ABOUT 1.7 ACRES. THIS PROJECT REQUIRES AN UPDATE TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF NEIGHBORHOOD SIX OF THE HILLCREST MASTERPLAN.

ZONE CHANGE.

A PARTIAL MERGER, A PRECISE PLAN REVIEW, STREET VACATION AND A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO FILL FACILITATE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND ABOUT HILLCREST AS IT BEGAN IN 1947 WHEN LA VERNE RESIDENTS PARTNERED WITH THE CHURCH OF THE BRETHREN TO CREATE A RETIREMENT HOME COMMUNITY. OVER THE YEARS, HILLCREST HAS SLOWLY EVOLVED, GROWING TO ACCOMMODATE HEALTH CARE NEEDS FOR THE RISING POPULATION.

THE PROPERTY NOW SPANS MORE THAN 50 ACRES AND HAS UNDERGONE NUMEROUS UPGRADES.

IN 1992, HILLCREST REQUESTED APPROVAL OF A MASTER PLAN APPLICATION WHICH DIVIDED THE COMMUNITY INTO 23 DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE PROPERTY I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS LOCATED IN NEIGHBORHOOD 6, WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWESTERN PART OF THE HILLCREST CAMPUS AND IS ONE OF THE LAST HILLCREST NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE DEVELOPED.

IN 2006, HILLCREST APPLIED FOR A PRECISE PLAN APPLICATION TO DEVELOP NEIGHBORHOOD SIX.

THE PROPOSAL INCLUDED 10 NEW HOMES.

IT WAS A PROJECT.

IT WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT ZONING AND GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATIONS AND THEREFORE WAS EXEMPT FROM SEQUA.

IN 2007, THE ECONOMIC RECESSION AND HOUSING CRISIS LEFT HILLCREST UNABLE TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION OF NEIGHBORHOOD SIX AND LEFT THE SITE UNFINISHED.

SO THIS SHOWS THIS MAP SHOWS THE ENTIRE HILLCREST COMMUNITY AND SHOWS THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING, MEETING HOUSE, AQUATIC CENTER, DINING ROOM, COMMUNITY GATHERING PLACES.

AND THEN THE YELLOW AREA SHOWS THE PROPOSED PROJECT AREA.

SO TODAY THE SITE REMAINS MOSTLY VACANT WITH ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT, WHICH YOU CAN SEE ON THE WEST SIDE HERE.

THIS UNIT WILL BE DEMOLISHED WHEN CONSTRUCTION FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SIX BEGINS.

THERE ARE SIX DIFFERENT CASES THAT NEED TO BE APPROVED WITH THIS PROJECT.

CASE 24 19 WAS CONDITIONALLY APPROVED BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE AND WAS FOR

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CASE 25 19 PARCEL MAP IS FOR THE.

I'M SORRY, PARCEL MERGER WAS FOR MERGING THE THREE LOTS TOGETHER AS ONE.

ALSO, THAT WAS CONDITIONALLY APPROVED BY THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.

CASE 26 19 MPA IS FOR THE MASTER PLAN.

AMENDMENT. 27 19 ZC IS FOR THE ZONE CHANGE.

90-19 VAC IS FOR THE ALLEY VACATION AND 88-19 GPA IS FOR THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, ALL OF WHICH I WILL EXPLAIN IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT ALL OF THESE WERE RECOMMENDED TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO THE REASON THERE'S SO MANY ADDITIONAL CASE FILES AND REQUEST FROM THE FIRST TIME THAT HILLCREST RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE TO DEVELOP THE SITE IS BECAUSE BEFORE THERE WAS ONLY THERE WERE ONLY BUILDING ONE OF THE PROPERTIES AND THAT SITE WAS CONSISTENT WITH ZONING, GENERAL PLAN AND MASTER PLAN, AND THAT CAN BE SEEN HERE.

THAT WAS WHAT WAS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

NOW THEY'RE TAKING THE ENTIRE SITE.

SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

NOW, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND.

I CAN TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

IT'S BOUND BY AN ALLEY TO THE NORTH PARK AVENUE ON THE EAST, HAWTHORNE TO THE SOUTH AND MAGNOLIA TO THE WEST.

THE PROPOSED 14 HOMES WILL CONTINUE THE RESIDENTIAL PATTERN OF THE HILLCREST COMMUNITY AND BE ORIENTED AROUND AN UNGRADED CENTRAL COURTYARD THAT WILL SERVE AS A VITAL GATHERING PLACE FOR ALL OF HILLCREST RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

IN ADDITION TO THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS UPON REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THE APPLICANT WILL WIDEN THE HAWTHORNE STREET AVENUE BY TWO FEET INTO THE LIMITS OF THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY TO THE NORTH.

FURTHERMORE, THE ALLEY FRONTING THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT SITE WILL BE VACATED BY THE CITY. ASSUMING CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THAT, BOLLARDS WILL BE INSTALLED ON EACH SIDE OF THE WALKWAY THAT WILL PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE PROJECT'S CENTRAL COURTYARD AND AN EXISTING COMMUNITY GARDEN TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE.

THE OVERHEAD LINES WILL ALSO BE PLACED UNDERGROUND ON MAGNOLIA AVENUE.

THE 14 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL BE SITUATED AROUND THE SITE WITH A FULLY LANDSCAPED COMMON AREA THROUGH THE CENTER MEANDERING WALKWAY WITH VARIOUS TREES CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS SIX WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.

EACH RESIDENT WILL CONSIST OF TWO BEDROOM.

RESIDENCE WILL CONSIST OF TWO BEDROOMS, TWO BATHROOMS AND A TWO CAR GARAGE.

THE BUILDINGS ALONG MAGNOLIA AND HAWTHORNE AND PARK WILL HAVE A MINIMUM OF A 20 FOOT DRIVEWAY IN LENGTH, AND ALL OF THE UNITS WILL BE SINGLE STORY.

THERE ARE A TOTAL OF EIGHT BUILDINGS PROPOSED.

SIX BUILDINGS ARE TWO UNITS SHARING ONE WALL AND THE OTHER TWO BUILDINGS ARE INDEPENDENT DETACHED HOMES.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT MODELS RANGING IN SIZE FROM ONE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY ONE SQUARE FEET TO ABOUT FIFTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

AND EACH UNIT HAS A SMALL ENCLOSED PATIO.

A TREE ANALYSIS WAS ALSO CONDUCTED BY A CERTIFIED ARBORIST THAT CONCLUDED THERE WERE TWENTY TWO TREES LOCATED ON THE PROJECT SITE, NONE OF WHICH WERE PROTECTED BY THE CITY CODES EXCEPT FOR THE DEODAR CEDAR, WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE PROJECT SITE. AND THAT WILL BE PRESERVED IN PLACE AND PROTECTED IN MITIGATION MEASURES ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS PROTECTED.

SO ALL PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS WILL HAVE TWO CAR GARAGE, LIKE I SAID, AND A DRIVEWAY. HOWEVER, ONLY THE RESIDENTS FACING PARK, HAWTHORNE AND MAGNOLIA SO NINE OF THE UNITS WILL HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO PARK TWO VEHICLES IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.

A TOTAL OF THREE ADDITIONAL GUEST SPACES WILL BE PROVIDED.

THE MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES TWO GARAGE SPACES PER UNIT, PLUS ONE GUEST SPACE PER TWO UNITS FOR RETIREMENT HOUSING.

HOWEVER, IT ALSO STATES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY REDUCE THIS PARKING REQUIREMENT TO NOT LESS THAN .5 SPACES PER UNIT, PLUS ONE GUEST SPACE FOR EVERY FIVE UNITS WHEN THE FACILITY OFFERS A SEPARATE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND TENANT AUTOMOBILES ARE LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES PROVIDED, THEREFORE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DETERMINED THAT THESE CONDITIONS SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE THE NEED FOR ON SITE PARKING.

THEREFORE, THERE IS NOT A THEY DETERMINED THERE IS NO NEED FOR ONE'S GUEST SPACE PER UNIT AND REDUCE THE REQUIREMENT TO ONE FOR EVERY FIVE UNITS.

ONLY REQUIRING THE THREE PROPOSED GUEST PARKING SPACES.

SO THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS AS THEY WANTED TO HAVE OPTIONS FOR THEIR POTENTIAL BUYERS. EACH HOME IS DIFFERENT.

CRAFTSMAN STYLE, INCLUDING STONE WOOD SIDING EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS, ALL PAINTED WITH EARTH TONES, GREENS, BLUES, BROWNS WITH A TOTAL OF REALLY SIX DIFFERENT PLANS.

I'M GOING FAST. YOU HAVE COPIES OF THEM, I BELIEVE.

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THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN MAP TO RE DESIGNATE THE TWO PARCELS TO THE EAST AS COMMUNITY FACILITY AS WELL FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE HILLCREST COMMUNITY, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE IMPLEMENTATION MEASURES LISTED IN THE LAND USE ELEMENT AND THE GENERAL PLAN. SO BASICALLY THE EXISTING HAS THE YELLOW AS LOW DENSITY AND THE PROPOSED EVERYTHING WILL BE COMMUNITY FACILITY.

CURRENTLY THE PROJECT SITE IS DIVIDED INTO THREE DIFFERENT PARCELS AND IS SPLIT INTO TWO DIFFERENT ZONES. THE ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THE TWO PROPERTIES ON THE WEST IS PR 4.5 D, WHICH IS THE YELLOWISH SHADE.

AND THE ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THE PARCEL ON THE EAST IS INSTITUTIONAL, WHICH IS THE BLUE. THE PARCELS WILL BE MERGED INTO ONE PARCEL WITH THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST.

THE FINAL ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT WOULD BE INSTITUTIONAL, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE HILLCREST COMMUNITY.

SO ONLY THE LARGE PARCEL TO THE EAST IS LOCATED WITHIN THE HILLCREST MASTER PLAN TODAY.

THE MASTER PLAN WOULD BE REVISED TO INCLUDE THE TWO ADJACENT PARCELS INTO NEIGHBORHOODS SIX. SO THE BLUE AREA WOULD NOW BE INCLUDED IN NEIGHBORHOOD SIX.

ALSO, STAFF IS PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE MASTER PLAN DESIGN STANDARDS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SIX ONLY. THE CURRENT SET EXTRA SETBACKS ARE MEASURED FROM THE CURB SOMETIMES AND OTHER TIMES IT'S NOT. AND IT'S DOESN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN.

SO THE SITE AND BECAUSE OF THE SITE IS BECAUSE OF THE HAWTHORNE IS A PUBLIC STREET.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE SUCH STRICT SETBACKS LIKE MOST OF THE HILLCREST COMMUNITY.

THEREFORE, THE CHANGES WOULD DEFINE THE SETBACKS FROM THE SPECIFIC STREET, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. SO THE TOP IS THE EXISTING REQUIREMENTS AND THEN THE BOTTOM IS THE PROPOSED.

THE PROPOSED WOULD BE THREE FEET TO THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS REALLY 16 FEET IF YOU'RE MEASURING IT FROM THE CURB, GARAGE DOORS FACING THE STREET WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN A 20 FOOT LONG DRIVEWAY AND THEN THE PARK AVENUE AND MAGNOLIA WOULD BE 10 FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE 25 FEET TO THE CURB.

AND THEN THERE WOULD BE NO SETBACK REQUIREMENTS ON THE ALLEY SINCE HILLCREST OWNS BOTH OF THOSE SIDES. AND THEN THEORETICALLY, THEY WOULD ALSO OWN THE ALLEY.

THE CITY HAS NO USE FOR THE ALLEY AS ITS INTERNAL TO THE HILLCREST CAMPUS AND WILL BE CLOSED TO THROUGH TRAFFIC WITH A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

HOWEVER, DUE TO THE POSTING REQUIREMENTS ON SITE, STAFF IS ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL CONTINUE CASE NUMBER 90 - 19 VAC TO THE FEBRUARY 3RD MEETING FOR REVIEW AT THAT TIME.

STAFF WILL PRESENT THIS TOPIC IN MORE DETAIL AT THAT MEETING.

A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY HILLCREST HOMES TO THE NORTH.

SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO THE SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.

THE HOMES ON THE SOUTH OF THE PROJECT SITE ARE THROUGH LOTS AND THEIR REAR YARDS AND DETACHED GARAGES FACE HAWTHORNE.

THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WILL ALSO BE CONSTRUCTED WITH SIMILAR MATERIALS AS THE SURROUNDING HOMES, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT TO REMAIN COMPATIBLE WITH THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF HAS ENGAGED IN AN INDEPENDENT INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT LSA TO PREPARE AN INITIAL STUDY MITIGATING NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE PROJECT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT AND THE CITY OF LA VERNE'S ENVIRONMENTAL GUIDELINES.

STAFF FINDS THAT WITH CERTAIN MITIGATION MEASURES, THE PROJECT WILL NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

THE INITIAL STUDY IS ALSO ATTACHED FOR YOUR REFERENCE AND WILL ALSO BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING TO REVIEW AS THE VACATION IS ALSO PART OF THAT STUDY. A NOTICE WAS SENT OUT TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, INVITING THEM TO A PUBLIC WORKSHOP THAT WAS HELD IN JULY.

FEW RESIDENTS ATTENDED THE MEETING WITH NO CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED.

A NOTICE FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING WAS MAILED TO ALL ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET AND PUBLISHED IN THE INLAND VALLEY DAILY BULLETIN AND STAFF HASN'T RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK FROM ANY RESIDENTS.

STAFF. THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONDITIONALLY APPROVE CASE NUMBERS 26-19 MPA 27-19 ZC, 90-19 VAC AND 88-19 GPA ADOPTING RESOLUTION NUMBERS 20-01 AND 20-02 AND ORDINANCE NUMBER 1090 BASED ON THIS REPORT AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS CONDITIONALLY APPROVED CASE NUMBER 24-19 PPR AND 2519 PM CONTINGENT OF ALL THE OTHER CASES BEING APPROVED.

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CASE NUMBER 90-19 VAC TO THE FEBRUARY 3RD MEETING TO ENSURE THE REQUIRED ON SITE POSTING IS COMPLETED. THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, D.O.

AND THE APPLICANT MIKE IS THERE ARE BOTH PRESENT AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO HEAR CHARLIE REPEAT ALL THOSE NUMBERS.

I HAVE TO TELL YOU, CANDICE, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST INVOLVED PLANS THAT I'VE SEEN IN SIXTEEN YEARS. THE DEMOLISHING OF A PREVIOUS 2007-2008.

THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE TO THE PROPERTY HAD TO BE ERASED.

WE HAVE PARKING ISSUES.

WE HAVE DESIGN ISSUES.

REALLY INVOLVED REPORT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT OR THE CONSULTANT BEFORE? SURE. MATT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT MATT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS MIKE TOWNSEND, I REPRESENT HILLCREST TODAY.

THANK YOU, CANDICE. HILLCREST IS GRATEFUL FOR ANY OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER SERVE THE OLDER ADULTS OF LA VERNE.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE IS A CULMINATION OF 18 MONTHS OF SERVICE BY A COMMITTEE OF OVER TWO DOZEN INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING RESIDENTS, PROSPECTS, BOARD, COMMUNITY AND FAMILY MEMBERS AND ASSOCIATES.

I'M HONORED TO REPRESENT THEM TODAY.

THE REASON BEHIND ALL THEIR HARD WORK IS THE TRUTH THAT HAWTHORNE IS ESSENTIAL IN MEETING THE FINANCIAL NEEDS OF EXISTING AND FUTURE HILLCREST RESIDENTS.

COINCIDENTALLY, NATIONALLY, 10000 PEOPLE TURN 65 EVERY DAY.

REGIONALLY, THERE'S A HUGE HOUSING SHORTAGE AND LOCALLY, LA VERNE'S HOUSING ELEMENT SPECIFICALLY CALLS FOR MORE SENIOR HOUSING AND OUR HAWTHORNE LOT IS AVAILABLE.

SO HILLCREST NEEDS TO GET BIGGER.

THERE'S A RECOGNIZED NEED FOR SUCH GROWTH AND WITH YOUR SUPPORT, HILLCREST AND HAWTHORNE CAN BE A SOLUTION. HERE ARE SOME KEY POINTS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

WE'RE NOT BUILDING TO CAPACITY OR ASKING ANY UNUSUAL FAVORS.

WE'VE BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE AND APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE CITY. WE'VE BENT THE PROJECT CONSIDERABLY IN MANY WAYS TO COMPLY.

WE'RE LOOKING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR WITH A PROJECT THAT FITS IN AND ADDS VALUE TO THE AREA. THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT WORTHY OF A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECORATION.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS VERY MUCH LIKE THE PREVIOUS HILLCREST DEVELOPMENTS IN THE ADJACENT AREA OAK CREST AND PARK AVENUE HOMES, BOTH BUILT BY HILLCREST IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, BOTH WELL-RECEIVED AND NOW BOTH FULL, EXCEPT THEY'RE GONNA BE BETTER.

OUR NEW HOMES ARE GOING IMPROVEMENTS ON THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE'VE LEARNED A LOT.

THEY ARE SINGLE STORY, THEY ARE LIGHT, BRIGHT, HEALTHY HOMES.

THEY'LL BE CENTERED AROUND A SOCIAL COURTYARD, SENIOR FRIENDLY DESIGNS WITH ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND PART OF OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE.

THERE IS ALSO A VERY CONSUMER ORIENTED UNDERTAKING AT WORK HERE.

BY NECESSITY, THE STATE REQUIRES US TO PRE-SELL THESE HOMES.

50 PERCENT MUST BE PRE-SOLD WITH DEPOSITS BEFORE WE CAN START CONSTRUCTION.

I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT ALL 14 ARE SOLD.

SO THESE ARE NOT SPEC HOMES.

WE KNOW WHO'S MOVING IN AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IN HELPING US DESIGN THESE PROPERTIES. WE BELIEVE THIS WILL BENEFIT ALL THE RESIDENTS AT HILLCREST.

THERE'LL BE INCREASED ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

MOST OF THE PROJECT WILL BE FUNDED BY NEW ENTRANCE FEES.

MARGINAL REVENUES ARE MUCH GREATER THAN MARGINALLY EXPENSES.

SO THE WHOLE CAMPUS WILL BENEFIT.

OUR NEIGHBORS WILL GET A BEAUTIFUL NEW DEVELOPMENT, MUCH LESS IMPACTFUL THAN OTHER OPTIONS. THERE'S GONNA BE LOTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, AS CANDICE HAS SUGGESTED, AND WE'LL BE A FINANCIALLY HEALTHIER NEIGHBOR TO CONTINUE TO SHARE OUR CAMPUS WITH ALL.

FOR THE CITY OF LA VERNE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO BETTER SERVE OLDER RESIDENTS.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU FULFILL THOSE HOUSING MANDATES.

WE'LL BE A STRONGER COMMUNITY PARTNER.

WE'LL HAVE IMPROVED INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE AN OLD HOME AND A MAINTENANCE YARD.

WE'RE PRESERVING OR PLANTING MANY TREES, MORE THAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF THE TREES THAT WERE THERE PREVIOUSLY.

THE HOMES WILL COMPLIMENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S NO COMMON BUILDING BEING BUILT, JUST RESIDENCES.

AND WE FEEL THE COURTYARD WILL BE A CREDIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT BEST OF ALL, GRANDPARENTS ARE JUST GREAT NEIGHBORS.

IN CONCLUSION, THE HAWTHORNE PROJECT OFFERS HOPE AND HEALTH TO HILLCREST.

IT ADDRESSES SOCIETAL NEEDS.

IT WILL BE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

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WE'LL HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT FOR CONCERNS.

THAT'S ME. WE'RE JUST NOT AN OUT OF TOWN DEVELOPER.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO WELCOME OUR NEIGHBORS ONTO OUR VERY UNUSUAL OPEN CAMPUS.

AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOVE AND CARE FOR LA VERNE'S OLDER ADULTS.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? WONDERFUL. NO, SIMPLY A STATEMENT THAT A FEW FAMILIES THAT I KNOW WILL NOW ALLOW ME TO VISIT WITH THEM AGAIN.

NOW THAT THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU. MATTHEW.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? THANK YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST EXPRESS MY GREAT APPRECIATION TO THE MAYOR OF THE CITY.

EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND FOR THE CITY STAFF, ESPECIALLY CANDICE, FOR ALL OF HER WORK AND THE GREAT COOPERATION, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND CONGRATULATE MY STAFF FOR THE EXCELLENT WORK THAT THEY DID IN PLANNING AND INVOLVING ALL THE RESIDENT VOLUNTEERS, PERSPECTIVE RESIDENTS AND MANY OTHERS WHO'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW.

IN THE DETAILED PLANNING AND WE'RE SO PLEASED THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PRESENT IT TO YOU AND AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR DECISION THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MATTHEW. OK, THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PROJECT. NOT SEEING ANY HANDS OR ANY TAKERS.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OK. THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE RECOMMENDED THE CITY COUNCIL CONDITIONALLY APPROVE.

CASE NUMBER 26-19 MPA, 17-19 ZC, 90-19 VAC AND 88-19 GPA AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBERS 20-01 20-02 AND ORDINANCE 1090.

THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE US TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE 24-19 PPR AND 25-19 PM AND HOLD AN ABEYANCE UNTIL OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

90-19 VAC TO ENSURE THE REQUIRED ON SITE POSTING IS COMPLETED.

IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED. A SECOND? SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

ORDINANCE 1090 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LA VERNE APPROVING CASE 27-19 ZC A REQUEST BY HILLCREST HOMES TO CHANGE THE ZONE DESIGNATION FROM PR 4.5 D TO INSTITUTIONAL FOR THE SITE LOCATED AT 1619 HAWTHORNE AND 2549 MAGNOLIA.

I SAID THAT. I HAVE TO READ IT. DID YOU VOTE? YES, I VOTED. UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.

OK. YOU COULD ASK HIM TO COME IN IF YOU WANT TO.

WE WILL WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT OTHER MATTERS.

[Urgency Ordinance No. 1091 ]

CITY MANAGER BOB. YES, MR. MAYOR. THIS URGENCY ORDINANCE IS BROUGHT TO YOU OUT OF THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL.

AT YOUR LAST MEETING IN DECEMBER, YOU RECEIVED SOME TESTIMONY REGARDING SOME SHORT TERM RENTALS. AT THAT POINT, YOU ASKED STAFF TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT PUTTING TOGETHER A MORATORIUM FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TONIGHT.

THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS DONE THAT.

THIS PROPOSED MORATORIUM WILL PROVIDE A 45 DAY PAUSE BUTTON ON ANY SHORT TERM RENTALS.

THOSE ARE CONSTITUTED AS ANY RENTALS THAT ARE LESS THAN 30 DAYS THAT IS INTENDED TO GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND DO SOME RESEARCH AS TO WHAT WOULD BE SOME

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BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION AND IS BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

YOU DO HAVE A SET OF SPEAKER CARDS THAT PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALSO RECEIVED SOME CORRESPONDENCE OVER THE WEEKEND, WHICH WE HAVE PRINTED OUT ON OUR IN FRONT OF THE DIAS FOR YOU.

WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR YOU CAN OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT.

GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST.

YES. OK.

WE ARE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKER CARDS.

IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ISSUE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SPEAK FILL OUT OF SPEAKER CARD. YOU CAN DO IT BEFORE OR AFTER.

THERE'S BLUE CARDS AT THE PODIUM.

AND FIRST UP IS GEORGE RICHARDS.

GEORGE. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE OF SHORT TERM RENTALS.

I WOULD URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BAN AND ALLOW US TO UTILIZE OUR EMPTY BEDROOMS AS SHORT TERM RENTALS. THIS DOES NOT TAKE AWAY FROM HOUSING SINCE WE DON'T RENT OUT THE ENTIRE HOUSE FOR THE SHORT TERM STAYS.

WE HAVE PROVIDED A PLACE FOR STUDENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE AND OTHER LOCAL COLLEGES WHO COME FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD TO STUDY AND EXPERIENCE OUR AMERICAN CULTURE. WE ALSO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR TRAVELERS TO STAY FOR A REASONABLE PRICE.

WE ARE CONSIDERATE OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND I ASSURE YOU THAT WE DO NOT ALLOW ANY WILD PARTIES OR DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.

THE VISITORS THAT WE HAVE HAD SPEND MONEY AT THE LOCAL STORES AND RESTAURANTS, WHICH BRINGS INCOME TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND PLEASE ALLOW US TO USE OUR HOMES FOR SHORT TERM VISITS.

THANK YOU, GEORGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CORRESPONDENCE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. ELIETTA MORENO. I DIDN'T GET THAT NAME E-L-I-E-T-T-A. ELLIETTA.

MORENO. PULL HE MICROPHONE DOWN.

THANK YOU, ROBIN, FOR NOTICING.

GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US TIME ONCE AGAIN TO DISCUSS A SITUATION THAT AFFECTS OUR LIVES AND CONTINUES TO AFFECT OUR EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL HEALTH.

MY NAME'S ELLIETTA MORENO.

I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF LA VERNE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

MY HUSBAND AND I TOOK MANY YEARS TO DECIDE TO MOVE FROM GLENDORA TO THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF LA VERNE, WHERE WE HEARD IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE.

WE FELT OUR CHILDREN WOULD THRIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, HAVE A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD TO PLAY AND LIVE IN. AND FOR THE MOST PART, WE MADE AN EXCELLENT CHOICE.

WE HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH MOSTLY A FRIENDLY AND SUPPORTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE COULD NOT FORESEE THE FUTURE.

WE NEVER THOUGHT THAT PURCHASING IN THE CITY LA VERNE MEANT WE COULD POSSIBLY END UP LIVING BY A HOME, BEING USED AS A WEDDING VENUE BECAUSE AFTER ALL, WE PURCHASED IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA IN LA VERNE.

AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS OF LOUD PARTIES ENDING WAY PAST MIDNIGHT TRAFFIC CONSISTING OF INTOXICATED PEOPLE LIMIT LEAVING PARTIES, PEOPLE GETTING INTO ARGUMENTS IN OUR FRONT YARDS LATE IN THE NIGHT AFTER THE EVENTS, FINDING BROKEN BOTTLES AND TOSSED CANS IN OUR FRONT YARDS, HAVING HIGH TRAFFIC AS GUESTS ARE SHUTTLED BACK AND FORTH FROM LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS TO THE PROPERTY.

SOME NEIGHBORS STARTED A PETITION TO STOP THE WEDDINGS.

THE PROBLEM DID NOT REALLY GO AWAY.

IT JUST SLOWED DOWN AND SLOWLY CONVERTED INTO AN AIR B&B.

THE AIR B&B HAS PRODUCED MANY OF THE SAME PROBLEMS PARTIES, STRANGERS COMING AND GOING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE OUR CHILDREN PLAY.

HAVING A CODE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS WOULD BE A START TO HELPING THE PROBLEM.

HOWEVER, THE FINES NEED TO BE SUFFICIENT AND ON THE INCREASE SUFFICIENTLY FOR RE-OCCURRING OFFENDERS.

BUT LIKE ANY LAW BROKEN, THAT PERSON SHOULD LOSE THE PRIVILEGE AND LOSE THEIR LICENSE.

SOME WITH IT WITH A LATE FLAGRANT VIOLATIONS SHOULD BE CLOSED DOWN AFTER ONE WARNING.

HAVING A CODE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS DOES NOT HELP US WITH THE FLAGRANT VIOLATORS.

WE ARE ASKING FOR A CODE FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS WITH A MONETARY FINE FOR PEOPLE THAT THAT ADVERTISE.

WE'RE PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU.

AND WE DESERVE TO LIVE IN A HOME THAT WE FEEL SAFE EVERY NIGHT THAT WE FEEL OUR CHILDREN

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HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO AN AIR B&B WITH ALL HONESTY? AND WHAT ABOUT THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES AND OUR PROPERTY? I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

KELLY RACINE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KELLY RACINE AND I LIVE AT 5075 OLD RANCH ROAD.

WE LIVED IN OUR HOME FOR CLOSE TO 7 YEARS.

WHEN WE FIRST LOOKED AT THE HOME, WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND US HOSTED WEDDINGS AND HAD PEOPLE PARK AT OAK MESA ELEMENTARY AND THEN WOULD SHUTTLE THE GUESTS IN BY BUS TO BE DROPPED OFF AT HER PROPERTY.

WHY AM I BRINGING THIS UP? I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THE PROBLEM STARTED BEFORE THE AIR B&BS.

THIS WAS HAPPENING EVERY WEEKEND, MUCH TO THE DISMAY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

PUMPING MUSIC, PEOPLE WALKING BACK TO THEIR CARS AND UNNECESSARY SAFETY CONCERNS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORS WHO NO LONGER LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WENT DOOR TO DOOR, CREATING A PETITION WITH OVER 300 PEOPLE TO SHUT THIS PROPERTY DOWN WITH THE WEDDINGS.

THIS NEIGHBOR WAS DISTURBING THE PEACE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR MONETARY GAIN.

THIS PROBLEM WITH THE WEDDING WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE SAN GABRIEL VALLEY TRIBUNE.

NOT EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT TO PUBLICIZE THE SWEET CITY OF LA VERNE.

SO, IN FACT, THIS IS THE SECOND PETITION TO CIRCULATE AROUND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE EXACT SAME OWNER WITH NO DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, ALL WHILE BEING REPEATEDLY PUTTING THE SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO QUESTION.

TWO YEARS AGO, WHEN I CALLED THE CITY TO ASK ABOUT AIR B&B BUSINESS IN LA VERNE AND SEE IF THEY WERE OKAY AND LA VERNE, I WAS TOLD YES, THEY WERE OK.

HOWEVER, THEY NEEDED TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE, AND AT THAT TIME THE HOMEOWNER DID NOT HAVE ONE. I WAS TOLD BY ERIC IN THE CITY PLANNING OFFICE I COULD DO A PETITION WHEN I WAS NINE MONTHS PREGNANT WITH TWO OTHER CHILDREN THAT WERE 6 AND 4 AT THE TIME, JUST SIMPLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE'VE WATCHED AS THE AIR B&B HAS GONE FROM TWO TO FOUR ROOMS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS ALONE.

IT HAS DOUBLED IN SIZE AND STILL HAS ROOM TO DOUBLE AND WITHIN THE LAST MONTH HAS DROPPED BACK DOWN TO TWO ROOMS. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT MY HUSBAND AS WELL AS OTHER NEIGHBORS DO NOT.

WE DO NOT CARE IF YOU RENT YOUR HOME OR YOU RENT OUT YOUR ROOMS, BUT PLEASE FOR A MINIMUM OF A MONTH. JUST LIKE THE WEDDING BUSINESS, PEOPLE COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ONE NIGHT WITH NO RESPECT OR WHO OR WHAT ARE AROUND THEM.

AND THE NEXT DAY THEY ARE OFF.

WHILE WE REMAIN LIVING NEXT TO A NIGHT BY NIGHT RENTAL.

THE WEDDING BUSINESS AND THE AIR B&B BUSINESS IS THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS MODEL.

THEY ARE TRANSITORY PEOPLE COMING IN FOR ONE NIGHT AND THEY SIMPLY WON'T BE BACK.

THERE IS NO WAY TO TRACK THESE PEOPLE.

THERE IS NO WAY TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S COMING INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE IS A VETTING PROCESS, THE VETTING PROCESS.

AS YOU GO ONLINE, YOU CREATE AN ACCOUNT WITH AIR B&B AND YOU SIMPLY RENT THE ROOM.

I'VE DONE IT MYSELF DOWN AT THE BEACH WHERE A FAMILY VACATION.

I HAVEN'T DONE IT IN A SUBURB.

THIS COMES DOWN TO RISK VERSUS REWARD.

DOES THIS RISK FAR OUTWEIGH THE REWARD? IT DOES. WOULD YOU LIKE TO LIVE NEXT TO ONE OF THESE HOMES? WE ARE NOT THE FIRST FAMILY TO LIVE IN THIS HOUSE AND HAVE ISSUES WITH THIS NEIGHBOR.

AND THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBOR IS MONETIZING THIS PROPERTY FOR THE SECOND TIME.

THE [INAUDIBLE] FAMILY WAS HAPPY TO SELL US THEIR HOME AND WE WERE SO HAPPY TO PURCHASE IT. WE LOOKED FOR TWO YEARS FOR A PROPERTY IN LA VERNE.

WE HAD SPECIFICS OF EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED.

WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT WE'VE GOT THIS HOUSE.

MY HUSBAND AND I WERE IN CHURCH AND WE COULDN'T HELP.

I JUST STARTED CRYING.

WE FELT SO THANKFUL TO GET THIS HOUSE.

I CAN'T TELL YOU. THIS FAMILY THAT LIVED IN THE HOUSE HAS EXPERIENCED THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE, BUT WITH COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.

THEY WENT THROUGH IT WITH THEIR KIDS, WITH THE WEDDING BUSINESS, AND NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT WITH OUR KIDS LIVING NEXT TO AN AIR B&B.

WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THE FAMILY THAT WANTED US TO HAVE THE HOUSE.

AND WE GAVE THE NEIGHBOR A FAIR SHAKE, JUST AS RYAN AND I WOULD TO ANYONE.

IF YOU KNOW RYAN AND I YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE EXTREMELY FAIR PEOPLE.

WE DO NOT WANT TO TAKE AWAY HER RIGHT TO RUN OUT HER HOME, NOR WOULD WE WANT ANYONE TO DO THAT TO US. HOWEVER, WE SIMPLY ONLY WANT IT TO BE 30 DAYS OR GREATER.

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WE'RE SUPPORTIVE NEIGHBORS.

WE'RE THE PARENTS THAT VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING THAT OUR CHILDREN NEED.

WE'RE THE NEIGHBORS. AND WHEN WE FIND OUT THAT THERE IS SOMEONE THAT HAS BEEN WIDOWED ON THE STREET OR THAT IS SIMPLY ALONE, COME TO OUR HOUSE FOR CHRISTMAS BREAKFAST.

HOW MANY OF YOU CAN SAY THAT ABOUT ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS? PROBABLY NOT A LOT. THAT'S WHO RYAN AND I ARE.

WE'RE INVOLVED WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY IN THE COMMUNITY AND STRONGLY INVOLVED IN OUR CHURCH COMMUNITY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT I LIVE NEXT TO IS SUING THE CITY. HOWEVER, IT SHOULDN'T STOP YOU FROM DOING YOUR JOB OR HELPING OUR FAMILY AND OTHER NEIGHBORS ON THIS STREET, AS WELL AS THE OTHER NEIGHBORS IN THE ESPERANZA NEIGHBORHOOD TO SAFEGUARD US FROM NIGHT BY NIGHT RENTERS COMING IN.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND STOP THE NIGHT BY NIGHT RENTALS.

WE HOPE THIS NEIGHBOR IS ABLE TO RENT OUT THE ROOMS ON A LEASE OR AT A MINIMUM OF 30 NIGHTS AT A TIME. PLEASE HAVE THE INCOME AND USE YOUR PROPERTY AS YOU WISH, BUT WITHOUT PLACING OTHER NEIGHBORS AND CHILDREN IN JEOPARDY.

MY HUSBAND AND I ARE NOT UNREASONABLE PEOPLE.

WHEN WE MOVED INTO THIS PROPERTY, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE WEDDING BUSINESS HAD STOPPED AND INDEED IT HAD STOPPED.

BUT SHE WAS STILL HAVING OCCASIONAL WEDDINGS.

OUR HOUSE HAS BEEN EGGED FROM PEOPLE THAT WE FEEL THAT AS RETALIATION FOR CALLING INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE WEDDINGS, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME TO OUR DOOR AND BE BELLIGERENT WITH US.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE PULL UP ON THEMSELVES UP ONTO THE WALL AND WE'VE BEEN OUT IN OUR BACKYARDS AND SCREAM OBSCENITIES AT US IN FRONT OF OUR CHILDREN WITH MY PARENTS PRESENT.

WE'RE TIRED. WE ARE TIRED.

I WANT TO READ YOU A FEW REVIEWS.

THEY HAVE BEEN PLACED ON AIR B&B.

SO LAST MONTH THEY HAD PEOPLE CONTACT ME AND ASKED ME, HEY, WHAT DID YOU GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I GAVE THE CITY COUNCIL.

I GAVE THEM COPIES OF ACTUAL REVIEWS THAT WERE ON THE AIR B&B WEB SITE FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY.

DOMINIQUE DECEMBER TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN.

THIS HOUSE WAS VERY UNIQUE AND COMFORTABLE.

WE STAYED FOR TWO NIGHTS AND IT WAS LOVELY, HAD A FEW PROBLEMS WITH OWNER DUE TO AN EXTRA UNEXPECTED GUEST.

A FRIEND OF MINE GOT TOO DRUNK TO DRIVE, SUGGESTED HE COULD SOBER UP AT THE AIR B&B BEFORE HE DROVE IN PARENTHESES.

WHO WANTS A DRUNK DRIVER ON THE ROAD? THE OWNER DID NOT UNDERSTAND.

SHE ACTED LIKE WE WERE DESTROYING HER HOUSE AND ENDED UP KICKING US OUT AT 5 A.M.

JUST WHAT I WANT AS A NEIGHBOR TO HAVE A DRUNK DRIVER LEAVE A PROPERTY.

WOULD YOU LIKE THAT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? VANESSA AND PETER.

JULY 2019.

BEAUTIFUL HOME ROOM WAS CLEAN AND VERY CUTE.

LOTS OF CHARM AND PERSONAL TOUCH LOCATED IN A LOVELY NEIGHBORHOOD.

CHECK-IN PROCESS WAS VERY DETAILED AND HELPFUL.

THEY ARE VERY SUSPICIOUS.

SPECIFIC HOUSE RULES WHICH ARE FAIR AND REASONABLE.

HOWEVER, WE WERE A BIT DISAPPOINTED WITH THE NOISE ENFORCEMENT SINCE WE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO BE QUIET AND RESPECTFUL BY THE 10:00 P.M.

MARK. BUT WE'RE WOKEN UP WITH LOUD NOISE BY OTHER TENANTS AT 4:00 A.M.

A MESSAGE WAS SENT TO HOST, BUT NO RESPONSE.

AFTER AN HOUR OF WAITING FOR HOST TO RESOLVE THE NOISE SITUATION WITH STILL NO RESPONSE.

WE HAD TO PERSONALLY APPROACH THE OTHER TENANT TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE.

WHAT WAS DISAPPOINTING WAS THAT THE HOSTS DID NOT RESPOND OR EVEN FOLLOW UP ABOUT IT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO LIVE NEXT TO THIS? ONE MORE, KELLY. ONE MORE.

ONE MORE AND I'LL BE DONE. ALEX.

FEBRUARY, 2019.

WE ARRIVED LATE FROM A LONG DRIVE TO ALL THE LIGHTS BEING OFF OUTSIDE AND INSIDE THE HOUSE. ALSO, WE HAD TO HELP OTHER GUESTS ENTER THE HOUSE WITH OUR CELL FLASHLIGHTS.

ONE OF THESE GUESTS BEING ELDERLY AND NEEDING A CANE.

APPARENTLY THERE IS A SILENT ALARM WITH NO INSTRUCTIONS AS TO USE A DIFFERENT DOOR.

SHE MESSAGED ME TO USE A DIFFERENT DOOR, SO I USE THE SIDE DOOR AS INSTRUCTED BECAUSE I HAD TO BE OUT OF THE HOUSE AT 5 A.M.

NOWHERE IN THE MESSAGE DID IT STAY OTHER TIMES, ASIDE FROM 5 A.M.

TO USE THE SIDE DOOR, WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM? BECAUSE WHEN THE SILENT ALARM GOES OFF, WHO SHOWS UP? LA VERNE P.D. SHOWS UP.

IF LA VERNE PD DOESN'T KNOW WHO'S IN THE HOUSE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? THEY AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME.

RIGHT. THIS IS THIS IS AN INTRUDER.

THEY DON'T KNOW THEM FROM ADAM.

SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME.

PUT A MORATORIUM ON IT AND PLEASE, WHEN YOU PASS THIS.

THINK OF EVERYONE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THINK OF THE WEDDING ISSUES AND PLEASE ATTACH A FINE TO IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KELLY.

OLIVIA SERGEANT. GOOD

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AND ALSO EXCUSE ME, THE MEMBERS OF OUR CITY, BECAUSE TO ME, I'M MY NAME'S OLIVIA SARGENT.

I'M AN AIR B&B HOST AND I.

JUST DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS. OH, I'M SORRY.

AND I HOSTED ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND.

HE'S UNFORTUNATELY NOT HERE THIS EVENING.

HE'S TAKING CARE OF OUR SON.

I JUST I WROTE YOU ALL A LETTER OVER THE WEEKEND, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO PUT A FACE TO THIS LETTER. I WAS EXTREMELY PERTURBED BY ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT I WASN'T ABLE UNABLE TO ATTEND DURING OUR LAST MEETING.

I CAN COMPLETELY RELATE AND UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION THAT THESE GUESTS ARE THESE NEIGHBORS ARE HAVING WITH THESE AIR B&BS.

MY HUSBAND AND I, WE RENTED A TWO NIGHT MINIMUM.

WE HAVE. WE LIVE ON THE PROPERTY AND WE MAKE IT EVERY EFFORT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S COMING TO OUR HOME. IT SOUNDS UNFORTUNATELY LIKE THE ONES THAT HAVE CURRENTLY BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS. IT SOUNDS LIKE TWO SPECIFIC ONES.

THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT.

AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, I WOULD HATE FOR US TO LOSE OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY AS A CITY TO GET RID OF AIR B&B.

BUT I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE REGULATIONS.

THERE ARE OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA THAT DO SIMILAR THINGS.

THEY OFFER AN OCCUPANCY TAX, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY. IT WOULD BE EXTRA FUNDS THAT COULD BE USED TOWARDS WHATEVER MAY BE NEEDED.

THERE'S A MINIMUM BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO FOR OUR HOME EXAMPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S JUST A LITTLE UNDER SIX HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.

WE ONLY ALLOW TWO GUESTS PER NIGHT SO WE'D NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN ALLOW A PARTY TO HAPPEN AT OUR HOME BECAUSE THERE'S A MINIMUM.

I'M THERE. I KNOW WHAT TIME THEY ARRIVE.

SO I'M THERE TO MEET THEM.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE COULD DO TO LIMIT THE VERY SAD AND DISTRAUGHT NEIGHBORS THAT WHAT THEY'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH.

I WOULD WELCOME YOU TO, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY READ OUR POSITIVE REVIEWS.

WE LIVE JUST INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

ALL OF OUR GUESTS THAT COME, THEY ALL FOR THE MAJORITY ARE COMING TO VISIT THE COLLEGES, VISIT FAMILY MEMBERS.

YOU'D BE SURPRISED TO HEAR THIS, BUT THERE'S LIKELY SOME OF YOUR IN RETURN FAMILY AND FRIENDS HAVE ACTUALLY STAYED AT OUR AIR B&B BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING HERE BECAUSE THEY USED TO BE FORMER RESIDENTS OF LA VERNE AND THEY WANT TO COME BACK AND VISIT.

WE DON'T HAVE HOTELS OR MOTELS HERE IN LA VERNE.

I'M SURE THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE PEOPLE HERE.

I CURRENTLY HAVE A GUEST AS WE SPEAK THIS EVENING.

THEY'RE HERE FOR SEVEN DAYS.

THEY'RE ATTENDING A SEWING CONVENTION AT THE ONTARIO CENTER.

AND THEY CHOSE TO STAY IN LA VERNE VERSUS STAYING IN ONTARIO.

THEY'RE SHOPPING AT OUR GROCERY STORES.

THEY'RE SHOPPING AT OUR SHOPS AND THEY'RE STAYING AT OUR RESTAURANTS.

I JUST WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE SPEAK WITH SOME OF THE OTHER AIR B&B HOSTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, THAT HAVE NOT HAD COMPLAINTS, THAT HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT A POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND ALLOW THAT TO POSSIBLY CHANGE THE PERCEPTION AND CHANGE WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THESE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES AND THESE NIGHT BY NIGHT RENTALS.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, OLIVIA.

KIM HERRERA.

HELLO, EVERYONE. I'M KIM HOLDER HERRERA AND I SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU MAY REMEMBER ME, SO I WON'T GET INTO EVERYTHING THAT I SAID LAST WEEK, BUT I LIVE AT 2438 8TH STREET.

I HAVE I AM A PROPERTY OWNER AND I HAVE OFFERED MY PROPERTY AS A LONG TERM RENTAL PREVIOUSLY TO MY SHORT TERM RENTAL WITH AIR B&B AND I'VE DONE THAT FOR THE PAST YEAR WITH A LOT OF SUCCESS.

I DID SOME RESEARCH AND CHOSE TO USE AIR B&B TO HELP ME ESTABLISH TO HELP ESTABLISH MYSELF AS A HOST.

I ALSO TRIED WITH VRB0 FOR A WHILE, BUT DROPPED THAT AS THAT, WASN'T.

IT HAD INACTIVITY.

SO I I REALLY LIKE THE WAY AIR B&B WORKS.

SO DURING THE PAST YEAR I HAVE GAINED STATUS AS WHAT IS CALLED A SUPER HOST, WHICH MEANS I'M HIGHLY RATED, EXPERIENCED AND KNOWLEDGEABLE.

AND MY GUESTS LOOK AT THAT.

THEY WANT TO COME BECAUSE I AM A SUPER HOST AND I WORK HARD TO MAINTAIN THIS RATING AND TO KEEP AND TO CONTINUE TO OFFER A BEAUTIFUL, CLEAN, RELAXING AND SAFE PLACE FOR VISITORS THAT COME TO OUR COMMUNITY OF LA VERNE.

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LAST WEEK, I HAD A COUPLE FROM DENMARK STAYING WITH ME.

THEY STAYED FOR EIGHT DAYS.

I HAVE MANY PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

I HAVE PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL FOR BUSINESS.

AND IN FACT, I HAVE A WOMAN THAT'S STAYING WITH ME NOW THAT IS ALSO GOING TO THE QUILT CONVENTION. SHE CHOSE TO STAY HERE INSTEAD OF CLAREMONT AND ONTARIO.

OKAY. A LITTLE BIT. A BIT.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BUSINESS.

I'VE BUILT UP THIS THIS BUSINESS AND I'VE BUILT A GOOD REPUTATION AND HEALTHY BUSINESS HERE IN LA VERNE. AND I HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THESE FUTURE GUESTS FOR 2020 AS WELL AS 2021.

AND I EXPECT TO GENERATE APPROXIMATELY SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND TO SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

THAT'S 2020 AND 2021.

2019, I GROSSED.

THAT WAS MY FIRST YEAR.

I GROSSED THIRTY TWO THOUSAND.

SO IT IS IT HAS BECOME A REAL JOB FOR ME.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE STAY WITH ME, STAY BETWEEN TWO AND FIVE DAYS.

GENERALLY, I HAVE PEOPLE THAT STAY FOR TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS.

I HAVE A YOUNG WOMAN THAT STAYING WITH ME LATER IN THE YEAR FOR THREE MONTHS AND SHE'S FINISHING UP HER COLLEGE PROGRAM AT CASA COLINA.

AND I OFTEN HAVE REQUESTS FOR THAT KIND OF STAY, BUT MOST OF MY PEOPLE STAY BETWEEN 3 AND 5 DAYS. OK, SO IF I'M AM FORCED TO CANCEL AND ABANDON THESE RESERVATIONS, MY REPUTATION WILL BE DESTROYED AND MY INCOME WILL BE WILL END.

I DON'T SEE MYSELF GOING BACK TO LONG TERM RENTALS.

I DON'T SEE A DIFFERENCE.

EXCEPT IT'S IT'S MORE WORK FOR ME TO HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT IT'S WORK THAT I ENJOY AND I'M MAKING MORE MONEY AT IT.

BUT I REALLY ENJOY IT.

AND I REALLY AM HAPPY TO OFFER A GOOD SAFE.

BUT AS I SAID, BEAUTIFUL SPOT FOR MY GUESTS.

OK, SO I DO HAVE THESE LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACTS WITH MY GUESTS AND WITH AIR B&B AND MONEY HAS BEEN EXCHANGED BETWEEN THE PARTIES.

I DON'T RECEIVE IT UNTIL THE GUESTS COMPLETE THEIR FIRST NIGHT WITH ME, BUT AIR B&B HAS ALREADY COLLECTED IT AND ARE HOLDING IT FOR ME.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, IF THESE CONTRACTS AREN'T HONORED, I'M GOING TO BE PENALIZED AND POSSIBLY LAWSUITS THAT WILL BE ISSUED AGAINST ME.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

I PROMISED THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE A PLACE HERE AND I'M COMMITTED TO IT.

OK. THE OTHER THING IS.

RECENTLY I HAVE BECOME THE SOLE FINANCIAL PROVIDER FROM MY HOUSEHOLD, WHICH CONSISTS OF MY HUSBAND AND I. OUR CHILDREN ARE GROWN AND THEY'RE OUT ON THEIR OWN.

BUT THE REASON THAT I AM THE SOLE PROVIDER FINANCIAL PROVIDER IS THAT MY HUSBAND CAN'T WORK. RIGHT NOW HE IS UNDERGOING AGGRESSIVE CHEMOTHERAPY AND HE JUST STARTED HIS FIRST TREATMENT LAST WEEK AND HE IS TOTALLY OUT OF COMMISSION SO THAT INCOME IS GONE.

SO IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT I AM A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN HERE.

I FOLLOW ALL THE LAWS AND THE RULES ASSOCIATED WITH CONDUCTING MY BUSINESS HERE IN LA VERNE. I DON'T FEEL THAT I SHOULD BE PENALIZED FOR A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THESE SHORT TERM BAD HOSTS. CURRENTLY I CHECKED THIS MORNING AND THERE ARE 31 AIR B&B STAYS HERE IN LA VERNE. 31.

TWO OF THEM ARE A PROBLEM AND I HAVE ALREADY PUT A COMPLAINT INTO ONE OF THEM THAT I KNOW WAS A PROBLEM THAT I COULD SEE AND AIR B&B TOOK THAT OFF.

I DON'T KNOW FOR HOW LONG, BUT THEY TAKE IT SERIOUS.

THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR BUSINESS GOING.

SO ANY COMPLAINT BY ANY NEIGHBOR IS WELCOME AND THEY ARE THERE TO TRY TO RESOLVE IT QUICKLY. WHENEVER I I NEED TO CONTACT THEM, THEY ARE RIGHT THERE.

YOU CALL THEM, THEY'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL.

THERE'S NO 24 HOUR DELAY.

THEY CALL ME BACK WITHIN THE HOUR.

SO THERE IS SUPPORT THERE FROM THE AIR B&B COMMUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND OUR COMMUNITY.

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ALTHOUGH YOU CAN FIND IT ON THE AIRBANDB.COM WEBSITE. OK.

FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY THAT WE'RE ALL HERE, A COMMUNITY WITH UNITED GOAL OF CONTINUING TO MAKE LA VERNE A SAFE, THRIVING COMMUNITY.

IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND TRY TO RESOLVE DISPUTES BEFORE WE ASK OUR GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN AND SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. AND I DO NOT SEE WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AGAINST THIS.

I DON'T SEE THAT THEY'RE REACHING OUT AND TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT.

IT IS HARD SOMETIMES TO TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES, BUT THERE THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY TO TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. OK.

THERE ARE ALREADY LAWS IN PLACE THAT ADDRESS ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES.

AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT PROSTITUTION AND DRUG USE.

IF THERE'S EVER A PROBLEM LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE AND GET THEM INVOLVED. AND IF THIS HAPPENS CONTINUALLY, YOU NOTE IT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GET YOUR PETITIONS GOING. I PERSONALLY DO NOT WANT TO SEE FURTHER RESTRICTIONS ON MY FREEDOM AND RIGHT TO MAKE A LIVING HERE IN MY COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, KIM. SURE.

CHRISTINE RAMIREZ.

I WAS ASKED LAST MINUTE TO COME BY, SO I'M REALLY NOT PREPARED, BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW MY EXPERIENCE AS FROM AIR B&B.

I TOO AM A HOST AND AS WELL HAD A HARDSHIP IN MY FAMILY THAT CAUSED ME TO LOOK FOR THAT AS A MEANS TO SAVE MY PROPERTY.

I'VE ONLY BEEN IN THE CITY OF LA VERNE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS AND I LOVE IT HERE.

I LOVE MY LITTLE PLACE AND MY HUSBAND TOO CONTRACTED 4TH STAGE OF LIVER CANCER AND WASN'T EXPECTED TO LIVE VERY LONG, SO I DIDN'T EXPECT TO BE USING AIR B&B VERY LONG, BUT I STILL HAVE THE NEED TO DO THAT TO TO KEEP MY PLACE AND TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF HIS NEEDS AS WELL. I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD BAD CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THE AIR B&B I WOULD NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT EITHER SO I UNDERSTAND THEIR THEIR COMPLAINTS AGAINST IT, BUT I HAVE TOO HAD VERY GOOD POSITIVE EXPERIENCES, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE VISITED MY PLACE AS WELL. WHO'RE HERE TO VISIT THE UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES AROUND THE AREA.

THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN RESPECTFUL OF MY PROPERTY AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT AS A HOST THAT IF I HAD ANY PROBLEM. I ALSO INFORMED MY NEIGHBORS IF THEY HAD ANY PROBLEM, I GAVE THEM MY NUMBER DIRECTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM WITH USING MY HOME AS AN AIR B&B. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ALONG WITH THESE OTHER PEOPLE, THAT IT IS A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY OF LA VERNE AND THE PEOPLE THAT DO LIVE IN HERE, THAT THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MAKE IT VERY NECESSARY SOMETIMES, OR JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET NICE PEOPLE AND TO HAVE NICE PEOPLE COME INTO YOUR HOME AND TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH THEM.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINE. SO ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? I WILL. [INAUDIBLE].

I HAVE NOT HOSTED WITH AIR B&B, BUT I HAVE HOSTED WITH ENGLISH LANGUAGE CULTURAL PROGRAMS ASSOCIATED WITH UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE.

AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE BLANKET MORATORIUM FOR 45 DAYS BECAUSE AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, IT'S REALLY HARD TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SITUATIONS THAT HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL.

THERE ARE LAWS THAT NEED TO BE ENFORCED ON THOSE.

BUT THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BENEFITED BY HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN A HOST HOME. IN MY CASE, I HAD STUDENTS FROM SPAIN, BRAZIL, SAUDI ARABIA, JAPAN, TAIWAN AND CHINA. THEY WERE EITHER YOUNG ADULTS OR A MIDDLE AGED ADULT OR TEEN STUDENT GROUPS.

AND I EVEN HAD SOME UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS FROM CHINA AND TEACHERS AND GUIDES.

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AND SOME OF THEM WOULD BE A UNIT A MONTH, BUT MOST OF THEM WERE SHORT TERM.

THERE MIGHT BE A GROUP COMING FOR FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS OR STUDENTS COMING TWO TO THREE WEEKS. MAYBE THEY WERE DOING MULTIPLE CITY STOPS SO THEY WOULD BE IN LA VERNE FOR ABOUT FIVE DAYS. THEN THEY'D GO TO NEW YORK OR SAN FRANCISCO AND THEY WOULD DO CLASSES DURING THE DAY AT E.L.S., WHICH IS NEXT TO UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE.

THEY WOULD DO WEEKENDS, EITHER OUTINGS TO LANDMARKS IN CALIFORNIA OR BLENDING WITH THE HOST FAMILY, PRACTICING THEIR ENGLISH LEARNING.

WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT HOW OUR HOMES ARE, HOW OUR FAMILIES ARE EVEN LIKE HOW.

IT WAS ODD FOR THEM TO SEE WOMEN DRIVE, YOU KNOW, JUST INTERESTING THINGS.

AND I ENJOYED THE CULTURAL CONNECTION WITH DIFFERENT FAMILIES.

IT WAS BENEFICIAL FOR ME BECAUSE I HAD BEEN THROUGH A KIND OF A BAD DIVORCE AND I WAS ALONE. MY KIDS HAD GONE TO COLLEGE AND IT HELPED ME KEEP MY HOME.

SO. OH, BY THE WAY, THOSE STUDENTS, THEY LOVED TO SHOP.

THEY COME WITH A PRETTY FAT WALLET AND THEY TAKE HOME A LOT OF THINGS.

SO THAT WAS A GOOD THING.

NO NEIGHBORS WERE DISRUPTED.

I DROVE STUDENTS TO SCHOOL AND I PICKED THEM UP AT THE END OF THE DAY.

OCCASIONALLY THEY WOULD TAKE AN UBER IF THEY WERE OLD ENOUGH AND THEY WOULD GO DOWN TO THE SHOPS OR TO CLAREMONT OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.

NOBODY WAS IN JEOPARDY.

AND MY CONCERN IS THERE'S A LOT OF SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.

I JUST GOT AN EMAIL.

THEY STILL SEND ME EMAILS FROM THE GROUP THAT THEY'VE GOT SOME COMING FROM ECUADOR.

THEY'VE GOT SOME COMING FROM JAPAN.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR HOMES FOR THEM.

AND THOSE WOULD BE STUCK GROUPS COMING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES TO LA VERNE WHO WOULD NOT HAVE HOMES. SO.

I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE MORATORIUM.

I DO THINK YOU NEED TO WORK ON SOMETHING.

I DO THINK YOU NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME GUIDELINES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE NUMBER OF NIGHTS IS THE ISSUE.

I THINK IT'S THE MAYBE THE LACK OF POLICY OR ENFORCEMENT OF CURRENT LAWS.

BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE MORATORIUM.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.

YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS NOAH SNYDER.

I LIVE OVER ON HAYES DRIVE AND I, TOO, AM AN AIR B&B HOST.

I'VE BEEN HOSTING FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AT THIS POINT.

AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, IT TRULY HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC EXPERIENCE.

I DO NOT HOST.

I HOST ONE ROOM WITHIN MY APARTMENT.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, A SMALL 8 BY 10 ROOM.

AND I HAVE HOSTED FOLKS FROM THE STUDENTS AT UNIVERSITY OF LA VERNE.

I'M HOSTING AN ARGENTINIAN STUDENT RIGHT NOW AT PRESENT.

I HAVE HOSTED VISITORS WHO ARE ATTENDING THE POMONA THE POMONA FAIR, THE L.A.

COUNTY FAIR IN POMONA.

AND THESE ARE FOLKS WHO SPENT DO SPEND QUITE A LOT OF MONEY WITHIN CITY LIMITS AND ARE A BOON FOR THE ECONOMY.

AND I JUST THINK A MORATORIUM COULD COULD AFFECT LOCAL BUSINESSES.

BEYOND THAT, I JUST ADDITIONALLY WANT TO STATE THAT MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT I'VE HOSTED ARE BETWEEN A WEEK AND TWO WEEKS.

SUPER SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.

AND 90 PERCENT OF THE TIME IT'S EITHER STUDENTS OR FOLKS WHO PREVIOUSLY LIVED IN LA VERNE OR LIVED LOCALLY AND ARE VISITING THEIR KIDS OR A NUMBER OF OTHER FOLKS.

AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS MORATORIUM.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE STUDIED OUT FURTHER.

AND I THINK THE ESPECIALLY THE IMPACTS AND EFFECTS ON THE LOCAL ECONOMY NEED TO BE STUDIED. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

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MY NAME IS MARK RAMOS. 2247 SECOND STREET.

I AM NOT AN AIR B&B HOST, BUT I CAME TONIGHT TO SUPPORT MY GOOD FRIEND, MY DEAR FRIEND, KIM HOLDER HERRERA.

AND I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY NOT FIND A BETTER AMBASSADOR FOR OUR WONDERFUL CITY THAN KIM. I CAN GUARANTEE THOSE GUEST THAT ARE STAYING WITH HER WHEN THEY SAY AFTER A LONG DAY AT CONVENTION OR THE FAIR OR GOING TO VISIT TO VISIT LOCAL UNIVERSITIES, IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR DINNER, YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT KIM IS TELLING THEM TO WALK DOWNTOWN.

IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THIS MAY BE AN OVERREACTION TO A PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE AND MAYBE THAT I WOULD ASSUME THE NORTH PART OF TOWN.

IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A VENUE WHERE SOMEONE IS HOSTING WEDDINGS AT THEIR RESIDENCE, THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AND NOT NECESSARILY WITH SOMEBODY'S RENTALS.

IT APPEARS THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE.

SO MAYBE THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH MAYBE NOT RENTING THAT VENUE TILL MIDNIGHT.

MAYBE YOU STOP IT AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE ONCE HAD A PARTY IN OUR BACKYARD AND MY SON'S BAND PLAYED AND THREE SONGS IN, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SHOWED UP TO SHUT THEM DOWN.

SO I KNOW WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE AND RESPONSIVE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE IN LA VERNE, BUT I WOULD SAY THERE IS PROBABLY, IN MY OPINION, NOT A NEED FOR MORATORIUM.

I THINK WE HAVE VERY CAPABLE AND ABLE STAFF HERE IN A CITY THAT IS ABLE TO WORK ON A POLICY OR AN ORDINANCE.

WHILE THIS CONTINUES AND IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WEDDING SITE VENUE, THEN MAYBE WE WE MAKE SURE WE CONTACT THE CITY, CONTACTS THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY TO KIND OF PUT SOME STRUCTURE IN PLACE ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE.

AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU NECESSARILY NEED AN ORDINANCE OR A MORATORIUM TO DO THAT, THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY MOVE TOWARDS, IF THERE ARE ISSUES WITH FIGHTS AND EVERYTHING GOING IN THE FRONT YARD THAT YOU CAN MOVE TOWARDS A PUBLIC NUISANCE ISSUE ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE AND MAYBE NOT HARM THE GOOD FOLKS OF THIS CITY THAT ARE ACTUALLY USING THEIR RESIDENTS TO FOR EXTRA INCOME.

AND AS MY DEAR FRIEND KIM SAID, WITH HER HUSBAND BATTLING CANCER, THIS IS A MAKE OR BREAK SITUATION FOR THAT FAMILY.

AND THE WOMAN WHO CAME AND SPOKE ABOUT HER AND HER FAMILY VOLUNTEERING.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE NINETY FIVE.

WE MET DAN AND KIM SOON AFTER THAT.

WE MOVED HERE. OUR KIDS ARE THE SAME AGE.

KIM AND HER FAMILY ARE SUPER VOLUNTEERS.

A LOT OF THE WORK THAT HAPPENED AT WITH KAREN HIGGINS AND A GARDEN.

KIM WAS RIGHT THERE BESIDE HER WITH A LOT OF THAT KIND OF WORK.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR THE MORATORIUM AT THIS TIME.

I THINK, AGAIN, I WILL I WILL REITERATE, I BELIEVE YOU ARE VERY CAPABLE AND PREPARED STAFF THAT DOES NOT NEED A MORATORIUM TO MOVE TOWARDS DEVELOPING SOME KIND OF STRUCTURE OR AN ORDINANCE HERE IN THE CITY.

SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE MORATORIUM, BUT MAYBE GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON WHAT TO DO IN DEVELOPING SOMETHING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARK.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RYAN RACINE AND I LIVE AT 5075 OLD RANCH ROAD.

AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I'VE LISTENED TO PEOPLE SPEAK TONIGHT, I FEEL LIKE THIS FALLS INTO TWO BUCKETS RIGHT THERE IS THE PEOPLE THERE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY, HAVING MAYBE ONE OR TWO RENTALS AT A TIME AND REALLY HAVING A GOOD VETTING PROCESS.

AND THEN THERE'S THE SECOND BUCKET WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REALLY TAKEN IT TO THE NTH DEGREE. AND IN MY OPINION, VIOLATED THE SPIRIT OF THE POLICY AND HAVE MADE THIS A VOLUME BASED PROBLEM.

DISTURBING THE PEACE OF SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I THINK IF YOU CONSIDER THE CITY OF LA VERNE AND THE BANDWIDTH THAT WE HAVE TO MONITOR THIS, WE DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO MONITOR THIS.

THIS HAS TO BE AN ALL OR NOTHING APPROACH.

AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE MADE SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS TONIGHT ABOUT HOW THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO MONETIZE AND IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR THEIR LIFE.

BUT I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COLLEGE STUDENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO FOR OVER 30 DAYS A SEMESTER FOR A COLLEGE STUDENT IS GOING TO BE SIX MONTHS.

YOU CAN STILL MONETIZE THIS.

AND WE WON'T HAVE THE TRANSITORY NATURE OF NIGHT BY NIGHT NEW PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.

SECONDLY, I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT TO WHERE WE ARE, HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT. SO FOR TWO MONTHS, MY WIFE AND I SPOKE TO TIM HEPBURN ABOUT THE PROBLEM AND IT NEVER MADE IT ONTO THE CITY AGENDA.

I CANNOT SPEAK TO A MAN'S CHARACTER WHEN I DO NOT KNOW HIS CHARACTER.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS. THIS WAS A LARGE ENOUGH ISSUE BETWEEN TWO HOMEOWNERS THAT IT COULD HAVE GONE ON THE CITY AGENDA AND IT SHOULD HAVE LONG BEFORE WHAT WE DID IN DECEMBER.

THE LETTERS THAT WERE SENT INTO CITY HALL, THE CITY MANAGER TO TIM HEPBURN.

WE HAVE COPIES FROM MULTIPLE NEIGHBORS ON OLD RANCH AND ESPERANZA.

OUT OF ALL THE HOUSES WE WENT TO THREE PEOPLE, THREE PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO SIGN A

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THE OLD RANCH PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO THINK AT THIS POINT.

IT'S NOT UP FOR OUR FAMILY TO JUDGE OR SAY WHEN WE TRULY DON'T KNOW.

WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT THREE DAYS AFTER THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ON THURSDAY NIGHT, WE HAD A MONDAY NIGHT MEETING.

COUNCILMEMBER HEPBURN WAS AT THE PROPERTY OWNERS HOUSE FOR A HOLIDAY EVENT AS THE GUEST'S HONOREE. I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING EITHER WAY ABOUT IT TO ME.

YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

I THINK THAT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

SO, GUYS, I MEAN, BOTTOM LINE, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST ONE OTHER THING TO ONE OF THE AIR B&B GUYS SAID ABOUT COMMUNICATION WITH WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.

WE'VE TRIED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE HOMEOWNER AT OLD RANCH ROAD WHEN A SEPARATE INCIDENT HAPPENED IN A 50 FOOT PINE TREE TOOK OUT HALF OF OUR BACKYARD.

I TRIED CIVILLY TO TALK TO HER OVER THE WALL ABOUT CAN WE ADDRESS THE SHARED WALL THAT HAS BEEN DESTROYED BECAUSE OF HER TREE AND HER RESPONS IS WHAT IS THERE TO TALK ABOUT? I WANT EVERYTHING IN WRITING FROM YOU.

THEN I SAID, OK, I'LL SEND IN A WRITING.

I FOLLOWED UP WITH HER OVER THE FENCE.

DID YOU GET THE LETTER? HER RESPONSE WAS, I DON'T READ ANYTHING THAT YOU SEND ME.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF CHARACTER THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

AND IT HAS TO STOP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, RYAN.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS? YOU'RE NOT RAISING YOUR HAND TO SPEAK.

DIRECTLY ON THE ISSUE, I HAVE TO SAY.

NAME FIRST. JEFF BASLER, [INAUDIBLE].

DIRECTLY ON POINT I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE MORATORIUM.

BUT I ALSO AM IN SUPPORT OF GIVING THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE RELYING ON THIS AND HAVE CONTRACTS AND OPPORTUNITY IF THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY TO APPLY FOR AN EXEMPTION TO IT AS LONG AS THEY STAY IN THAT STATUS OF NO COMPLAINTS.

AND THAT IS KIND OF A HAPPY MEDIUM, I THINK, IN TERMS OF HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS.

BUT IT'S VERY COMPLAINT BASED ON THAT AN ALL OR NOTHING ON THAT.

AND THEN I WANT TO ADDRESS ONE MORE THING RELATING TO THIS.

AT THE LAST, AFTER THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I MET THIS COUPLE OVER HERE.

THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN NORTH LA VERNE.

IT WAS UNDER THEIR MEANS, BUT IT WAS THEY WANTED IT A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD TO LIVE IN.

THE WIFE WAS ABLE TO LEAVE HER CORPORATE JOB BECAUSE THEY WERE GETTING SOMEPLACE UNDER THEIR MEANS. SHE COULD STAY HOME WITH THEIR FAMILY, WITH THEIR CHILDREN.

AND IT WAS A NICE, PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE PROMOTE AS A CITY OF LA VERNE.

THAT IS WHAT WE'RE OFFERING UP.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT THEY GOT.

THERE ARE THE PROBLEM NEIGHBOR WITH THE B&B NEXT DOOR SELLING ROOMS BY THE NIGHT.

AND IT'S BROUGHT A BAD ELEMENT TO THEIR THEIR HOUSEHOLD.

THEY'VE GOT PEOPLE YELLING AT THEM OVER THE FENCE, LOOKING THROUGH THEIR BACK WINDOWS.

YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE TIME THE HUSBAND'S AWAY ON TRAVEL FOR WORK, WHICH MEANS SHE'S HOME WITH THE KIDS ALONE IN THIS SITUATION.

IT'S NOT NOT A GOOD WAY TO HAVE A PEACEFUL HOME.

TIM, YOU STAKE YOUR REPUTATION IN BEING THERE TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY WHEN THEY HAVE A PROBLEM. AND YOUR BIGGEST SUPPORTERS, THEY TOUT YOUR OPENNESS ON EVERYTHING.

AND I WAS HORRIFIED TO LEARN THAT THEY HAD TOLD YOU ABOUT THIS FOR MONTHS WITH NO ACTION.

AND WHAT THEY GOT WAS THEIR NEIGHBOR SAYING THAT THEY HAD MORE PULL WITH THE CITY THAN THEY HAVE. AND I LEARNED THAT YOU'RE THE PULL.

WITH THAT'S COUNTER TO EVERYTHING I'VE EVER HEARD OF YOUR REPUTATION.

AND I THINK YOU OWE THIS FAMILY A HUGE APOLOGY.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

OK. I AM NOT PREPARED AT ALL, BUT.

WHAT IS YOUR NAME? JACQUELINE THORNTON.

I LIVE ON THIRD STREET.

I'M AN AIR B&B HOST.

PRIOR TO THAT, I HAD STUDENTS FROM THE UNIVERSITY FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.

I'M A FORMER FLIGHT ATTENDANT AN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT ATTENDANT.

MY GUESTS ARE RESPECTFUL, AMAZING.

I'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS. AND I DON'T LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT I'M NOT REALLY PREPARED TO TALK RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T FEEL VERY GOOD. BUT THE DINOSAUR IN THE ROOM OR WHATEVER THAT.

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SAME SIZE. [LAUGHTER]. WE KNOW WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

AND I YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYTHING RUNS.

I'M JUST A LITTLE PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS PERSON HAS NOT BEEN FINED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND STOPPED FROM CAUSING HAVOC AND CHAOS NONSTOP.

SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE, I'VE BEEN HERE TWENTY NINE YEARS AND IT'S JUST HARD TO SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO THIS.

I'M A SINGLE PERSON LIVING IN MY HOME AS WELL.

I NEED MY INCOME.

I ENJOY IT. AND IT'S PART OF THE REASON I'VE STAYED IN LA VERNE, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I WAS CONSIDERING MOVING THE LAST FOUR YEARS I'VE BEEN LOOKING AROUND, BUT I DECIDED TO STAY AND I STARTED DOING THE AIR B&B IN MAY.

I DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT COME FOR ONE NIGHT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE THAT ARE REQUESTING ROOMS, YOU CAN KIND OF TELL IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO USE YOUR HOUSE FOR A HOOKUP.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN.

YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT.

I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT IN THE BEGINNING.

I DIDN'T I DIDN'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLE COME.

BUT YOU CAN KIND OF FIGURE IT OUT IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT COME FOR ONE NIGHT.

THEY'RE THERE.

THEY'VE BEEN TRAVELLING AROUND.

THEY'RE FLYING OUT OF ONTARIO.

IT'S CONVENIENT.

MAYBE THEY WANT TO GO TO THE LAKE.

MAYBE THEY CAME FOR THE RACES ONE DAY.

THERE'S JUST ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT REASONS WHY PEOPLE MIGHT COME FOR ONE DAY.

I HAVE A LOT OF PARENTS THAT COME TO VISIT THEIR STUDENTS AT THE CLAREMONT COLLEGES OR LA VERNE. I HAVE A GENTLEMAN THAT IS A REPEAT GUEST OF MINE THAT COMES TO SEE HIS FATHER, WHO HAS ALZHEIMERS AND LIVES IN A HOME IN CLAREMONT.

ON HIS DAYS OFF, HE'S A PROFESSOR IN EUGENE, OREGON.

I COULD GO ON AND ON.

THERE'S I'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS. AND BECAUSE ONE PERSON IS DISRESPECTFUL ON EVERY LEVEL.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T.

THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY, I THINK I WASN'T PREPARED.

SORRY. THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? OK, WE'LL BRING IT BACK UP HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

CHARLIE. YEAH, I JUST AS A MATTER FOR THE RECORD, I'VE BEEN THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE MORATORIUM AND WANTED TO GIVE OUR STAFF TIME TO FASHION A ORDINANCE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AND SEE HOW FAIR WE WOULD WE COULD MAKE IT.

UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE GENTLEMAN CAME UP AND SPOKE.

THE MAJORITY OF THE AIR B&B HOSTS SEEM TO BE VERY ORGANIZED, VERY MATURE PEOPLE THAT OFFER A PLACE TO STAY AT LA VERNE.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS GROUP IN ITS 32 AIR B&BS, WHY DON'T YOU FORM AN ASSOCIATION? SO YOU CAN MONITOR YOURSELVES.

BE ABLE TO COME TO THE CITY AS A AS A GROUP, HAVE A SPOKESPERSON IN CASE THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT YOU WANT TO BRING BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

I THINK, AGAIN, AS AS A MORATORIUM, I WAS LOOKING TO GIVE THE CITY THAT OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY THIS ISSUE AT LENGTH SO WE DIDN'T PROVIDE AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS RESTRICTIVE OR THAT WAS ARBITRARY.

SO I HOPE PEOPLE IN THAT VEIN UNDERSTAND THIS.

I DIDN'T I DIDN'T BRING THIS ABOUT TO MAKE AN INDIVIDUAL TAKE THEIR INCOME AWAY FROM THEM. ANYBODY ELSE.

SURE. I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE A COMMUNITY, A COUNTRY WHERE COMPANIES START UP BUSINESS IDEAS AND DON'T TAKE THE FULL WEIGHT AND MEASURE OF WHAT IT IS THEY'RE DOING.

I THINK THIS REALLY LIES ON AIR B&B FOR NOT POLICING THEIR OWN PRODUCT, FOR NOT TAKING

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SO THAT LEAVES IT TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO DO THEIR WORK. WELL, THE WAY THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF CALIFORNIA ARE WRITTEN, GOVERNMENTS ARE LESS ABLE TO DO THINGS.

PRESCRIPTIVELY. SPECIFICALLY.

THEN PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

GOVERNMENTS HAVE TO USE BROAD BRUSHES.

GOVERNMENTS DON'T REALLY PAINT BETWEEN LINES, WE JUST PAINT BIG SWATHS OF SURFACE AND THEN THINGS HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.

WHICH MAKES SOMETHING LIKE THIS CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE'VE HAVE WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE SOME CAN SAY IT'S SIMPLY THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOME NEIGHBORS THAT DON'T WANT TO COOPERATE AND PLAY NICELY.

SOME WILL SAY THAT IT'S A IT'S IT'S GOVERNMENTS RUN AMOK TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS AND THEIR CIVIL LIBERTIES.

IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE.

DO WE ALLOW FEW PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO SUFFER SO THAT THE OTHER AIR B&B HOSTS WHO ALL TALK ABOUT WHAT FINE RENTERS OR TENANTS THEY HAVE FOR A SHORT TERM BASIS.

A FEW HAVE TALKED ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS BEING WILLING AND COOPERATIVE AND BEING FRIENDLY TO IT. THE ONLY NEIGHBORS THAT WE'VE HEARD SPEAK HAVE BEEN NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BEEN UPSET, AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL, BUT IT'S A CHALLENGE.

IT REALLY IS A BIG CHALLENGE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE.

NOT INTERESTED IN TAKING LIVELIHOODS AWAY FROM PEOPLE.

I KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. THAT'S NOT VERY GOOD, BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING GOING FORWARD TO HELP, I THINK. IN THIS CURRENT ORDINANCE.

THIS THIS MORATORIUM, THERE IS A PROVISION PROVISIONS, SECTION C OF THAT THE COUNCIL BEING ABLE TO GRANT RELIEF.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON BECAUSE I'M INTERESTED IN THIS ORDINANCE STOPPING WHAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON.

HOWEVER, I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE RELIEF AND HAVE FAIRLY IMMEDIATE RELIEF TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD UNTIL WE GET THE PERMANENT ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND CONSIDER THOSE RAMIFICATIONS.

AND THOSE RAMIFICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE TRY TO BE SPECIFIC.

SO ONE COMMON THREAD I HEARD WAS THAT IF IT'S A HOSTED AIR B&B.

IN APPEARS TO ME TO BE LESS PROBLEMATIC THAN AN UNHOSTED AIR B&B, IN OTHER WORDS, JUST TO READ JUST A DOMICILE OR JUST A HOUSE.

IF IT'S IF THE AIR B&B OR THE RENTING IS TAKING PLACE SHORT TERM OR OTHERWISE AT SOMEBODY'S HOME AND THEY ARE GUESTS AT THEIR HOUSE.

PAID GUEST ALBEIT.

BUT A GUEST. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S LESS TROUBLE.

THE OTHER THING I'M ASSUMING SO, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE RELIEF PROVISIONS I'M PUTTING IN IS THAT THE THAT THIS STAYS MUST BE HOSTING REGARDLESS OF.

I MEAN, DURING THIS MORATORIUM, ALL STAYS MUST BE HOSTED.

THE OTHER THING THAT I HEARD OR THAT I'M ASSUMING SO I'M CONJECTURING IS THAT THOSE THAT ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN AIR B&B EXPERIENCES THAT ARE POSITIVE ARE NOT WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE THAT THEIR NEIGHBORS KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE OKAY WITH THEIR ACTIVITIES. SO I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THIS ADDITIONAL PROVISION FOR SECTION 3, BECAUSE I'M IN SUPPORT OF OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN BURDENED BY THIS AIR B&B, BECAUSE AIR B&B DIDN'T DO THEIR JOB.

SO WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR THEM.

AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE WHEN WE HAVE TO DO THEIR JOB, BECAUSE, AS I SAID, WE CAN'T BE AS PRESCRIPTIVE AND PRECISE WE GET WE'RE A LITTLE MORE BLUNT WITH OUR TOOLS.

SO I'M INTERESTED IN MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO THIS MORATORIUM ORDINANCE, WHICH WOULD ESSENTIALLY INSERT IN SECTION 3 WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL MAY GRANT RELIEF FROM THESE PROVISIONS BY THESE ADDITIONAL PIECES.

SO THIS WOULD BE A SECTION 4 IN THERE AND SECTION 4 STATES THAT WOULD ALLOW A SIGNED PETITION BY SIX CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORS.

AND I'LL GET INTO THE DEFINITION OF WHAT CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBOR MEANS IN JUST A MINUTE REQUESTING RELIEF FROM THE ORDINANCE ALLOWING ONLY HOSTED STAYS.

BUT IF YOU'RE AN ABSENTEE AIR B&B HOST, THIS ISN'T GOING TO APPLY TO YOU.

BUT IF YOU LIVE THERE AND YOU'RE THERE WHILE THE PEOPLE ARE RENTING FROM YOU, THAT THIS PROVISION WOULD ALLOW THAT.

SECOND PART OF THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBOR, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT AN AIR B&B HOST TO BE ABLE GO FIND SIX PEOPLE IN LA VERNE AND JUST HAVE THEM SIGN.

CONTIGUOUS AND IS DEFINED AS PROPERTIES ADJOINING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, OR ACROSS THE PUBLIC ROADWAY OR ADJOINING PROPERTIES OF SIGNED CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORS.

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YOU CAN GET ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE TO SIGN OR THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET OR ALL THREE OF THEM HOPEFULLY.

AND THEN YOU CAN GET THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THEM TO SIGN.

BUT IF THE NEIGHBOR NEXT TO YOU DOESN'T SIGN EVERYBODY ELSE DOWN THAT SIDE IS BLOCKED.

THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU CAN SIGN AND THEN YOU CAN GO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER AND MOVE TO WHERE YOU GET SIX NEIGHBORS THAT CAN SIGN.

I THINK THAT CAN BE DONE IN A WEEKEND WHICH SHOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH ANYBODY'S NEED TO HAVE ONGOING BUSINESS.

IF THEY'RE HOSTING THEM.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY APPROACH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THIS MORATORIUM ORDINANCE.

AND I CAN REPEAT THAT. BUT.

WELL, SO THAT'S MY IDEA.

WELL, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

LET BOB THINK. YEAH.

THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A MAJOR QUESTION THAT I HEARD HERE TONIGHT IS KIM HAS A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT OF INCOME COMMITTED FROM PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RENT HER PROPERTY.

IF WE DID A MORATORIUM LEGALLY, WHERE IT IS, WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THAT? THAT'S MY CONCERN THERE, BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING INCOME AWAY FROM SOMEONE THAT HAS COMMITMENTS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

OR LONG TERM, YOU EVEN USE LONG TERM FOR ANYONE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEYOND THIS 30 DAY PERIOD THAT WE'RE 45 DAY PERIOD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'M NOT SURE OF HOW THOSE USER RENTER RENTALS ARE DONE THROUGH AIR B&B BUT WE DID GET A LETTER AND YOU HAVE THAT FROM AIR B&B, THEY DID NOT POINT TO ANY LEGAL CONCERNS RELATED TO THE MORATORIUM. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY HAVE A PROVISION WHERE IT'S NOT PAID UNTIL STAY. SO THAT ABILITY EXISTS.

THERE'S NO CONCERN OF LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS.

BACK TO THE HOST AIR B&B LISTED IN WHAT THEY EXPRESSED AS CONCERNS.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I COULD POINT OUT. TECHNICALLY FOR ANY HOTEL STATE YOU GO TO.

YOU CAN CANCEL WITHIN 24 HOURS PRIOR.

SO THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS.

HOW WILL WE ENFORCE THIS MORATORIUM? AS WE DO ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES, IT WOULD BE THROUGH COMPLAINT.

YES. SO IF WE GET NOTICE OF AN ADVERTISING OF A LISTING FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD NOTIFY AIR B&B, VRBO AND ANY OF THE OTHER SITES THAT THIS WAS A PROHIBITION AND WE WOULD ASK THEM TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ON THEIR SITE.

BUT BEYOND THAT, WE WOULD TAKE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE TO COME IN AND WE WOULD NOTIFY THE HOST IF THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE AND ASK THEM TO REMOVE THAT AND THEN PROCEED WITH AN ADMIN SIDE PROCESS IF WE DON'T GET COMPLIANCE.

OK. BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT TALKING IN FAVOR OF B&B AND HOST FAMILIES.

LAST MONTH, WE OUR LAST MEETING, WE HAD MORE PEOPLE HERE SPEAKING OF PROBLEMS WITH THE RENTALS AND SO BEYOND THAT, WE ALSO WITH THE RACINE FAMILY, WE WERE GIVEN A THICK PACKET WITH PAGES AND PAGES OF NEIGHBORS THAT DID SIGN A PETITION.

SO WE ALSO HAD THAT.

DO YOU REALIZE WHEN YOU HAVE A MEETING, THOSE THAT COME OUT IS NOT SPEAKING FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER ALL THAT WHEN WE'RE TAKING THE STAND.

I DO LIKE YOUR IDEA MAYOR LISTENING TO WHAT YOU'RE OFFERING.

IT'S SAD THAT WE HAVE TO PENALIZE THE ONES THAT ARE THE HOST INSIDE THE HOMES.

I LIKE THAT IDEA THAT IF THEY LIVE THERE, IF THERE'S AN EXEMPTION WE COULD DO FOR THE HOST THAT LIVE IN THE HOMES, THAT COULD BE AN EXEMPTION FOR THEM.

BUT THE ONES THAT DON'T LIVE THERE.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD GO FOR THE MORATORIUM IF WE CAN PULL THAT OUT FROM THERE OR, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH SOME AMENDMENT TO THE MORATORIUM THAT WE HAVE WRITTEN HERE.

THAT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE REGULATING THE LAND USE AND NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT BEING A SHORT TERM RENTAL VERSUS A LONGER TERM RENT.

AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S HOSTED.

I MEAN, I'M GOING TO GET TO MAYOR'S IDEA.

BUT. JUST MAKING THE MORATORIUM APPLY TO NON HOSTED PROPERTIES.

I THINK WOULD BE DIFFICULT. THERE ARE SOME PRACTICAL DIFFICULTIES. IF YOU IF YOU READ UP THE.

IN A 45 DAY MORATORIUM, IT SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL CAN GRANT RELIEF FROM THE MORATORIUM ON

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WELL, REALISTICALLY.

GET ON A PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA AND THEN COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU PROBABLY DON'T REACH THAT.

IT'S A LEGAL IT'S A LEGAL PROTECTION RATHER THAN AN IMMEDIATE GRANT OF RELIEF.

COULD WE INSERT AN IMMEDIATE GRANT OF RELIEF THEN IN THERE BASED ON A PETITION, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S HOSTED OR NOT? IF YOU CAN GET YOUR SIX CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORS TO SIGN A PETITION TO ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE.

COULD WE GRANT IMMEDIATE RELIEF FOR THAT? OR IS THAT JUST TOO FAR LEGAL AFIELD.

YOU KNOW, I SUPPOSE IT COULD BE DONE THAT WAY.

SO WOULD BE ITS OWN SECTION THEN, RATHER THAN TRYING TO SHOEHORN IT IN TO SECTION 3.

RIGHT. ONE THING.

THE LAST TWO MEETINGS I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD ANYONE TRYING TO DEAL WITH AIR B&B.

WE RECEIVED A LETTER TODAY THAT HAS AN E-MAIL ADDRESS THAT IS DEVOTED TO PROBLEM SOLVING.

AND I JUST WONDER WHETHER THAT'S WORTH A TRY ON A SHORT TERM BASIS.

WHILE WE CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT AN ORDINANCE MIGHT LOOK AT, MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

MAYBE. I MEAN, THE RESIDENTS ON TO THIS.

AND IF THERE ARE CONTINUING PROBLEMS ON ESPERANZA AND OLD RANCH ROAD AND PERHAPS OTHERS.

TRYING TO GET AIR B&B TO POLICE THEIR OWN BUSINESS.

I JUST OFFER THAT BECAUSE.

I'M GOING TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE ON THAT POINT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY.

I THINK WE NEED NEED A MORATORIUM IN PLACE.

I THINK IF WE WERE TO COME UP WITH SOME EXCEPTION, THAT WE CAN FIT IN, BUT WE NEED SOME TYPE OF TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO REGULATE AND WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THEM EVEN IN THE TEMPORARY GOING TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE HOPING AIR B&B IS GOING TO RESPOND.

BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT IF THEY DON'T.

SO IT'S A GOOD STEP FOR AIR B&B TO TRY AND REGULATE THEIR OWN PRACTICE.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE DO NEED SOME STAFF TOOLS IN PLACE.

COUPLE OF COMMENTS. THE RACINES.

YES, I DID TAKE YOUR YOUR ALL YOUR SIGNATURES, WHICH WAS VERY SERIOUS, AND I DID SUBMIT TO THE CITY, AS MR. ROSALES SAID. AND ALSO, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER .

AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE DECISION.

THIS AFFECTS OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT ARE EXPECTING INCOME FOR THEIR HOMES.

WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE IN IT OR NOT.

I DO LIKE COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS'S SUGGESTION, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT AS OUR CITY MANAGER SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAVE A MORATORIUM ON IT, BUT WE NEED IT.

WE NEED SOMETHING TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE RUNNING A GOOD BUSINESS AND AND AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE ALL GOOD WITH IT.

SECOND, LINDA WILKINSON'S HOUSE.

THERE'S NOT MANY PEOPLE IN LA VERNE THAT I DON'T KNOW.

AND LINDA WILKINSON'S BOYS PLAYED BASEBALL AND SOCCER WITH MINE, SO.

AND I WAS INVITED, THE LBC3 .

YES I WAS, ALONG WITH WALLY EMORY, ALONG WITH KENNY CHANG, ALONG WITH CASH THAT'S RUNNING FOR CONGRESS. THERE WAS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THERE.

AND ALSO GILL WAS THERE.

SO IT WASN'T IT WAS A CHRISTMAS PARTY.

AND IT WAS VERY QUIET AND WAS A GREAT, GREAT TIME.

WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TIME. SORRY IF YOU TOOK IT THE WRONG WAY, BUT I DID SUBMIT THOSE SIGNATURES I DID SUBMITTED TO THE CITY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION.

IT AFFECTS PEOPLE'S LIVES.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, THOUGH, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HAVING THESE ISSUES, IT GETS ADDRESSED RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ISSUE.

WHETHER IT BE ESPERANZA OR OLD RANCH ROAD.

YOU GUYS HAVE AN ISSUE. AND I I REALLY APPRECIATE E-MAILS FROM ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SENT THE E-MAILS IN. THESE ARE GREAT SUGGESTIONS FOR THE CITY, GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICIES, YOU KNOW, ORDINANCES IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE.

BUT I DO SUPPORT COUNCILMEMBER DAVIS'S.

THE FACT THAT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DOING IT RIGHT. AND THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT SHOULD BE PUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THOSE PEOPLE GET TAKEN CARE OF AND THEY GET REMOVED AND THAT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT WE CAN POLICE THESE SITUATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T HAVING

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THEY HAVE A GREAT PLACE TO PLAY, AS MY CHILDREN DID.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SAME THING HAPPENS TO ALL OF YOU.

SO IF WE CAN DO THAT, I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT.

MR. DAVIS, THANK YOU.

THINK LA VERNE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PLACE.

THAT TAKES CARE OF ITS OWN.

CHRISTINE AND KIM, WITH YOUR HUSBAND'S WITH CANCER.

EVERY ONE OF US IN THIS ROOM HAS BEEN AFFECTED BY THAT C WORD WITH SOMEBODY IN OUR IMMEDIATE FAMILY OR SOMEBODY WE KNOW THAT'S CLOSE TO US AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE SOMEHOW ARE HELPED OUT.

SO THE IDEA THAT WE ARE TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS MAKING AN EXCEPTION I THINK IS APPROPRIATE. AND I THINK FOR THE ONES THAT ARE NOT ABIDING BY GOOD CITIZENSHIP TO THEIR COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO HAVE THE MORATORIUM.

SO I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THE MORATORIUM, BUT DEFINITELY WITH THE EXCEPTION SO THAT WE CAN REALLY LOOK OUT FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT NEED OUR HELP.

AND THAT WOULD BE MERE SUGGESTION.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, A WAY THAT'S KIND OF TALK THIS THROUGH.

HOW PRACTICALLY THAT'S GONNA WORK.

I MEAN, CAUSE I LIKE TO NOT.

I'D LIKE TO GET AN APPROVAL TONIGHT.

SO WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE AND I THINK STILL WORKING OFF OF SECTION THREE.

AND I'M GONNA, YOU KNOW, DEFER TO BOB A LITTLE BIT HERE ON THE PRACTICALITY OF THAT AND STILL REQUIRE TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY EXCEPTION, THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON GETTING THOSE PARTICULARS. AND I WOULD SAY IT MUST BE ANY CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORS PLUS ADDITIONAL.

SO. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT BE DISJOINTED.

IF I'M HEARING YOUR DEFINITION OF CONTIGUOUS.

YOU CAN GET AWAY FROM HAVING ANYBODY THAT NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE TO TOUCH YOUR PROPERTY.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE TRUE.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET ALL THREE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTIES TO YOUR PROPERTY.

AND YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY HAVE MORE DEPENDING ON THE CONFIGURATION OF YOUR PROPERTY.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP IT AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET SIX, BUT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S TOUCHING THAT SAYS NO.

NOW YOU'RE GOING TO I THINK PRACTICALLY THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE DIFFICULT.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE. WE NEED TO MAKE IT PUT THE ONUS ON THE HOST TO GET THOSE CONTIGUOUS ONES IF WE'RE GONNA GRANT THIS EXCEPTION.

I THINK EVERYBODY NOW UNDERSTANDS THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS ISSUE OF WHY A MORATORIUM HAD TO BE PUT IN PLACE.

MEMBER DAVIS HAS COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, I THINK, TO PART OF THAT.

BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THIS SO THAT THE ISSUE ITSELF IS CONSTITUTIONAL.

IT'S LEGAL. IT WILL HOLD UP.

WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO BE FIGHTING IN COURT WITH SOMEBODY WHO FEELS THAT THEY'VE BEEN WRONGED AND HANGS HER HAT ON A TECHNICALITY THAT WE DIDN'T TOUCH.

SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, THAT ARE THE GOOD HOSTS, IT'S UNFORTUNATE. THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE MAKING US GO THROUGH THESE HOOPS AND DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO BE CORRECT.

WELL, I'LL DEFER THEN WHERE THAT WOULD SIT TO BOB.

WELL. I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND HAVE IT GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. RIGHT. I WOULD NEED TO BE FOR IMMEDIATE RELIEF.

SO IT WOULDN'T GO IT JUST GO TO THE PLANNING DESK AND AND ESSENTIALLY SO A NEW SECTION 3.

SO EVERY SECTION FROM 3 DOWN.

A TOTALLY NEW SECTION THAT PROVIDED, HOWEVER ANY PROPERTY OWNER WHO SATISFIES THE EXEMPTION SHALL BE EXEMPT FROM THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE.

RIGHT. THAT THAT ONE.

[LAUGHTER]. YEAH. TEAMWORK.

YES. AND AND IT'S IMMEDIATE.

RIGHT. I MEAN, IF IF IF YOU FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY WHERE YOU'RE DOING GOOD WORK AND YOU CAN GO OUT AND GET THAT KIND OF A SUPPORTIVE DOCUMENT AND BRING IT IN, THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT CANCELING.

RIGHT.

AND WELL, I THINK I THINK, YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A TRICKY ONE.

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ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT REVISION? WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT I WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUT IN PLACE IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. SAY THIS AGAIN.

SAY IT AGAIN. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK A MEDIATOR. JASON IS FINE.

ALL IMMEDIATE ADJACENT, INCLUDING ACROSS A PUBLIC ROADWAY.

SIX. INCLUDING ALL IMMEDIATELY.

A TOTAL OF SIX.

BUT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT MUST BE INCLUDED.

RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THE OTHER THREE HAVE TO BE CONTIGUOUS TO THOSE PROPERTIES.

YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T HOPSCOTCH.

AND THEN WE WILL PROCESS THOSE THROUGH PLANNING VS.

RIGHT PLANNING COMMISSION.

JUST THOSE. ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE LETTER THAT THE CITY RECEIVED FROM AIR B&B AND THE TALKS ABOUT THEIR COMPLAINT PROCESS WILL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE.

I MOVE THAT WE DO THAT THE MORATORIUM ORDINANCE WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] EXCEPTION.

WE HAVE A VOTE, PLEASE. COOL.

AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE WONDERING, HOW DO I GET A LIST OF THESE EXACT EXEMPTIONS.

GIVE US A COUPLE DAYS TO PUT IT IN, PUT A DOCUMENT TOGETHER AND THEN WE WILL HAVE WRITTEN COPY AVAILABLE. SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND EXACTLY PUT TOGETHER. BUT ANYBODY WHO IS A HOST, JUST GO AHEAD AND START GETTING YOUR NEIGHBORS SIGNATURES. NOT TONIGHT.

NOT TONIGHT. NOT TONIGHT. WAIT TILL TOMORROW.

DAYLIGHT. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE PREAMBLE TO THIS? I SO AND SO HEREBY AGREE THAT MY NEIGHBOR.

I HEREBY SO AND SO AGREE TO HOST AGREED TO BE TO ALLOWED TO HAVE HOSTED STAYS AT MY RESIDENCE. I WOULDN'T USE THAT.

IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL.

WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO PISS OFF VRBA OR ANYBODY ELSE OR IT OR ENGLISH, WHATEVER.

RIGHT. ENGLISH LANGUAGE STUFF.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO BE SEE ONCE AGAIN, WE CAN'T BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE.

WE HAVE TO USE BROADBRUSH.

DESCRIPTIVE, DESCRIPTIVE, NOT PRESCRIPTIVE.

OK. I THINK BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE HOSTS.

THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. YEAH.

THANK YOU. BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU. THOSE OF YOU HOSTED THAT AREN'T DOING A GREAT JOB.

PLEASE STOP. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM 9, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE A

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FIRE CHIEF. FIRE CHIEF. YEAH. SORRY.

MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL. OVER LAST WEEK, THERE WAS A DECISION MADE, AS I SHARED WITH YOU, TO TEMPORARILY CLOSE FIRE STATION 3 FOR STAFFING REASONS OR THE AVAILABILITY OF STAFFING.

THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT WAS IN TODAY'S PAPER THAT I DON'T THINK ACCURATELY REFLECT THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THAT.

AND SO I'VE ASKED CHIEF LEONARD TO GIVE A BRIEF TO COUNCIL, MAYBE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD ON IT, AS WELL AS FOR THE SAKE AND THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE TO GET AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF WHAT WHY THE CLOSURE AND WHAT IT REALLY IS AND IN WHAT IT ISN'T DONE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

I LIKE CITY MANAGER STATED.

I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE ACTIONS THAT I IMPOSED ON LA VERNE FIRE DEPARTMENT EARLIER THIS PAST WEEK.

FIRST OF ALL, THE SERVICE DELIVERY MODEL THAT LA VERNE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD FOR YEARS WAS CHANGED LAST THURSDAY.

IT WAS CHANGED SPECIFICALLY.

WHAT I DID WAS I BROWNED OUT RESCUE AMBULANCE 63 FROM THE ESPERANZA FIRE STATION, A BROWNOUT IN THE FIRE SERVICE INDUSTRY REFERRED TO A UNIT THAT'S TEMPORARILY OUT OF SERVICE. IT'S NOT CLOSED.

A CLOSED UNIT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF OPENING BACK UP.

IN THIS CASE, WE BROWNED OUT RESCUE AMBULANCE 63.

LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. LIVER AND FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS 33 OPERATIONAL PERSONNEL THAT WORK 24 HOUR SHIFTS.

THERE'S 11 OF THOSE ON DUTY ANY GIVEN DAY.

CURRENTLY, THE LA VERNE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS EXPERIENCING SOME STAFFING ISSUES.

WE HAVE FIVE VACANT POSITIONS.

WE HAVE FOUR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT ARE UNFILLED BECAUSE OF PERSONAL INJURIES OR ILLNESSES. THIS REPRESENTS NINE INDIVIDUAL OR OPEN SPOTS IN THE ORGANIZATION.

WHEN WE ONLY HAVE 33 SPOTS ALL TOGETHER, THAT REPRESENTS 30 PERCENT OF OUR WORKFORCE.

THE RESULT OF THIS IS THAT THE PERSONNEL OF THE LA VERNE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN WORKING

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WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR FOLKS THAT ARE DEALING WITH LIFE SAFETY SITUATIONS EVERY DAY ARE MAKING WISE DECISIONS NOT ONLY FOR THEIR HEALTH, BUT THE HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE SERVING AND THAT PARAMEDICS ARE TREATING.

SO DUE TO THE STAFFING SHORTAGE.

I HAD TO MAKE A CHANGE. SO THE IMMEDIATE ACTION WAS TO BROWN OUT RESCUE AMBULANCE 63.

BY DOING THIS, BASICALLY WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE REMOVED TWO PEOPLE FROM DUTY EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, EVERY DAY OF THE MONTH, WHICH REPRESENTS 60 SHIFTS AT THE END OF 60 FORCE SHIFTS AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

SO THIS TAKES THAT BURDEN OF BEING FORCED TO WORK 60 TIMES OFF OF OUR PERSONNEL, GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO RECUPERATE AND GET BACK TO WORK IN A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.

WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT RESOURCES THIS WOULD AFFECT IN THE CITY AND HOW I COULD HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT ON THE CITY, WE DID SOME STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OF OUR RESPONSES DURING 2019.

THE DATA SHOWED US THAT BY BROWNING OUT RESCUE AMBULANCE 63, IT WOULD IMPACT APPROXIMATELY ONE CALL PER DAY, LESS THAN ONE CALL PER DAY.

AND ULTIMATELY IN PATIENTS THAT ARE TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL FROM THAT AREA AROUND FIRE STATION 63 WOULD IMPACT LESS THAN ONE PATIENT PER WEEK.

SO CLEARLY WITHIN OUR CITY, THAT WAS THE AREA THAT WOULD BE LEAST IMPACTED BY BROWNING OUT THAT ONE UNIT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BROWN OUT A UNIT WITHOUT PUTTING SOME MITIGATION IN PLACE TO TRY AND LIMIT THE EFFECTS OF THE ACTIONS THAT I'VE TAKEN.

SO FIRST, I WANT TO PROVIDE A DEFINITION TO EVERYBODY.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AN A.L.S.

TRANSPORT, IT'S ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT.

THAT'S WHEN THE PARAMEDICS FIRE ENGINE, THE PARAMEDICS SHOW UP TO YOUR HOUSE.

THEY TREAT THE PATIENT AND THE PARAMEDICS GO WITH THE PATIENT TO THE HOSPITAL.

THOSE ARE TYPICALLY YOUR CARDIAC PATIENTS, YOUR RESPIRATORY PATIENTS, YOUR ACUTE TRAUMA PATIENTS. FOLKS THAT NEED PARAMEDICS BY THEIR SIDE FROM THE TIME OF THE INJURY UNTIL THE TIME THEY GET NEXT TO THAT DOCTOR.

A BLS RESPONSE OR BASIC LIFE SUPPORT ARE THE FOLKS THAT WE GO OUT ON A CALL AND IT'S THE LESS EMERGENT ONES. THE FIREMEN OR THE PARAMEDICS CAN STABILIZE THE PATIENT AND THEY CAN BE SENT TO THE HOSPITAL IN AN AMBULANCE, BUT WITHOUT THE PARAMEDICS ESCORTING THEM.

SO HAVING GIVEN THAT DEFINITION, THE MITIGATION ACTIONS WE PUT IN PLACE.

WE HAVE ONE RESCUE AMBULANCE REMAINING IN THE CITY, RESCUE AMBULANCE 61.

OUR TYPICAL CALL WITHIN OUR CITY WOULD GET AN ENGINE COMPANY AND A RESCUE AMBULANCE.

THE MITIGATION I PUT IN PLACE WAS TO WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH CARE AMBULANCE TO SEND A BLS AMBULANCE TO EVERY ONE OF OUR INCIDENTS.

SO WHAT WE END UP ON A DISPATCH.

WE HAVE AN ENGINE COMPANY OUR 861 AND A BLS AMBULANCE.

ONCE THE UNITS GET ON SCENE, THEY'LL DO AN ASSESSMENT OF THE PATIENT.

IF IT'S GOING TO BE A ALS TRANSPORT, WE CAN CANCEL THE CARE AMBULANCE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEED THEM IF WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A BLS PATIENT RESCUE AMBULANCE 61 CAN GO AVAILABLE AS SOON AS PRACTICAL SO THAT THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR THE NEXT CALL.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ROLE THAT RESCUE AMBULANCE 63 HAS PLAYED IN THE CITY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, IS COVERING BEHIND RISK AMBULANCE 61 BECAUSE OF THEIR COMMITMENT TIME ON A.L.S. CALLS AND MAINLY THEIR COMMITMENT TIME ON FOLLOW UP TO THE HOSPITAL ON THESE BLS CALLS AND THEN BEING AT THE HOSPITAL TRYING TO GO AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T OFFLOAD THEIR PATIENT BECAUSE OF CAPACITY ISSUES THAT LOCAL HOSPITALS.

BY TAKING RESCUE AMBULANCE 61 OUT OF THAT ARENA OF TRANSPORTING BLS PATIENTS, IT FREES THEM UP TO COVER THE SECOND NEW CALLS.

SO THAT DEALS WITH OUR E.M.S.

ISSUES. IN THE FIRE SIDE.

WE GET A FIRE RESPONSE IN THE CITY.

WE RESPOND ALL OUR RESOURCES THAT ARE STAFFED AND AVAILABLE AT THE TIME ON ANY GIVEN DAY THAT USED TO BE NINE PERSONNEL WITH THE WITH THE BROWN OUT OF RESCUE AMBULANCE 63, UNFORTUNATELY WERE DOWN TO SEVEN PERSONNEL AND A FULL RESPONSE IN THE CITY.

SO WE'RE LEANING ON LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST. I HAVE HAD DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

I'VE HAD CORRESPONDENCE WITH THEM, THEY UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION WE'RE DEALING WITH AND THEY'RE WILLING TO HELP, BUT WE CAN'T ABUSE THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT. I'M QUOTING THEM.

SO THE NEXT OBVIOUS QUESTION IS WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET RESCUE AMBULANCE 63 BACK IN SERVICE? BECAUSE THE STATION IS NOT CLOSED, IT'S BROWNED OUT.

SO OUR RECRUITS OUR ONGOING RECRUITMENT EFFORTS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS GOING THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE WE ANTICIPATE THEM BEING READY TO START OUR TWO WEEK ORIENTATION ACADEMY. MARCH 2ND IS OUR TARGET DATE.

THAT'S A 14 DAY ACADEMY.

WE ALSO HAVE SEVEN ADDITIONAL CANDIDATES, POTENTIAL HIRES THAT WE'LL BE INTERVIEWING ON

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IN JUST TWO DAYS. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR HISTORY TELLS US THAT EVEN INTERVIEWING SEVEN CANDIDATES, WE'LL BE LUCKY TO GET TWO OR THREE OUT OF THAT.

BUT STILL, WE KNOW WE'VE GOT THREE THERE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS.

NOW, MOST IMPORTANTLY TO US IS TO GET OUR INJURED AND ILL EMPLOYEES THAT ARE OFF DUTY RIGHT NOW, THOSE FOUR INDIVIDUALS BACK TO WORK, HEALTHY, AS FAST AS WE CAN, TRYING TO FORECAST WHEN ALL THIS IS GOING TO FALL IN PLACE SO WE CAN OPEN RESCUE AMBULANCE 63 BACK UP. MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A FULLY STAFFED BACK IN SERVICE 24/7 BY THE COMPLETION OF THE ORIENTATION ACADEMY, WHICH WILL START ON MARCH 2ND.

THAT'S OUR GOAL. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED EVERY DAY BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU GUYS TO DO IN A COMMUNITY TO BE PATIENT WITH US AS WE GET OUR WORKFORCE BACK UP TO SPEED, AS WE GET THEM BACK TO WORK AND START BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE VACANCIES EVEN WITH THESE SIX SPOTS THAT WE'RE NO LONGER STAFFING.

ONCE WE CAN GET THE WORKFORCE HEALTHY BACK TO WORK AND AVAILABLE, WHEN WE'VE GOT A DAY WE'VE GOT TWO PARAMEDICS THAT WE CAN PUT UP AT STATION 63 OPEN AND ALREADY BACK UP.

WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. THAT'S OUR INTENTION.

THE NEXT QUESTION TO ME. WHEN'S THAT CAN HAPPEN? I DON'T KNOW. IT COULD BE NEXT WEEK.

IT COULD BE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.

IT COULD BE THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW.

I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE TO IT BECAUSE OF THE SERVICE MODEL WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE RELYING ON CARE AMBULANCE AND WE'RE RELYING ON LOS ANGELES COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT TO HELP BACK US UP.

SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO TOMORROW MORNING.

WE HAVE TO FORECAST THAT.

AND MY DIRECTION TO MY BATTALION CHIEFS ARE TO EVALUATE THE AVAILABLE WORKFORCE AND 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE IDENTIFY WHEN WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT BACK UP.

SO WE'LL KNOW IN ADVANCE WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN.

IN SUMMARY, THE DECISION TO BROWN OUT RESCUE AMBULANCE 63 WAS NOT MADE EASILY.

I UNDERSTAND IT POTENTIALLY HAS A PROFOUND IMPACT EMERGENCY SERVICES IN THE CITY.

IT WAS THAT IT WAS THE BEST OF THE OF THE BAD OPTIONS THAT WE HAD.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH THE MITIGATION WE'VE PUT IN PLACE BY UTILIZING CARE AMBULANCE. WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST FOUR DAYS, WHICH WAS A LONG HOLIDAY WEEKEND, THERE WERE NO CALLS OR SERVICES THAT WERE EVEN DISPATCHED IN FIRE STATION 3'S FIRST IN.

AND WITH THAT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE CITY THERE ARE NO CALLS THAT HAD A DELAYED DISPATCH OR THAT HAD RESOURCES NOT RESPOND TO IT.

SO WE MET OUR GOAL 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME WITH THE REDUCED RESOURCES WE HAVE IN PLACE.

WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND THE UNDERSTANDING YOU HELPED US GET THROUGH THIS DIFFICULT STAFFING SITUATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER IT.

YEAH, I DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CLARIFYING CLOSED VS.

BROWNED OUT. I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T REPORTED THAT ON THE MEDIA AND THE WEB SITE. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT AREA.

WE LIVE RIGHT THERE ON [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT H.O.A.

THERE'S 357 HOMES IN OUR ASSOCIATION THAT SURROUND THAT FIRE STATION.

EVEN ON THE WEST SIDE OF ESPERANZA, THOSE ARE PART OF OUR ASSOCIATION.

WHEN THAT WAS CONSIDERED BEING BUILT, WE WERE VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN PUSHING THE RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT IT AND UNDERSTAND THE NEED.

AND SO WHERE EVERYBODY UP THERE IS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT.

FRIDAY, AFTER IT WAS POSTED ON THE FIREFIGHTERS WEB SITE, I STARTED GETTING E-MAILS.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION.

I START GETTING EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS IN MY BOARD.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING? WHY IS THIS CLOSED? SO I HAD TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT ON MY FACEBOOK ACCOUNT.

I DON'T DO NEXTDOOR.

AND I JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND YOU AND I MET AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

YOU KNEW HOW I FELT.

AND I UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T SAY HERE IS THAT I PUT OUT THERE.

IS THAT LOOKING AT THE THREE STATIONS, MAYBE YOU DID.

THE THREE STATIONS THAT NUMBER THREE IS THE LEAST IMPACTED.

THE OTHER TWO ARE MAJOR.

THE CONCERN I HEARD ALL WEEKEND LONG FROM THE RESIDENTS.

IS THE RESPONSE TIME? WHAT WILL IT BE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT USED A LOT, THE RESPONSE TIME IS SCARY.

WE HAD TWO LIVES SAVED UP.

THERE MIGHT NOT SOUND LIKE A LOT OVER THE LAST YEARS, BUT TWO LIVES SAVED TO THAT FAMILY MEMBER. IT'S A LOT.

WHAT NOW? HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THE RESPONSE TIMES BETWEEN STATION TWO? IF THEY CAN'T COME FROM ONE.

COMING UP ESPERANZA'S NOT EASY.

THANK YOU. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT.

TWO LIVES IS A LOT. BUT ONE LIFE IS A LOT.

OUR HOPE IS THAT WE HAVE NO LOSS OF LIFE CERTAINLY NO EXTENDED [INAUDIBLE] IN PATIENT

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HAVING SAID THAT, THE LOCATION OF FIRE STATION 2 ON WHEELER, WE KNOW, IS BASICALLY ACROSS THE CANYON FROM FIRE STATION 3.

SO THERE'S GONNA BE A DELAYED RESPONSE AND WE'RE GONNA GET IT.

THEY'VE GOT TO GET UP AND AROUND.

RESCUE AMBULANCE 61 IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

THEY'RE GONNA BE THE FIRST IN PARAMEDIC UNIT GOING TO [INAUDIBLE].

IF THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE WAITING FOR FOR MUTUAL AID FROM ANOTHER ORGANIZATION.

I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE INCREASED RESPONSE TIMES.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT RESOURCES ARE COMMITTED AT THE TIME, WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS A WEEK AGO OR TWO WEEKS AGO.

THE REALITY IS NOW WE'RE A LITTLE MORE VULNERABLE THAN WE WERE A WEEK AGO.

SO I WOULD I DON'T HAVE A TIME FOR YOU.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. TO SAY IT'S A TWO MINUTE RESPONSE, TIME FOR 62 TO GET AROUND OR FIRE STATIONS 63.

I DON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING HARD TO TRY TO GET THIS BACK OPEN AND THE SOONER THE BETTER. THANK YOU. I AGREE.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S IT.

I'VE ALSO RECEIVED E-MAILS AND IT'S VERY DISTURBING TO PEOPLE THAT WE BROWNED OUT A STATION AND THE RESPONSE FOR THE PEOPLE IN NORTH LA VERNE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE IF YOU'RE HERE OR THERE, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THAT THIRD WHEEL.

ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS, IS THAT NOW WE BROWNED OUT THE STATION AND YOU HAVE THE TWO PEOPLE DOWN AND YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THE 64 SHIFTS, 60 FORCED SHIFTS.

MY CONCERN IS WITH THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW AND STILL WORKING THE OVERTIME IS THE HEALTH OF THOSE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DOING STILL DOING OVERTIME TO COVER THE SHIFTS.

YOU STILL HAVE THE FIVE THAT ARE GONE FOUR THAT'RE OUT AND YOU HAVE THREE IN BACKGROUND.

YOU HAVE SEVEN ADDITIONAL THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IF SOMEONE ELSE LEAVES THE DEPARTMENT FOR ANOTHER AGENCY, WHICH IF ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW.

L.A. COUNTY. L.A. CITY HAS A VACUUM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY THEY HAD A LOT OF RETIREES. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE PULLING FROM EVERY COMMUNITY, NOT JUST OURS.

SO IT'S A BIG ISSUE. AND WE NEED TO REALLY BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN DO A LATERAL MOVE TO ANOTHER AGENCY AND A BUMP UP IN PAY, TOO.

SO IT'S VERY SERIOUS.

AND MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS FIRST, THE SAFETY AND I KNOW EVERYBODY'S WATCHING IT.

I'M SURE YOU'RE WATCHING IT AS YOU CAME ON.

WHAT DO WE KIND OF DO TO TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THESE THESE PEOPLE DON'T GET INJURED? WELL, I'M UNDER FULL DISCLOSURE.

WE'RE DEALING WITH A BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION WITH ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO ANOTHER AGENCY. SO THE ATTRITION ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST YEAR ARE ARE GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF US FOR A WHILE.

WE STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT. IF WE HIRED THE THE SEVEN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THE THREE IN BACKGROUND THAT GIVE US 10, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY OPENINGS.

BUT I'D TAKE THEM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT WE'RE GOING TO NEED ONE MORE WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

SO WE'RE YOU KNOW, WELL, BEFORE I GOT HERE, THIS AGENCY'S BEEN DEALING WITH RECRUITMENT OF RETENTION ISSUES. THOSE ARE IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

AS FAR AS THE HEALTH OF OUR OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND THE FIRE STATION.

I BELIEVE THAT THE MITIGATION EFFORTS WE TOOK ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROFOUND EFFECT ON THEIR ABILITY TO RECUPERATE AND REGENERATE AND GET BACK TO FULL STRENGTH, FULL PERSONAL STRENGTH. AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WE CAN START GETTING THE AGENCY BACK TO FULL STRENGTH.

WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE MONITORING ON A DAILY BASIS.

LIKE I SAID, THAT ABILITY TO OPEN RESCUE AMBULANCE 63 IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THEIR ABILITY TO BE HEALTHY AND GET BACK TO WORK.

IF THEY'RE NOT HEALTHY AND THEY CAN'T WORK ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO START STAFFING THAT UNIT. WE'RE GOING TO TITRATE THIS TO THE ABILITY OF OUR WORKFORCE, A HEALTHY WORKFORCE.

IN YOUR ESTIMATION TOO THE AMBULANCE SERVICES THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE AND ALSO COUNTY, I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT WE DON'T WE'RE NOT HIRED.

WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH COUNTY.

IT'S JUST A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL ASSIST US IF THERE'S AN ISSUE.

CORRECT. I KNOW THE FIRE PART OF IT.

IT'S PARTIALLY CORRECT.

THERE ARE DISTRICTS AROUND THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL AN AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT, WHERE WE HAVE A WRITTEN AGREEMENT WITH LOS ANGELES COUNTY, THAT IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT IN THOSE DISTRICTS, WE WOULD GO AND PROVIDE RESOURCES.

TYPICALLY, IT'S AN R.A.

THAT WOULD RESPOND OUT OF THE CITY.

I'M AND THAT IS THAT ALSO TOP OF THE COMMUNITY UP NEAR MARSHALL CANYON.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT OVER THE PAST FOUR DAYS, OUR R.A.

61 LEFT OUR CITY EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DOWN.

WHEN I LEFT OUR CITY ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, BUT ON TWO DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, RESCUE FROM LOS ANGELES COUNTY CAME IN.

THAT'S THE AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

LET ME FOR CLARIFICATION.

IF THEY RESPONDED TO THOSE SPECIFIC DISTRICTS WHERE YOU HAVE AN AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY DID. PROBABLY DID.

THEN THAT'S PART OF AUTOMATIC AID.

AND THAT MEANS IF THEY CALL, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO GO.

MUTUAL AID MEANS IF WE CALL YOU, WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE THAT SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THESE SPECIFIC RESOURCES, MUTUAL AID, WE CALL THEM AND WE ASK FOR RESOURCES.

AND THEY IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE, THEY WILL SEND THEM.

THEY'VE BEEN AN EXCELLENT PARTNER.

THEY'VE STEPPED UP FOR US WHENEVER WE'VE NEEDED THEM, AS WE'VE BEEN AN EXCELLENT PARTNER

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WE JUST CAN'T ABUSE THAT RELATIONSHIP.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDIDNESS.

AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT IT IS A SERIOUS SITUATION.

AND WE HOPE THAT THE NEW HIRES COME IN AND COME IN QUICKLY AND DON'T LEAVE QUICKLY.

OK. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CHIEF, I HAVE A QUESTION.

WE HAVE A MUTUAL AGREEMENT WITH COVINA FOR DISPATCH.

OUR COMMUNICATION OFFICERS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME EQUIPMENT, THEY CAN HELP US AND WE CAN HELP THEM. IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF GETTING THIS KIND OF THIS SITUATION WHERE WE CAN BRING IN FIREFIGHTERS FROM A DIFFERENT AGENCY TO FILL THE GAP UNTIL WE GET THOSE THREE, ETC.? EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA, WE HELP EACH OTHER WITH MUTUAL AID RESOURCES. SOMETIMES IT'S A GO TO A FIRE IN THERE FIRST AND SOMETIMES IT'S TO GO TO THEIR CITY AND COVER IT. IN A PREVIOUS LIFE OF MINE.

IN YEARS PAST, WE HAD A STRIKE TEAM OR FIVE ENGINES FROM SAN FRANCISCO DOWN COVERING THE SADDLEBACK VALLEY OF ORANGE COUNTY.

THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO BRING THEM DOWN AND COVER BECAUSE YOU HAVE A RESOURCE NEED THAT IS PURELY IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

AND WE DO THAT FLUIDLY THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO ASSISTANCE FOR HIRE THAT YOU'RE GONNA PAY TO JUST COME STAFF BECAUSE YOU HAVE A STAFFING ISSUE.

I CAN. ABSOLUTELY TELL YOU THAT THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING, AGENCIES ALL OVER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ARE HAVING.

I JUST WITH A WEEK YOU SPENT THE WEEKEND WITH THE FIRE CHIEF FROM CORONA.

THEY'VE GOT SEVEN FIRE STATIONS AND HE'S DOWN ELEVEN FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS.

AND WHILE WE WERE TOGETHER FOR THE WEEKEND, HE LOOKED AT HIS PHONE.

HE SAYS, NOW I'M DOWN 12.

IT'S A IT'S AN ISSUE FOR THE SMALLER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. I CAN SPEAK FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OK, OK, AT THIS TIME, WE ARE WILL

[9. PUBLIC COMMENTS/ORAL COMMUNICATIONS]

AND THIS IS TIME SET ASIDE ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, I HAVE SOME SPEAKER CARDS.

THERE ARE BLUE SPEAKER CARDS AT THE PODIUM.

SO IF YOU WILL FILL ONE OF THOSE OUT PRIOR TO SPEAKING OR AFTER SPEAKING, GIVE IT TO OUR CITY CLERK. WE'D APPRECIATE IT.

THE FIRST PERSON UP IS DAVID MCELWAIN.

AND DAVID.

YEAH, I KNOW WHERE HE SITS.

I SAW. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR KENDRICK, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS DAVID MCELWAIN.

I LIVE AT 2525 D STREET RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

BEEN A HAPPY RESIDENT HERE FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS NOW.

AND I AM HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU AND WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND FELLOW CITIZENS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR MEASURE LV, WHICH WILL FINALLY ADDRESS THE ONGOING FISCAL CRISIS AND THE GROWING FISCAL CRISIS FACED BY BY THIS CITY IN ORDER TO FUND ITS BADLY NEEDED PUBLIC SERVICES OF ALL SORTS, NOT ONLY POLICE AND FIRE, PUBLIC SAFETY, THE PARKS AND RECREATION, CITY PLANNING, PUBLIC WORKS AND ALL THE OTHER VITAL RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO BE TO HAVE A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN THE CITY OF LA VERNE.

AND WE HAVE ENJOYED THAT HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT CITY SERVICES. AND AS THEY SAY, THERE'S NO FREE LUNCH.

THINGS HAVE GOT TO BE PAID FOR.

AND I'VE SEEN SO MANY POSTS ON NEXTDOOR WHERE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THEY AND BY THEY THEY MEAN YOU TAKING MONEY FROM TAXPAYERS IN ORDER TO FUND THIS MEASURE.

AND I KEEP ON RESPONDING TO THEM THAT THEY IS US.

BACK IN 1776, WE ADDRESSED THE THE ISSUE OF TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

WE TAX OURSELVES VOLUNTARILY.

WE VOTE IN ELECTIONS AND THEN WE VOTE FOR LEADERS WHO CAN WISELY AND HOPEFULLY PROFICIENTLY AND EFFICIENTLY ALLOCATE THOSE RESOURCES.

AND I HAVE TRUST IN OUR LEADERSHIP.

I HAVE TRUST IN OUR OUR PROFESSIONAL CITY STAFF.

AND I HOPE THAT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY JOIN ME IN GETTING OUT IN MARCH AND VOTING IN FAVOR. YES. ON MEASURE LV.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DAVID.

ACTUALLY, YOU CAN START VOTING 11 DAYS BEFORE MARCH 3RD, WHATEVER DATE THAT IS WITH THE

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SO IT'S FEBRUARY SOMETHING, FEBRUARY 22ND FOR OUR CITY CLERK WHO IS IN CHARGE OF OUR ELECTION. OK, NOW WE'LL GO TO CHRISTA [INAUDIBLE].

CHRISTA.

GOOD EVENING. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR.

MY NAME IS CHRISTA [INAUDIBLE] AND I'M A LONG TIME LA VERNE RESIDENT.

I KNOW THAT IF WE DON'T SECURE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, THE CITY OF LA VERNE MAY BE FORCED TO REDUCE ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES, SECURING THE THREE QUARTER OF A PERCENT SALES TAX AS A POSITIVE WAY FOR OUR CITY TO KEEP OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE AND ALLOW VISITORS AND PATRONS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS BEAUTIFUL, SPECIAL AND UNIQUE CITY THAT I LOVE SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRISTA.

THANK YOU FOR WAITING TO DELIVER THAT.

BRUCE BECKER.

I COULDN'T AGREE WITH THOSE TWO PEOPLE LESS.

I THINK THEY'RE WAY OFF BASE.

I ALSO I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING TONIGHT, BUT WHEN I FIND OUT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CLOSE A FIRE STATION FOR SIX WEEKS, SEVEN WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION, THAT KIND OF SCREAMS OF DIRTY POLITICS TO ME.

KIND OF KIND OF SAYS TO ME THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE UP HERE HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND. SO I'M VERY OPPOSED TO THE SALES TAX.

IN A MINUTE, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THREE REASONS THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T HEARD OF WHY I'M OPPOSED.

BUT BEFORE I GIVE THOSE THREE REASONS, I WANT TO SAY THAT, FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME IS BRUCE BECKER, A 42 YEAR RESIDENT OF LA VERNE.

I'M LATE BECAUSE I WAS COACHING A BASKETBALL GAME.

I'M VOLUNTEER BASKETBALL COACH FOR BONITA HIGH SCHOOL.

I HAVE BEEN FOR 18 YEARS.

THANK YOU. I PAST PRESIDENT OF LA VERNE LAZERS.

I WAS ON THE YOUTH SPORTS COUNCIL.

OK. SO I ALSO AM THE GUY THAT MOST OF YOU SEE RUNNING EVERY MORNING.

I'VE BEEN RUNNING FOR 42 YEARS.

I'VE RUN OVER SIXTY THOUSAND MILES AND LA VERNE.

SO A LOT OF YOU KNOW ME FROM THEN.

MOST OF YOU DON'T KNOW ME BECAUSE I'M WEARING A HAT, YOU KNOW? SO I'VE BEEN IN EVERY STREET IN LA VERNE EXCEPT FOR THE STREETS ON NORTH OF WHEELER.

OK, SO.

MOST CITIZENS OF LA VERNE THAT I'VE TALKED TO FEEL THAT THE RETIREMENT BENEFITS ARE NOT A PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND FOR SOME REASON YOU GUYS IN A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO SAY THAT RETIREMENT BENEFITS ARE PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY. RETIREMENT BENEFITS ARE A SEPARATE LIABILITY ITEM ON A BALANCE SHEET. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

WHEN YOU'RE RETIRED, YOU RETIRE THAT PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND YOU CAN'T LUMP IN TRYING TO SELL A SALES TAX BY SAYING IT'S A PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO I'M WAY OPPOSED TO THAT.

ALSO, I TELL YOU, JUST BY THE WAY, THAT LAST MONTH I TALKED TO 50 PEOPLE COMING OUT OF VONS AND [INAUDIBLE] BROTHERS AND ASKED THEM TO NAME ME TWO POLICEMEN.

ZERO. ONLY THREE OUT OF 50 COULD EVEN NAME ME ONE.

SO I'M KIND OF I DON'T THINK THERE'S THIS CLOSE RELATIONSHIP TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK THERE IS.

BUT OK, BEFORE I GET TO MY THREE REASONS, I HAVE ONE MORE THING.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SELL THE SALES TAX TO THE PEOPLE IN THE MOBILE HOME PARK? THERE'S $3.1 BILLION THAT YOU WANT.

PROBABLY A HUNDRED THOUSAND OF THAT IS INCOME THAT YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM THE MOBILE HOME RESIDENTS. THEY'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE LESS MONEY FOR FOOD AND MEDICINE BECAUSE YOU'RE IMPOSING AN ADDITIONAL TAX ON THEM.

YOU'RE TAKING AWAY THEIR INCOME.

AND YET SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SAY, WELL, I'M FOR RENT CONTROLLING THEM ALL MOBILE HOME PARKS, BUT HEY, LET'S PASS THE SALES TAX.

THAT'S SPENDABLE INCOME THAT YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW THE THREE REASONS I'M GOING TO GUARANTEE YOU THAT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF THESE BEFORE. OK. NUMBER ONE, I'M GOING TO CALL THIS ONE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL.

ECONOMIST, I WAS AN ACCOUNT MANAGER, ACTUARIES, CITY PLANNERS HAVE KNOWN FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SUSTAINABLE RETIREMENT PROGRAM.

I KNEW 30 YEARS AGO THAT A SUSTAINABLE RETIREMENT PROGRAM WAS SOMETHING LIKE THE RULE OF

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WHEN YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE IN YOUR AGE ABDA TO NINETY FIVE, YOU SHOULD RETIRE AT 60 PERCENT OF YOUR SALARY WHEN YOU RETIRE.

YOU SHOULD HAVE PAID OFF YOUR MORTGAGE.

YOUR KIDS ARE GONE. YOU'RE NOT PAYING TUITION.

YOU DON'T NEED ALL THAT INCOME.

THAT IS A. THAT IS A SUSTAINABLE RETIREMENT PROGRAM.

NOW THAT WAS 30 YEARS AGO.

NOW THE RULE OF THUMB WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE HUNDRED AND ONE FIFTY FIVE BECAUSE PEOPLE LIVE LONGER. YOU CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE ON RETIREMENT LONGER THAN THEY WORK.

IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

AND THAT'S WHERE THIS MOST OF THE SALES TAX IS GOING TO GO.

YOU MAY NOT SAY THAT, BUT THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING.

OK. OK, JUST ALONG THAT LINE TOO: FIREMEN AND POLICEMEN ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS.

RIGHT. THERE ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS.

AS PUBLIC SERVANTS, THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE A RETIREMENT PROGRAM THAT IS BETTER THAN WHAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN LA VERNE HAVE.

THEY SHOULDN'T THEY SHOULD HAVE A RETIREMENT PROGRAM.

A CITY RETIREMENT PROGRAM SHOULD MIRROR WHAT THE RETIREMENT PEOPLE IN THIS CITY HAVE HAVE. YOU CAN'T HAVE A RETIREMENT PROGRAM IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.

OK, THAT'S ONE. ALL RIGHT.

I HOPE I HOPE YOU AGREE A LITTLE BIT.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING. OK.

NUMBER TWO. NUMBER TWO, MY GRANDFATHER OWNED A CLOTHING STORE IN SAN GABRIEL A LONG, LONG TIME AGO. THE SALES TAX WERE THREE OR THREE AND A HALF PERCENT.

OK, SO WHAT HAVE IS HAPPENED IS EVERY 10 YEARS, THE SALES TAX IS BEING INCREASED BY 1 PERCENT. OK, SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NOW, WHEN IN 40 YEARS, WHEN DON KENDRICK, THE THIRD IS THE MAYOR OF LA VERNE.

SO HE'S GOING TO BE SAYING WE NEED A 15 PERCENT SALES TAX.

AND I DON'T HAVE A SON. OK.

WELL, ALL RIGHT, THEN.

[INAUDIBLE]. OK.

BUT YOU HAVE TO IF YOU EXTRAPOLATE IT, IT'S GOING TO BE A 15 PERCENT SALES TAX IN 15 YEARS THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE UP HERE TRYING TO PUSH ON THE CITIZENS OF LA VERNE.

OK. IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE AGAIN.

YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP DOING THAT.

OK. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

THIS ONE. I HOPE MOST OF YOU UNDERSTAND ONE OF MY HEROES IS MILTON FRIEDMAN, NOBEL PRIZE WINNING ECONOMISTS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO AND STANFORD INSTITUTE, A BRILLIANT GUY. WHAT HE SAYS IS THAT WHENEVER YOU RAISE THE PRICE OF, LET'S SAY, A CAR 6 OR 7 PERCENT, YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE THE CONSUMERS THAT THERE'S VALUE IN DOING THAT.

IT'S THE SAME WITH THE SALES TAX.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO RAISE THE SALES TAX 6 OR 7 PERCENT, YOU HAVE TO CONVINCE THESE PEOPLE THAT THERE'S VALUE IN THAT SALES TAX.

I OFFER YOU THAT THERE'S LITTLE TO NO VALUE IF YOU'RE GIVING THAT TO TO BOLSTER RETIREMENT BENEFITS UNLESS THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RETIRED ARE LIVING IN LA VERNE AND SPENDING ALL THAT MONEY IN LA VERNE.

THERE IS NO VALUE. OK, IF YOU BUT IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THIS 3.1 MILLION DOLLARS AND YOU WERE TO DO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, THEN I WOULD SAY THERE'S VALUE BECAUSE YOU'RE HELPING THE ECONOMY, YOU'RE HIRING PEOPLE.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW WITH THIS SALES TAX IS OF NO VALUE.

ALL RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE MY THREE REASONS.

IF YOU IF YOU EVEN THINK THAT I'M A LITTLE BIT RIGHT, THEN I THINK YOU OUGHT TO VOTE AGAINST IT. OK.

SO NOW I'M GETTING GET A LITTLE BIT PERSONAL.

THAT'S OK. I HAVE TO HOLD.

YOU'VE BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR, I THINK, 14 YEARS.

MAYOR FOR EIGHT. MR. [INAUDIBLE] AND HIS PREDECESSOR, MR. [INAUDIBLE]. YOU'RE THE CAPTAINS OF THE SHIP.

I KIND OF HOLD YOU TWO RESPONSIBLE FOR LETTING THIS SITUATION OCCUR.

I MEAN, I HAVE TOLD SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE.

YOU'RE THE GUY STEERING THE SHIP.

HOW DO YOU LET THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR WITHOUT SOME KIND OF REFORM THAT MAKES SENSE. IT JUST IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.

OK. SO I KNOW MY QUESTIONS ARE RHETORICAL, BUT I PROBABLY WILL GO TO ONE OF MAYOR KENDRICK'S PUBLIC FORUMS AND I'LL ASK HIM THESE SAME QUESTIONS, NOT RHETORICALLY.

I'LL ASK HIM TO ANSWER.

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THIS ROOM IS FULL OF PRETTY SMART PEOPLE.

OK. AND I THINK I'LL BE ABLE TO REBUT ANYTHING THAT HE SAYS.

SO I HOPE HE DOESN'T.

HE PROBABLY OUGHT TO IGNORE ME IF I SHOW UP AT HIS MEETING.

OK. WE WILL HAVE A WONDERFUL CONVERSATION, BRUCE.

OK. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M DONE. THAT'S WHY I'M AGAINST IT.

I DON'T THINK YOU'D HEARD THOSE THREE REASONS BEFORE.

I COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU A WHOLE BUNCH MORE REASONS, TOO, BUT.

OK. GOOD NIGHT.

BRUCE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT MEASURE LV IS GOING TO BE, BUT PLEASE KEEP COACHING KIDS, OK? AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND KEEP RUNNING.

JOHN WILSON.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FELLOW RESIDENTS OF LA VERNE, MY NAME IS JOHN WILSON.

I LIVE ON MORAN STREET, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER SEEN THIS GENTLEMAN RUN BECAUSE WE'RE IN BAJA LA VERNE.

WE'RE KIND OF EVERYBODY'S FORGOTTEN ABOUT US.

AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT IS OCCURRING IN THE CITY OF POMONA. IT IS THE CANNABIS OVERLAY HEARING THAT THEY HELD BACK IN OCTOBER.

SO I'M A LITTLE LATE GETTING HERE.

I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE CITY SAYING THAT THEY WERE GONNA GO AHEAD AND HAVE THIS.

I GUESS NEW LAW, THEY'RE GOING TO ISSUE EIGHT LICENSES.

SOME OF THEM BE FOR ACTUAL MANUFACTURING OF MARIJUANA.

I'LL CALL IT MARIJUANA. MARIJUANA PRODUCTS.

AND THAT MY HOME WAS IN ABOUT 400 FEET OF A POSSIBLE PLACE BECAUSE I LIVE.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE BRANDT IS.

I LIVE ON RIGHT ON FULTON AND RIGHT ACROSS THIS POMONA IN A WHOLE BIG INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.

SO PEOPLE WERE WALKING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRYING TO GET A COUPLE OF US TO GO TO THIS MEETING. AND I DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF IT TILL I GOT THIS LETTER, OF COURSE.

BUT THE INFORMATION GOING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL, OUR MAYOR AND OUR CITY MANAGER WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

SO BEFORE I WENT TO THIS MEETING, I HAPPENED TO RUN INTO BOB AT AN EVENT AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT IT AND HE KIND OF TOLD ME WHAT HAD BEEN GOING ON, FILLED ME IN, GAVE ME SOME BETTER INFORMATION. AND I DID UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS HAD BEEN DONE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, AT LEAST FROM THE MAYOR AND BOB'S OFFICE.

SO I WENT IN WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

SO WHEN I SHOWED UP FOR THE MEETING, FORTUNATELY FOR ME SITTING THERE, I WAS A LITTLE BIT EARLY THERE WAS THE POLICE CHIEF OF POMONA.

SO I WENT UP AND INTRODUCED MYSELF.

AND I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE MY OPINION IS WE'VE LIVED IN OUR HOME ON THAT STREET ON BRANDT FOR 25 YEARS AND WE'VE RAISED FIVE KIDS THERE.

MOST OF THEM HAVE GONE THROUGH BONITA.

WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS THAT HAVE GONE TO OTHER SCHOOLS.

MY WIFE'S FAMILY'S BEEN IN SAN DIMAS FOR A LOT LONGER THAN THAT.

AND THEY HAD KIDS GO THROUGH BONITA.

SO WE HAVE PRETTY HEAVY ROOTS HERE.

AND HAVING THAT HOME FOR THAT MANY YEARS, THAT'S OUR NEST EGG.

ALSO, OUR STREETS ALWAYS BEEN VERY SAFE.

WE NEVER REALLY HAD ANY INTEREST IN ISSUES WITH THAT.

MY REASON FOR GOING THAT NIGHT WAS TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF THERE WERE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT NEXT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT WOULD CAUSE A FEW ISSUES.

NUMBER ONE WOULD DEFINITELY BE A SAFETY ISSUE.

THERE COULD BE OTHER PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD POSSIBLY STEALING, DOING WHATEVER. AND THE OTHER THING.

IF THE SECONDARY POINT BECAUSE SAFETY IS THE FIRST THING, BUT THE SECONDARY PART WAS PROPERTY VALUES. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE INVESTMENT THAT MY WIFE AND I HAVE HAD IN THIS? THAT'S OUR NEST EGG.

THAT'S OUR PROPERTY. LA VERNE IS THE CITY.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY THAT SPOKE HERE TONIGHT TALKED ABOUT THE REASON WHY WE LIVE HERE IN LA VERNE. WE ALL KNOW WHY WE LIVE HERE IN LA VERNE.

SO WHEN I GOT A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I TASKED THEM WITH SHOULD THIS HAPPEN? I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE UP TO THE CITY OF POMONA AND THE CITY OF LA VERNE TO GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT MAYBE THEY COULD HELP POLICE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD A LITTLE BIT BETTER. AND THE POLICE CHIEF ACTUALLY AGREED WITH ME PRIOR TO MY COMMENTS.

BUT I DO WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND. AND BOB, IT WAS SAID IN THAT MEETING THAT THE CITY OF LA VERNE, THE MAYOR, HAD WRITTEN A LETTER AND ACTUALLY BEEN IN CONTACT.

AND THERE'D BEEN A LOT OF TALK GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT HOW THIS WAS GOING TO WORK WITH THE AT BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO EACH OTHER.

SO MY REASON FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT IS TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW AWARE EVERYBODY IS OF THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS AFFECTS

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THEY EXTENDED FOR 400 FEET TO SIX HUNDRED FEET.

AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR A THOUSAND FEET.

SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPROMISE.

ALSO, I'VE BEEN INFORMED FROM THE MAYOR THAT THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS COMING UP IN NOVEMBER WHICH MAY MAKE ALL OF THIS MOOT.

WHETHER IT DOES OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TO ALSO TASK YOU GUYS WITH SHOULD THERE BE SOMETHING GOING IN CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU DO GET TOGETHER WITH THE CITY OF POMONA AND COME UP WITH SOME WAY TO PROTECT US.

THE ONE THING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY PUTTING A RETAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS SECURITY THAT THEY'D HAVE IN ALL OF THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS THE SECOND ONE TO SPEAK BEFORE ALL THESE PEOPLE.

THE ONE THING I NEVER HEARD THAT NIGHT WAS YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE SECURITY FOR YOUR RETAIL OUTLETS. BUT WHERE'S THE SECURITY GOING TO BE FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PROVIDE THAT.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEPEND ON YOU.

SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, JOHN. TOM DARBY.

HOPE YOU'RE NOT STAYING OVERNIGHT.

IT LOOKS A LITTLE COLD IN HERE.

I DON'T KNOW. MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M TOM DARBY AND I LIVE AT 41 30 BRADFORD STREET.

I'VE RECENTLY LEARNED THAT MY NEIGHBOR, DOUG KIRK, OR [INAUDIBLE] HAS EXPRESSED A GRIEVANCE TO THE CITY CONCERNING HIS BELIEF THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF HIS DOG. I FEEL THAT I'M FORCED TO RESPOND TO THIS CLAIM AND MAKE IT PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. HIS ACTIONS AGAINST ME, MY FAMILY AND MY HOUSEHOLD.

OUR SHARED WALL WAS DOWN FOR REPAIR IN JULY OF 2014.

THERE WAS A BRIEF MINOR INCIDENT BETWEEN HIS DOG AND ONE OF MY DOGS.

AFTER THE INCIDENT, HIS DOG LOOKED FINE, BUT TO MAKE SURE I OFFERED TO TAKE HIS DOG TO THE VET AND PAY FOR THE VISIT.

BOTH HE AND LISA, HIS GIRLFRIEND AND OWNER OF THE HOUSEHOLD, SAID THAT THE DOG WAS OK, DECLINED MY OFFER AND SAID IT WAS NO BIG DEAL.

APPROXIMATELY 2 YEARS, FOUR MONTHS LATER, HIS DOG PASSED AWAY.

EIGHT MONTHS LATER FROM THAT, OR THIRTY SIX MONTHS AFTER THE ORIGINAL INCIDENT AT A NEIGHBOR'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, DOUG INFORMED ME THAT I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS DOG'S DEATH.

AFTER HIS CLAIM, DOUG ENGAGED ME, OUR BABYSITTER'S FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AND HOW I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH OF HIS DOG.

HE GAVE OUR DOG WALKER PHOTOS TO GIVE ME TO ME, ALONG WITH THE MESSAGE.

TELL TOM HE OWES ME FOR A DOG.

HE MENTIONED TO THE NEIGHBOR TO A NEIGHBOR THE AMOUNT OWED WAS FIVE THOUSAND BUCKS.

HE SPOKE TO ME OF HOW I COULD AFFORD IT.

HE THREATENED TO CALL MY EMPLOYER TO INFORM THEM OF MY BAD CHARACTER.

HE THREATENED TO HAVE THE INLAND VALLEY HUMANE SOCIETY COME AND TAKE MY DOGS AWAY.

HE MENTIONED A PETITION HE HAD CIRCULATED WITH OVER 200 SIGNATURES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACKING HIS CLAIM AGAINST ME.

WHEN THE EXISTENCE OF THE PETITION WAS VERIFIED, MINUS THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES I SENT DOUG A CEASE AND DESIST LETTER FROM MY LAWYER IN HOPES OF GETTING THIS HARASSING BEHAVIOR TO STOP THE LETTER IN PART.

I ASKED HIM NOT TO SPEAK TO US FOR ANY REASON.

THE LETTER ALSO ASKED LISA TO COMMUNICATE FOR NEIGHBORLY MATTERS.

LISA WAS PRESENT DURING SOME OF THE CONVERSATION AND IS WELL AWARE OF HIS ACTIONS.

THE REQUEST DID NOT DETER DOUG FROM HIS BEHAVIOR, IN FACT, IT IS ESCALATING.

OUR DRIVEWAYS ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND HE HAS PLACED PHOTOS IN HIS VAN WINDOW, PHOTOS AND SIGNS ON THE SIDE OF HIS HOUSE, IN THE WINDOWS OF HIS HOUSE AND PHOTOS HANGING FROM BUSHES AS WE WALK PAST THE SIDEWALK.

SO TO BE CLEARLY VISIBLE, THERE IS A MOTORCYCLE HELMET WITH GOGGLES MOUNTED ON TOP OF A LADDER LOOKING OVER THE FENCE AS IF IT'S KEEPING AN EYE ON US.

A SPOTLIGHT SHINING ON THE PHOTOS, SIGNS AND HELMET KEEPS THEM VISIBLE THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. SOMETIMES HE GUNS ENGINES IN HIS BACKYARD DAY OR NIGHT, CAUSING EXHAUST TO FILL OUR BACKYARD. THE SPOTLIGHT THAT COVERS HIS BACKYARD SHINES IN OUR BEDROOM WINDOW ON MANY NIGHTS. HE HAS KEPT HIS RADIO ON IN THE BACKYARD LOUDLY, LATE AT NIGHT, AND HE HAS SPOKEN TO ME AS I WALK PAST HIS PROPERTY ABOUT HIS CLAIM.

HE HAS SPOKEN TO MY WIFE, WHEN SHE IS ALONE WITH THE KIDS IN THE STROLLER, ABOUT HOW WE BETTER REPLACE HIS DOG.

THESE ACTIONS HAVE CAUSED MY WIFE TO BE AFRAID OF HIM.

SHE NOW CROSSES THE STREET TO PASS HIS PROPERTY IF SHE SEES HIM.

WE FEEL CONSTANTLY HARASSED BY HIS ACTIONS.

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I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEDIATE WITH DOUG AND LISA.

ANY ACTION THAT CAN HELP MEDIATE, MITIGATE THE SITUATION IS APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. JUST A MINUTE.

JUST CAN WE.

I JUST WANT TO JUST THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

I'VE ALREADY HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH TOM AS WELL AS ATTEMPTING TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE WITH HIS NEIGHBOR. OK, GREAT.

OK, GOOD.

THANK YOU, TOM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ELAINE GARCIA.

I'M SORRY. YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TALK? YES, SHE DID.

WHAT'S YOUR NAME? HI, I'M TOM KOKINIS, I LIVE ON 6 4 9 7 COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE.

I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 40 YEARS.

I'M THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE HOME.

I COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR TO ASK FOR HELP IN CITY WITH A CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATION AT MY HOME.

I SENT FLIERS OUT TO EACH OF YOU BOTH BY E-MAIL, AND I WAS SENT BY ELAINE AND MY WIFE BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE 6TH.

DID ANY OF YOU GUYS WE SEE THE PACKETS.

WOULD YOU TELL US WHAT IT'S ABOUT, PLEASE? IT'S CONCERNING MY AIR CONDITIONER.

THE ISSUE WITH MY NEIGHBOR.

BACK IN AUGUST I AND AT LEAST THREE OF OUR NEIGHBORS RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE COMPLAINT HAD BEEN LODGED AGAINST THE LOCATION OF THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT AT THE SIDE OF OUR HOUSE THIS YEAR, THAT HAS BEEN PLACED IN PLACE FOR 20 YEARS.

MY NEIGHBORS FOR 16 YEARS.

MY OTHER NEIGHBOR FOR 15 YEARS AND EIGHT YEARS, RESPECTIVELY.

IN FACT, THEY CANNOT BE SEEN FROM THE STREET, THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY OR FROM GOOGLE EARTH. I AM A 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF LA VERNE, ORIGINAL HOME OWNER OF THIS TRACT AND ADJACENT TO THE 18TH FAIRWAY OF THE SIERRA LA VERNE GOLF COURSE.

MY NEIGHBORS HAVE LIVED IN LA VERNE FOR 50 YEARS AND NINE YEARS RESPECTIVELY.

IN FACT, MAYOR KENDRICK SOLD MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET, HIS HOME WITH THE AIR CONDITIONER LOCATED IN THE EXACT SAME SPOT IN HIS YARD ON THE SIDE YARD.

THE CODE SECTION 18 - 10 120 SETBACKS ERIC SCHERER IS ATTEMPTING TO APPLY IN THIS SITUATION IS SIMPLY INCORRECT.

THE CODE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY APPLY TO MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SUCH AS AIR CONDITIONER UNITS LOCATED AT THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

THE AIR CONDITIONER UNITS IN QUESTION MEET OR EXCEED ALL REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESS.

LIGHT AIR AND VENTILATION AS THEY NOW STAND AND ARE ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT CODE. THE CODE APPLIES TO ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTIONS OR AN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT, NEITHER OF WHICH AN AIR CONDITIONER IS.

FURTHERMORE, ERIC SCHERER'S BEHAVIOR HAS BEEN ABUSIVE, ILLEGITIMATE AND IMMORAL.

WE SECURED A MEETING WITH MR SCHERER ON SEPTEMBER 27TH THE THREE HOMEOWNERS AS WELL AS MYSELF. AND HE WAS HOSTILE, ANTAGONISTIC AND ABUSIVE.

SO MUCH FOR WORKING WITH US.

HE HAD AN AGENDA FOR THE MEETING, NAMELY TO INTIMIDATE AND THREATEN US.

INDEED, WHEN THE CODE DEFICIENCIES WERE POINTED OUT BY MY NEIGHBORS ELLINE GARCIA AND CHARLES MERCIER, WHO ARE ALSO CITY PLANNERS WITH A COMBINED FIFTY TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE BETWEEN THEM. HE BECAME VISIBLY AGITATED, THREATENED TO FIND US ALL ON A DAILY BASIS OF TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND ABRUPTLY LEFT THE ROOM.

I WOULD REQUEST THAT THIS LETTER WOULD ALSO SERVE AS A FORMAL COMPLAINT AGAINST ERIC SCHERER, WHOSE SAVIOR WAS OUTRAGEOUS AND UNPROFESSIONAL.

MR. SCHERER HAS A PROFESSIONAL AS WELL AS A MORAL DUTY TO OUTLINE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE

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BUT HIS ATTITUDE AND ACTIONS HAVE SHOWN HE IS CLEARLY INCAPABLE OF DOING SO.

WHEN WE MADE FURTHER INQUIRIES ABOUT AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING, HE WAS UNAWARE OF HOW THIS MIGHT EVEN OPERATE OR WHO A HEARING OFFICER EVEN WAS.

WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK IT UP OURSELVES.

INDEED, THE HARASSMENT HAS BEEN ONGOING WITH CANDACE BOWCOCK, ERIC SCHERER AND JIM CROOKE CALLING MY WIFE AND ME AT MY HOSPITAL AT LEAST 20 TIMES.

THE CONSTANT STRESS TO THIS ONGOING HARASSMENT HAS ADVERSELY AFFECTED THE HEALTH OF MY WIFE AND MYSELF.

MY NEIGHBORS, WHO ALSO RECEIVED LETTERS, ARE ALL APPALLED AT THE EVENTS THAT HAVE UNFOLDED. ON DECEMBER 23RD, UNIFORMED LA VERNE POLICE OFFICER WAS SENT TO GIVE ME YET ANOTHER CITATION AFTER I HAD FILED AN APPEAL PER THE CITY CODE.

ON DECEMBER 13TH, I FILED AN APPEAL AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WAS THEN ABRUPTLY LOST AFTER TWO CITATIONS.

NOW IT'S UP TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR MY AIR CONDITIONER LOCATION, WHICH HAS BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS.

I AM AGAIN BEING THREATENED WITH MORE FINES.

THIS IS CLEAR MISMANAGEMENT AND EVEN ABUSE OF CITY RESOURCES AND TAXPAYER MONEY.

THIS COULD HAVE IN THE TRUE SPIRIT OF WORKING WITH US AS GOOD NEIGHBORS AND LONGTIME RESIDENTS BEEN SO EASILY RESOLVED WITH A SIMPLE AND QUICK CODE ADDENDUM ADDING A DEFINITION OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT OR ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTIONS OR ELEMENTS.

AS OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE, HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT THE ROUTE THAT ERIC SCHERER HAS CHOSEN.

INSTEAD, HE WASTES CITY RESOURCES TO ACT ON BEHALF OF COMPLETELY BASELESS COMPLAINTS ORIGINATING FROM AN ABSENTEE LANDLORD WHO DOES NOT EVEN LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'VE BEEN GIVEN VARIOUS STORIES FROM CITY STAFF ABOUT WHAT THIS LANDLORD HAS INTENDED.

NONE OF WHICH HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE.

BUILDING A WALL, NOT BUILDING A WALL THAT THE LOCATION OF THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT IS LIMITING THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY.

WHEN THE POLICE OFFICER CAME OUT LAST, HE SAID THAT MY AIR CONDITIONER WAS ACTUALLY ON MY NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY WELL THEIR WOODEN FENCE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS.

THAT SAME WOODEN FENCE IS ACTUALLY BY A FOOT AND A HALF ON MY PROPERTY.

THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

A RECENT PROPERTY SURVEY REVEALS A SIDE PROPERTY LINE FENCE TO BE WHOLLY ON MY PROPERTY.

LOCATION OF THE SIDE FENCE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF THE LEGITIMATE PROPERTY LINE.

THEREFORE, THIS SITUATION IS NOW A CIVIL MATTER BETWEEN TWO HOMEOWNERS, NOT THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY. INDEED, ERIC SCHERER WITH THIS ILLEGITIMATE AND QUESTIONABLE INTERPRETATION OF THE CITY CODE THREW A HAND GRENADE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND UPSET MANY OF OUR WONDERFUL NEIGHBORS.

MR. SCHERER'S, THIS IS HOW WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT EXPLANATION IS SIMPLY NOT VALID.

WHICH CAUSED ME TO SEEK CLARIFICATION FROM A LAND USE ATTORNEY.

AND YOU SHOULD HAVE THE COPY.

THE LAND USE ATTORNEY THAT DEFINES ABOUT THE AIR CONDITIONER.

HERE IS WHAT I'M REQUESTING THE CITY COUNCIL TO ACT UPON.

TO DIRECT STAFF TO CEASE FINING ME FOR AN ILLEGITIMATE INTERPRETATION OF THE ZONING CODE.

TO DIRECT STAFF TO APPROPRIATELY AMEND THE EXISTING CODE AND ALLOW FOR THESE ISSUES OF A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE CURRENT AIR CONDITIONING LOCATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

SOME OF YOU HERE ON THE COUNCIL I'VE TALKED TO BY PHONE OR PERSONALLY OR BOTH.

AND I LIKE TO TRY TO REALLY WORK THIS OUT.

I HAVE LEFT MY PHONE NUMBER WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RENTING THE HOME NEXT TO ME FOR THE LADY WHO OWNS IT.

THE ONE WHO JUST MOVED IN THERE, SHE INHERITED THE HOME APPROXIMATELY A YEAR YEAR AGO.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HER INTENTIONS ARE WITH DOING THIS.

THE AIR CONDITIONER HAS BEEN THERE 20 YEARS.

MY NEIGHBORS HAVE THEIR AIR CONDITIONERS IN THE SAME SPOT AND I KEEP GETTING THESE CITATIONS AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS ELLINE.

ELLINE. COMBINATION OF ELLA AND LORAINNE.

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I LIVE ON COUNTRY CLUB, SIX HOUSES DOWN.

I'M ONE OF THE TARGETED HOMEOWNERS, ALONG WITH DR.

LEE AND DR.

TOM, OF COURSE, AND LINDA VOORHEES, WHO'S NOT HERE.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO ASK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE COMPILATION PACKET THAT WE DELIVERED ON JANUARY 7? WE DELIVERED IT TO THE ADMINISTRATION DESK AND ASKED THAT THEY WERE TO BE DELIVERED TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S MAILBOX.

THEY WERE NOT. I UNDERSTAND NOW THAT DEBRA GAVE THEM TO THE CITY MANAGER.

THEY WERE NOT ADDRESSED TO THE CITY MANAGER.

THEY WERE ADDRESSED TO YOU, WHICH IS WHY MRS. KOKINIS HAS HANDED YOU BASICALLY WHAT THE PACKETS HELD.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE.

WHERE DID THEY GO? GO AHEAD.

AS WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE COUNCIL, THAT PACKET WAS PASSED ON TO CANDICE FOR TO PROVIDE SOME STAFF INPUT ON THE INFORMATION.

IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE COUNCIL THAT IT WAS RECEIVED, BUT THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME CONTEXT PUT TO SEVERAL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ASKED FOR.

THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PASSED ON TO COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE LETTER.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULD BE OKAY WITH SOMEBODY INTERCEPTING COMMUNICATIONS THAT WERE MEANT SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU AND NOT ADDRESSED ANYONE ELSE.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? REALLY? YEAH. WELL, YOU KNOW.

I'VE LIVED IN LA VERNE FOR 50 YEARS.

MY DAD WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

BOB GARCIA. SURE YOU KNOW HIM.

WE ARE NOT HERE TO ARGUE.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO BE TOLD EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

ERIC IS NOT AN ORACLE.

AGAIN, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE OVER 50 YEARS OF CITY PLANNING EXPERIENCE.

I'VE WORKED FOR FIVE DIFFERENT CITIES.

MY HUSBAND WORKS FOR THE CITY OF ONTARIO CURRENTLY.

THE ISSUE AT HAND IS A PIECE OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IN EACH OF OUR YARDS.

THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTIONS OR ELEMENTS.

A DEFINITION OF AN ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTION ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF ONTARIO IS A BUILDING FEATURE THAT IS MOUNTED ON OR EXTENDS FROM THE SURFACE OF THE BUILDING WALL OR FACADE. TYPICALLY, ABOVE GROUND LEVEL EXAMPLES OF ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTIONS INCLUDE BALCONIES, BAY WINDOWS, LIGHTING, FIXTURES, MARQUEES, CANOPIES AND OTHER SIMILAR PROJECTIONS OF A BUILDING.

THIS IS NOT WITH LA VERNE CODE SAYS.

AND BY THE WAY, I'M TELLING YOU HOW LONG I'VE LIVED HERE, YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER LIVES FOUR BLOCKS FROM ME. HE'S A RETIRED POLICE CHIEF FROM AZUSA, ANOTHER BOB GARCIA.

MY MOTHER AND MRS. O'REILLY IS HERE.

I'M RELATED TO ABOUT TWENTY FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.

THE ANDERSONS, THE GARCIAS, THE MERCIERS, THE GRIFFITHS, THE [INAUDIBLE].

WE ARE NOT PEOPLE THAT FLOUT LAWS.

IN FACT, WE ARE PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD BE LUCKY TO HAVE AS NEIGHBORS.

MY DAD WAS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT STARTING IN 1972.

SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A DEEP ATTACHMENT TO THE CITY AND WE DON'T TAKE KINDLY TO BEING TREATED SO RUDELY BY CITY STAFF.

ERIC, WHEN WE SECURED THAT MEETING, HE WAS PALPABLY HOSTILE TO US.

THEN HE HAD A HISSY FIT AND FLOUNCED FROM THE ROOM.

THAT IS WHAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH.

AND CURRENTLY HE IS FINING DR.

TOM A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND SENDING A UNIFORMED OFFICER UP TO ISSUE A CITATION.

WHO DOES THAT? WHAT A WASTE OF OF RESOURCES FOR YOUR CITY.

IT'S JUST I'VE NEVER ENCOUNTERED SUCH A THING.

I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH RUDENESS.

AND IF ANYONE WHO HAD WORKED FOR ME HAD ACTED IN SUCH A WAY, THEY WOULDN'T BE WORKING FOR ME ANYMORE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JUST I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY PUBLIC COMMENT TIME.

THE BROWN ACT DISALLOWS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DIALOGUE WITH WITH YOU.

SO IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO.

WE'RE JUST PROHIBITED FROM.

AND AND I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE WAY THE LAW WORKS, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THE LAW WORKS.

AND I APOLOGIZE.

AND BY THE WAY, YOU HAD A GREAT DAD.

SO, BOB'S A GOOD GUY.

WE WILL TRY AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.

IF I MAY.

JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE BENEFIT OF THOSE.

THE INFORMATION THAT WAS THE COUNCIL HAS THE REST OF THE INFORMATION.

I WOULD ASK YOU TO GO BACK AND REVIEW IT.

THIS IS NOT BEEN A PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN NOT BEEN COMMUNICATED ALL THE WAY THROUGH MY OFFICE AND I HAVE BEEN A PART OF AN ATTEMPT TO GAIN COMPLIANCE.

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SO WE WILL ATTEMPT TO CONTINUE TO GAIN COMPLIANCE.

BUT WE ARE UNFORTUNATELY IN THE ADMIN SIDE PROCESS AT THIS POINT AFTER MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS.

BUT PLEASE REVIEW THE INFORMATION OF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

THANK YOU .

THANKS. I LIVE ON COUNTRY CLUB.

6 1 8. AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS GOT THE SAME CITATION.

AND IN FACT.

OK. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, SIR.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND IN FACT, IN SHORT, MY SHORT TIME DEPENDS ON HOW YOU COUNT THE STREET HOUSE, 20 TO 30 PERCENT OF THE SAME RESIDENTS OF THE SAME STREET.

SAME CITATIONS. IT SURPRISED ME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S [INAUDIBLE] IS THERE.

SECOND, DO WE HAVE A LAW HERE TO REGULATE THIS PART.

BECAUSE CLEARLY WE HAVE IT. WE HAVE THIS SECTION FOR THE SETBACK LAW, YOU KNOW, SEEKING MULTIPLE CODE, IT'S NOT LIKE [INAUDIBLE] NETWORK.

I THINK IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THAT'S ORDINANCE IS ESTABLISHED IN 1987.

WE USE A SPECIAL WORD HERE, ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTION, ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT HERE TO REGULATE SAFETY HERE, I NEED I HOPE THE CITY AND STAFF HAVE FOLLOWED THE LAW, NOT ABOVE THE LAW. JUST FOLLOWED THE LAW.

AND WE USE THIS WORD IN 1987.

THERE MUST SOME REASON. I DIDN'T LEAVE THE CITY AT THAT TIME.

MOST SENIOR PEOPLE MAY KNOW THE REASON WE DO THAT PART, THAT WE DIDN'T USE THE WORD [INAUDIBLE] PROJECTION THERE. AND.

WE HAVE THIS SITUATION HERE AND I DIDN'T REQUEST ANYTHING.

I JUST NEED THE CITY STAFF TO FOLLOW THE LAW WE HAVE.

IF THE LAW IS NOT CLEARLY, LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR.

DEFINITION, DEFINITION, DEFINITION.

I THINK WE TALK ABOUT THIS WORD.

MY TIME TONIGHT DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS HERE.

IF THIS ARCHITECTURAL PROJECTION IS NOT CLEAR, PLEASE MAKE IT CLEAR FOR US.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

DENISE? DENISE KOKINIS.

THIS WHOLE ORDEAL HAS BEEN REALLY HORRIFIC.

WE LIVED IN OUR HOUSE SINCE 1979.

WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS. WE ALWAYS HAVE REALLY NICE NEIGHBORS.

THE HOUSE THAT'S NEXT TO US NOW IS RENTED.

THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE HOUSE OBVIOUSLY HAS SOMETHING TO DO OR IS FRIENDSHIP OR SOMETHING WITH SOMEBODY HERE.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

THERE'S NO REASON WHY I HAVE HAD TO GIVE HER MY PHONE NUMBER SEVERAL TIMES.

THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR ARE RELATED TO HER.

OK. IT'S BEEN CLEAR HARASSMENT FOR YOU, BOB, TO HAVE CANDACE CALLING ME CONSTANTLY, CONSTANTLY, CONSTANTLY TO THE POINT WHERE I HAD TO TELL HER, QUIT CALLING ME OR HARASSING ME. IT'S UGLY.

THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

AND WHY DO YOU KNOW LISA? THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE WHO'S PUSHING YOUR BUTTONS TO KEEP PUSHING THIS AND PUSHING THIS AND PUSHING THIS THROUGH? WHY? WHY IS IT WHEN I BROUGHT THESE ENVELOPES, THE DOCUMENTATIONS? WHY IS IT THAT YOU ENDED UP WITH THEM? I ASKED THE LADY RIGHT OFF.

WOULD YOU ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE? WELL, BECAUSE. THANK YOU.

HE WAS THE ONE THAT ENDED UP WITH ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS.

WHY? WHY? AND THEN CANDACE'S IS GOING PICKING THROUGH IT.

THOSE DOCUMENTS WERE NOT MEANT FOR YOU.

THEY WERE NOT MEANT FOR CANDACE.

THEY WERE MEANT FOR FOR THE MAYOR AND ALL COUNCIL PEOPLE.

WHY? AND THEN NOBODY KNEW WHERE THEY WERE.

ALSO, AN EMAIL IS SENT THAT WAS DISAPPEARED.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ENVELOPES? THAT'S WHY I I GAVE THESE OUT AGAIN.

WHERE ARE THE ENVELOPES THAT WERE SENT? YOU WOULD KNOW, YOU HAD THEM.

THEY WERE GIVEN TO YOU.

WOULD YOU PLEASE JUST ADDRESS TO THE CITY COUNCIL? ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S ANNOYING BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY THIS THING HAS BEEN GOING ON THE

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IT'S HARASSMENT. IT IS.

THERE'S NO CLARIFICATION IN THE CODE.

AND YOU GUYS WON'T YOU GUYS WON'T COME DOWN AND SAY, YEAH, WE GOT TO REDO THE CODE IS IT'S WRONG. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY? I'M ADDRESSING YOU AND NO ONE SAYING ANYTHING.

WE CAN'T. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO.

WHY ARE YOU NOT ALLOWED TO? STATE LAW. A STATE LAW? IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM.

IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION.

YOU'RE SPEAKING UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.

YOU'RE FREE TO SPEAK.

BUT THE COUNCIL CAN NOT ADDRESS YOU AND CANNOT DECIDE THIS MATTER TONIGHT.

PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

WELL, THERE IS A AN APPEAL.

THERE'S AN APPEAL PROCESS FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS AND YOU CAN AVAIL YOURSELF OF THAT.

GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMAN, CLERK, EVERYBODY.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TO THIS AMAZING CITY.

MY NAME IS MESHAL KASH.

KASHIFALGHITA. I AM RUNNING FOR U.S.

HOUSE 32ND DISTRICT CONGRESS.

I WOULD SAY I WANTED YOU TO MATCH THE FACE TO THE NAME, BUT MY MY YARD SIGNS AND BANNERS HAS MY SHINY FACE ALL OVER IT SO SHE COULD SEE A LIVE BODY HERE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT MYSELF.

I STARTED IN THIS CITY.

I WAS A POLICE CADET IN 1994 AND I TAKE GREAT PASSION ABOUT THAT LOVE BEING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

AND AND I SEEN SOME GREAT THINGS IN THIS CITY.

I LOVE OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

I LOVE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS IN THE CITY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO YOU PLEASE ALWAYS CONSIDER PROMISES MADE, IS PROMISES KEPT.

I UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY HAS EARLIER SAID THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THEIR RETIREMENT.

FIRST RESPONDERS DON'T GET PAID FOR WHAT IF WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN? WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND WE'LL TAKE CARE OF OUR CITIZENS.

OUR AMAZING CITIZENS THAT ARE SITTING HERE TODAY WITH ALL THEIR ISSUES.

AND I GO TO EACH CITY COUNCIL AND I HEAR ALL ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ISSUES IN THE CITIES AND THEY'RE GENERALLY ALL THE SAME. THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT ISSUES.

THEY'RE PASSIONATE ISSUES ABOUT 5G PASSIONATE ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT THEIR FIREFIGHTERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT HAPPEN.

SO I JUST ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE WITH THE CITIZENS AND FOR SOMEONE TO CHOOSE MYSELF AGAINST EVERYBODY THAT'S WATCHING.

WATCHING LIVE, I PROBABLY LOST ABOUT FIVE POUNDS THEY SAID OR GAINED 10 POUNDS ON TV.

I'VE BEEN WORKING, BUT I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TO YOU GUYS.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TO LAUGH. EVERYBODY'S SO TENSE IN HERE. I CAME IN HERE SOMEBODY SAID THERE'S A DINOSAUR IN A ROOM.

I THINK SHE WAS RIGHT. THERE WAS DINOSAUR.

BUT I THINK EVERYONE'S JUST SO PASSIONATE.

AND THAT'S OK THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR VETERANS SERVE FOR US.

WE FOUGHT FOR. I'M STILL IN THE MILITARY.

MAJOR U.S. ARMY STATION, LOS ALAMITOS, PROMOTED TO LIEUTENANT COLONEL HOPEFULLY SOMETIME SOON, DEPENDING ON HOW CONGRESS HURRIES UP AND SAYS PROMOTING SOME FOLKS.

BUT THIS IS ME AND I APPRECIATE IT.

I'LL BE AROUND. ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS, CITY COUNCIL HAS ANY COMMENTS.

NOW, YOU COULD SEE THE ACTUAL PERSON WHO'S BEEN RUNNING HOPEFULLY REPRESENT THE CITY AND 13 OTHER AMAZING CITIES IN THIS DISTRICT.

THANK YOU, KASH. GOD BLESS YOU.

AND THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU. STAY STRONG. S TAY ARMY STRONG.

IF YOU'RE IN THE NAVY, YOU'D DO BETTER.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ISSUE? FILL THIS CARD HERE SHORTLY FOR YOU. MY NAME'S DANNY MONTOYA, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IN MAY OF 2019, THE CITY AND THE FIREFIGHTERS UNION SETTLED A FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR FEDERAL AND STATE LAWSUIT PERTAINING TO FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATION AND INVASION OF PRIVACY.

I WISH I WAS HERE TO ADVISE YOU THAT THOSE INCIDENTS ARE IN THE PAST.

SADLY, I'M NOT. WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY IS A CRISIS OF TRUST.

THE CITY HAS TIME AND AGAIN VIOLATED THE TERMS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT FOR NOT PURGING FILES TO INSINUATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON PROMOTIONS.

THEY HAVE ALSO IMPLEMENTED THEIR TACTICS OF ILLEGAL ORDERS.

AGAIN, AFTER THE LAWSUIT, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH COUNCILWOMAN CARTER AND THOUGHT I'D. AND THOUGH I BELIEVE THIS WAS A GESTURE OF GOOD FAITH ON BOTH SIDES, THE

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COUNCILWOMAN CARTER ASKED ME AND I QUOTE, CAN YOU AND THE ASSOCIATION NOT GET INVOLVED IN THE ELECTION BECAUSE I AM SUPPORTING DON.

AND THINGS WILL GET UGLY.

REMEMBER THE BROWN ACT? I WAS COMPLETELY DUMBFOUNDED AND ASKED HER IF SHE HAD READ THE LAWSUIT, WHICH SHE REPLIED.

SOME OF IT. I CONTINUE ADVISE TO ADVISE THAT SUPPORTING A CANDIDATE IS THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE A VOICE, AND IT IS ILLEGAL FOR WHO TO ASK SUCH A REQUEST.

IT DIDN'T STOP THERE. SHE CONTINUED TO ASK MULTIPLE FIREFIGHTERS AND ASSOCIATION MEMBERS THE SAME QUESTION ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.

FAST FORWARD TO THE WEEK OF JANUARY 6TH 2020.

JIM MURPHY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH FIRE CHIEF LEONARD, AND DURING THAT CONVERSATION THREATENED TO, QUOTE UNQUOTE, TAKE OUT MONTOYA [INAUDIBLE].

I HAVE VERY AWARE OF MR. MURPHY'S AFFILIATION WITH THE EX FIRE CHIEF.

COUNCILWOMAN CARTER. AND YOU, MR. MAYOR, DO YOU CONDONE THIS THREAT OR DO YOU PUBLICLY DISAVOW IT? FAST FORWARD TO JANUARY 13TH, TWENTY TWENTY, DURING A STAFF MEETING, THE INTERIM FIRE CHIEF ISSUED AN ORDER FROM THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTING HIM AND OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS TO ADVISE ALL MEMBERS THAT THEY ARE NOT TO ATTEND ANY POLITICAL FORMS ON DUTY.

THEY ARE ALSO RESTRICTED FROM PARKING ON CITY PROPERTY IF THEIR VEHICLES DISPLAY ANY TYPE OF SUPPORT FOR A POLITICAL CANDIDATE.

WE HAD A DISCUSSION AS TO THE LEGALITY OF SUCH A REQUEST TO WHICH THE FIRE CHIEF REPLIED.

THAT IS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER TOLD US AT THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.

THIS WAS AN ILLEGAL ORDER.

ALL THREE BATTALION CHIEFS AGREED, AND I STATED IT WAS AN ORDER I WOULD NOT FOLLOW, OUR FIRE CHIEF RESPONDED TO T HE CITY MANAGER WITH OUR CONCERNS.

FINALLY, YOU DECIDED TO CHANGE YOUR STANCE AND ARE ALLOWING EMPLOYEES TO ATTEND FORUMS. BUT WHY DID IT HAVE TO COME TO THIS? DID YOU NOT LEARN ANYTHING FROM THE PAST THREE YEARS? I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THIS ISN'T THE KINGDOM OF DON KENDRICK AND BOB RUSSI.

YOU DON'T MAKE THE LAWS. YOU FOLLOW THEM AS IF THIS ISN'T ENOUGH.

THE CITY HAD TO BROWN OUT A FIRE STATION AND YOU BLAME EVERYONE BUT YOURSELVES.

YOU POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND I QUOTE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BROWN OUT FIRE STATION 3 DUE TO A SHORTAGE OF FIREMEN TO OPERATE THE STATION.

WE HAVE NINE FIRE PERSONNEL OUT, FIVE FOR INJURIES, FOUR FOR SICKNESS.

ROBIN, THAT IS COMPLETELY FALSE.

WE ARE SHORT FIVE POSITIONS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE VACANT.

WE LOST EIGHT PEOPLE, EIGHT GREAT PEOPLE, PERIOD.

THEY HAVE GONE TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND WE HAVE FOUR ON INJURY, TWO FIREFIGHTERS AND TWO ENGINEERS WITH THE FIVE SHORTAGES TOTALING NINE.

WE ARE CONSTANTLY HIRING AND RECRUITING MEMBERS .

I'M SORRY. WE ARE CONSTANTLY HIRING AND OUR RECRUITMENT NUMBERS ARE ATROCIOUS.

EITHER YOU ARE BLATANTLY LYING TO COVER UP YOUR INCOMPETENCE OR YOU DIDN'T READ WHAT THE FIRE CHIEF PUT OUT. THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH.

WE CAN ATTRACT. WE CANNOT ATTRACT NEW PEOPLE, NOR ATTRACT NOR RETAIN PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT YOU HAVE CREATED AND THE LACK OF COMPARABLE PAY AND BENEFITS.

THIS NOT ONLY CREATES A DISGRUNTLED WORKFORCE, IT CREATES AN UNSAFE WORK ENVIRONMENT PER NFPA 1710 , WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE 15 FIREFIGHTERS ON A STRUCTURE FIRE.

WE ARE NOW DOWN TO NINE, INCLUDING THE ON-DUTY BATTALION CHIEF.

MY QUESTION TO YOU TONIGHT IS THIS.

ARE YOU PROUD OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO THE CITY UNDER YOUR WATCH? YOU HAVE SETTLED A FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT FOR FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS AND RETALIATION TOWARD FIREFIGHTERS FOR SUPPORTING A CANDIDATE.

YOU HAVE SETTLED LAWSUITS BY MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TEMPORARILY CLOSE THE FIRE STATION, DECREASE PAY AND BENEFITS TOWARD YOUR FIREFIGHTERS, PAID THE EX FIRE CHIEF GREATER THAN TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO GO AWAY.

COMPLETELY DISREGARDED THE OPINIONS AND BELIEFS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

AND THAT ISN'T ENOUGH. YOU'VE PROPOSED A TAX INCREASE TO TEN AND A QUARTER PERCENT, INSINUATING THAT IT WILL GO TO POLICE AND FIRE BUT WON'T IDENTIFY HOW MUCH.

THEN, TO TOP IT OFF, YOU EXTEND THE CONTRACT TO THE CITY MANAGER WHO IS DIRECTLY TO BLAME FOR A MAJORITY OF THESE ISSUES.

YOU ARE THE EPITOME OF STANDARD POLITICIANS.

YOU COVER FOR ONE ANOTHER.

BURY YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND.

AND WHEN THINGS DON'T ADD UP.

YOU PUT A TAX ON THE PEOPLE AND YOU WONDER WHY THE EMPLOYEES AND CITIZENS ARE IRATE.

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.

[APPLAUSE].

SO ANYBODY ELSE STILL WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? WAIT, WAIT JUST A MINUTE.

I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD OF DEFLECTION, AND I THINK WE JUST HEARD DEFLECTION UP HERE JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO. I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT THE CHIEF ON FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME, WE HEARD AN HONEST, FORTHRIGHT, PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT BY ONE OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS COMING UP HERE. WE DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT GUYS GETTING UP HERE AND BAD MOUTHING, ASSASSINATING THE

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AND NOT ONLY DID THEY JUST ASSASSINATE HIS CHARACTER AND THAT HE KNEW WHAT THE DUE PROCESS WAS, HE COULD NOT RESPOND TO IT.

HE STOOD THERE AND HE TOOK IT.

AND WHEN A GUY STANDS THERE AND TAKES IT, WELL, KEEP WILL KEEP POUNDING ON HIM AND PILING ON HIM AND ASSASSINATE HIS CHARACTER IN PUBLIC.

THAT'S BULLYING. I'LL TELL YOU, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF FIREFIGHTERS HERE. ALL MOST, NEARLY ALL OF THEM.

THEY'VE GOT THE JOB AND THEY'RE PROFESSIONAL.

THEY'VE BEEN IN MY HOUSE. THEY TAKE CARE OF MY WIFE.

IT TOOK HER TO THE HOSPITAL.

BUT PROFESSIONALISM IS NOT SOMETHING YOU TAKE OFF.

PUT ON A HANGER AT THE END OF YOUR END OF YOUR DAY.

TOUR OF DUTY IS SOMETHING ABOUT NOT ONLY WHAT YOU DO, IT'S HOW YOU DO IT, BUT IT'S ALSO WHO YOU ARE. IT'S A CORE VALUE IN IT.

AND IT UPSETS ME WHEN WHEN A PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER GETS UP AND IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM. IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM.

EVERYBODY ELSE IS TO BLAME.

WHY ARE WE LOSING THESE? WHY DO WE LOSE FIVE FIREFIGHTERS IN 2019? DO WE HAVE A HOSTILE WORKING ENVIRONMENT? I THINK WE JUST HAD AN INDICATION WE MIGHT.

THANK YOU. HE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO .

TALK ABOUT THE POLICE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALSO ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO.

EXCUSE ME. TWO MONTHS AGO I HAD A PROBLEM WITH MY HEART AND DECIDED NOT TO DO WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY COME OUT OF THE HOUSE, TOOK CARE OF ME FOR MINUTE RESPONSE TIME, GOT ME OVER TO THE HOSPITAL.

I'M HERE NOW WITH THE PACEMAKER.

THOSE GUYS WERE GREAT.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU. AND THEN ONE MORE THING ON TAXES, IF YOU WANT TO SAVE A LOT OF MONEY ON TAXES.

VOTE GOVERNOR NEWSOM OUT OF BUSINESS.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL CITY STAFF, I DON'T KNOW WHERE BRUCE WENT, BUT YOU GUYS EVER SEE HIM AT [INAUDIBLE] LET THEM KNOW.

MY NAME'S MARK. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, MY NAME'S MARK GUTIERREZ.

AND I AM SPEAKING AS BOTH A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF LA VERNE AND ALSO AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE LA VERNE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

I AM HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF MEASURE LV.

OUR ASSOCIATION AND A DEDICATED GROUP OF COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS ARE WORKING EFFORTLESSLY TO INFORM OUR COMMUNITY HOW CRITICAL THIS TAX IS TO OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. I LIKE ABOUT A QUARTER OF OUR POLICE PATROL OFFICERS GREW UP HERE IN LA VERNE.

I AM A DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANT SERVANT WHO IS PROUD TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK AND PROTECT THE CITY THAT RAISED ME.

OUR DEPARTMENT HAS FEWER OFFICERS THAN WHEN I WAS HIRED 16 YEARS AGO.

WITH RECENT CHANGES IN STATE LAW, WE ARE NOW FIGHTING HARDER THAN EVER TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS FROM AN INCREASING THREAT WITH FEWER RESOURCES.

WE HAVE MADE CONCESSIONS IN OUR COMPENSATION AND CONTRACTS IN AN EFFORT TO WORK WITHIN THE MEANS OF THE CITY.

THE CITY HAS ASKED US TO DO OUR PART AND WE HAVE.

WE ARE NOW ASKING THE CITIZENS TO DO THEIR PART.

I ASK YOU TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH YOUR POLICE OFFICERS AND VOTE YES ON MEASURE LV.

OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, OUR ASSOCIATION AND OTHER CITIZENS WILL BE WALKING DOOR TO DOOR ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

WE WILL BE THERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, CONCERNS YOU MAY HAVE.

IF YOU SEE US, PLEASE STOP AND SAY HI.

ALSO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN US OR DONATE TO OUR CAUSE, YOU CAN GO TO OUR COMMITTEE WEB SITE AT WWW.SECURE LAVERNE .COM.

I DO REALIZE THERE ARE MANY PASSIONATE ISSUES TO BE DEBATED WITHIN OUR CITY TO INCLUDE THE FUTURE OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

HOWEVER, ONE THING EVERYONE STANDING IN FRONT OF ME HERE AGREES ON IS VOTING YES ON LV

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WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN VOTING YES ON LV.

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE MEASURE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MARK.

LOT OF PASSION IN THE ROOM TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS JEFF PETERSON.

I'M A 58 YEAR RESIDENT, 3 YEAR EMPLOYEE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I'M HERE MAINLY TO DISCUSS THE BROWN OUT THE CLOSE OF STATION 3.

I BUILT A HOME BACK IN 1991 '92 AND I PAID SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS ALONG WITH ALL MY OTHER PERMITS TO GO TO A FIRE FACILITY FEE TO BUILD A FIRE STATION.

BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

I HAD VARIOUS TALKS WITH PRIOR OR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER REGARDING IT.

CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT A BROWN OUT.

CALL IT A CLOSE UP. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE ARE NOT FIREFIGHTERS THERE, THERE ARE NO MEDICS THERE. SO WE CAN EUPHEMIZE THE NAME A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE ARE NO MEDICS THERE.

OK. SHOULD WE HAVE FIREFIGHTERS THERE? WE USED TO ARGUE THAT WE LOST THAT ARGUMENT.

OUR FIREFIGHTERS WERE PASSIONATE ABOUT TRYING TO GET FIREFIGHTERS UP THERE.

WE NEEDED MORE FIREFIGHTERS TO MEET NFPA.

THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. WE LOST THAT BATTLE.

WE GOT TWO PARAMEDICS UP THERE.

THEY DIDN'T HIRE TWO ADDITIONAL AT THE TIME.

THEY TOOK THEM FROM STATION TO A REAPPORTIONMENT, IF YOU WILL, OK.

AS I WORKED, I WAS INVOLVED IN MANY OF THESE ISSUES.

THEY WEREN'T JUST ABOUT SALARY AND RETIREMENT AND BENEFITS FOR FIREFIGHTERS.

THEY WERE ABOUT ISSUES THAT MADE US SAFER AND A BETTER DEPARTMENT.

EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCHERS.

WE TRIED FOR THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

20, 30 YEARS.

IT WAS ALWAYS THERE. WE TRIED TO GET STAFFING FOR OUR TRUCK BACK IN 1991.

WE DEVELOPED A MELLOW-ROOS WITH SAN PAULO DEVELOPMENT IN COAL DEVELOPMENT COLLECTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THAT FEE.

I'M NOT SURE IF CURRENT CITY MANAGERS ARE AWARE OF THAT, BUT WE COLLECTED A LOT OF MONEY.

GOT A NICE LADDER TRUCK, BUT WE DIDN'T GET ANY BODIES FOR IT.

OUR LADDER TRUCK IN TOWN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS NOT STAFFED.

IT IS NOT STAFFED.

IT HAS NOT EVER BEEN STAFFED.

NOBODY HAS A LADDER TRUCK THAT SITS.

NOW , THE ONLY TIME WE GET STAFFED IS WHEN WE PUT BODIES ON IT.

IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE IN QUARTERS, THEY JUMP OVER TO THE TRUCK.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING STILL.

BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, IT HAS NEVER BEEN STAFFED.

WE HAVE TWO FIRE ENGINES THAT ARE STAFFED.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TRUCK ON STRUCTURE FIRES.

THERE ARE DUTIES THEY CAN DO THAT ENGINE COMPANIES CANNOT DO.

AND YOU NEED THOSE PEOPLE THERE.

SO I SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO STATION STATION 3 BEING SHUT DOWN.

I HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PAST CHIEF [INAUDIBLE], THE PAST CITY MANAGER AND I ALSO PERSONALLY PAID IN, AS I MENTIONED.

BUT THERE WERE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS COLLECTED UP THERE AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST KIND OF WRITING THIS THING OFF.

EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT WITH A POLITICAL ANSWER, SAYING, WELL, IT'S JUST A BROWNOUT. IT'S ONLY FOR SIX WEEKS.

WHEN IS THIS STUFF GOING TO STOP? YOU TALK ABOUT THE FRUSTRATION WITH THESE THESE FIREFIGHTERS.

THIS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

IT'S ABOUT LEGITIMACY.

IT'S NOT ABOUT SALARY.

IT'S NOT ABOUT OVERTIME.

IT'S ABOUT LEGITIMACY.

THAT'S ALL I EVER WANTED TO HEAR.

I WOULD. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SO DOGGONE FRUSTRATING TO SEE PEOPLE GET UP AND AND AND MISS THE MARK WITH THIS THING. THIS KIND OF STUFF HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.

IT DIDN'T JUST START WITH MR. HEPBURN. IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME AND IT'S TIME EVERY ONE OF YOU FOLKS SITTING UP HERE GETS A HOLD OF THIS AND FIXES IT.

QUICK. IT'S IT'S IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS JEREMY CONRAD AT 24 17 BONITA.

JEREMY. IF YOU JUST TILT THAT AND JUST PULL IT BACK A LITTLE BIT, IT MIGHT WORK.

[03:15:02]

DO I LOOK LIKE A HUNCHBACK STILL? ALL RIGHT. I'M LOUD. IT'LL WORK.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. COUNCIL MAYOR, CITY STAFF AND MOST OF ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS ARE HERE BEHIND ME TODAY. MY COMMENTS ARE TO FOCUS ON THE UPCOMING MEASURE, LV.

AND LIKE MOST THINGS IN POLITICS TODAY, THIS IS A BIPARTISAN ISSUE HERE IN LA VERNE.

THAT TRANSLATES TO BOTH TIM AND DON ARE IN FAVOR OF IT.

FOR MY CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS IN THE ROOM, THE SIMPLEST ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF THIS IS THAT IT'S FOCUSING ON KEEPING OUR TAX DOLLARS UNDER LOCAL CONTROL.

THE MEASURE CREATES A CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMISSION.

I SEE MUCH CONCERN OF THE WAY THIS WILL BE SPENT.

AND IF YOU'RE CONCERNED AND YOU HAVE A BACKGROUND IN FINANCE OR ACCOUNTING, THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY, JUST LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR YOU TO APPLY FOR THIS POSITION AND EXPRESS THOSE CONCERNS IN THOSE DIRECTIONS.

FOR MYSELF, I GOT INVOLVED BECAUSE I'M A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE.

I KNOW THE CONCESSIONS HAVE BEEN MADE WITHIN THIS ROOM BY ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND ESPECIALLY PUBLIC SAFETY.

I DON'T THINK ARE SUSTAINABLE.

I KNOW THEY'RE NOT SUSTAINABLE.

CLEARLY, IF WE'RE LOSING THAT MANY FIREFIGHTERS, THIS IS UNSUSTAINABLE.

IS IT COMPLETELY DUE TO COMPENSATION? NO. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AND THEY'VE BEEN MISUSED AND MISTREATED.

AND THAT'S HOW I STARTED COMING TO THESE MEETINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

BUT I SEE A LOT OF THINGS ONLINE ABOUT WHAT PUBLIC EMPLOYEES GET AND HOW THEY'RE JUST LOOKING OUT FOR A HANDOUT.

THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT AREN'T SAFETY IN TOWN ALREADY WORK A REDUCED 36 HOUR WORKWEEK.

THE CITY TRIES TO PAY A MEDIAN HOURLY WAGE THAT PUTS THEM ABOUT NINE OR 10 PERCENT BELOW THE MARKET AVERAGE OF ALL OF OUR COMPETITORS AROUND US.

ALL NEW HIRE EMPLOYEES ALREADY CONTRIBUTE TWELVE PERCENT OF THEIR OWN MONEY TOWARDS THIS RETIREMENT THAT ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH [INAUDIBLE] WHICH ALL CITIES THAT ARE USING PERS ARE WITH. OUR CITY IS NOT OUT OF LINE.

NOT LOW OR NOT HIGHER THEY'RE WITH ALL OF OUR COMPETITORS THAT USE PERS.

THIS CAN'T COMPETE WITH L.A.

COUNTY, ORANGE COUNTY FIRE, LAFD, THE S HERIFFS BECAUSE THEY USE DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS.

THE CITY SALARIES WERE FROZEN FROM 2017 UP UNTIL THIS MONTH.

WE'RE COUPLE YEARS BEHIND FOR A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND A LOT OF OUR OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES.

FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS WEATHERED BIG REDUCTIONS IN COMPENSATION AND THE CITY OF POLICE AS IT WAS ADDRESSED. NOW HAS 10 FEWER PEOPLE THAN THEY DID OVER 10 YEARS AGO TO ADDRESS EVER RISING CRIME AND CRIMINALS BEING RELEASED FROM JAIL EARLIER THAN EVER.

NOW, WE MAY NOT ALL AGREE HOW THINGS SHOULD BE SPENT, BUT MY REASON FOR BEING HERE IS I BELIEVE WE CAN'T BEGIN TO FIX THE PROBLEMS. WHOEVER YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR IN THIS ROOM OR WHOEVER IS NOT IN THIS ROOM.

YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO SUCCEED.

I WAS GOING TO RUN FOR COUNCIL WHEN I REALIZED NO ONE IS TAKING THIS UP.

AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO DO WAS GET ELECTED AS A PUBLIC SERVANT MYSELF, HOLDING THE HATCHET OVER MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

WITH THAT STAND, WITH OUR POLICE AND OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES AND MYSELF AND HELP TO SECURE LA VERNE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JEREMY.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? OK. MR. MAYOR, BEFORE YOU GO ON THERE, JUST GOING BACK TO THE COUNTRY CLUB ISSUE THAT I THINK NEED TO BE COMMENTED ON.

BECAUSE I THINK THERE WERE SOME DISPARAGING COMMENTS.

WE DID NOT GO LOOKING FOR THIS ISSUE OF STAFF.

IT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY A RESIDENT THAT NOBODY KNEW.

NOBODY KNOWS.

IT'S AFFECTING THEIR ABILITY TO ENJOY THEIR PROPERTY.

OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

IT'S NOT YOUR TURN. OUR CITY ATTORNEY, NOT MR. KRESS, BUT HIS ASSOCIATE HAS LOOKED AT IT.

AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THE CODE THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER BY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY.

AND ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GETTING COMPLIANCE.

SO IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS TRYING TO HARASS ABOUT OR DO ANYTHING IN THAT REGARD. AND I FEEL IT NECESSARY TO DEFEND THEM AND THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO UPHOLD THE CODES THAT EXIST. WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRY AND GAIN COMPLIANCE TO THE EASIEST WAY POSSIBLE. BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. OK.

[10. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND CONFERENCE/MEETING REPORTS]

JIM, WHY DON'T YOU START. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THESE ISSUES ARE RATHER COLORFUL, BUT I WANT TO THANK DAN KEESEY AND HIS STAFF FOR ESPERANZA, THE PATHWAY FOR ESPERANZA, AND THAT WE HAD A SECTION BY THE NATURE PARK ON GOLDEN HILLS THAT WAS JUST BASICALLY DIRT.

AND ONE OF THE RE SIDENTS DAN SPERLING HAD MENTIONED, HEY, WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS? I MENTIONED IT TO DAN AND THEY TALKED.

AND LO AND BEHOLD, A YEAR LATER, WE HAVE A WALKWAY THAT COVERS FROM THE NATURAL PARK ALL THE WAY UP TO THE NEW HOMES NOW BEYOND AROUND ESPERANZA OR CURVES TO ESPERANZA, WHICH PROTECTS PEOPLE'S LIVES BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY WALKING IN THE STREET ON A THOROUGHFARE.

SO THANK YOU, CITY STAFF.

IT'S JUST IT'S AMAZING. IT'S REALLY GREAT.

THANK YOU. AND IT'S SAFER.

[03:20:12]

AND LAST WEEK, I SPENT A WEEK IN BED WITH THE FLU.

FORTUNATELY, I'M OVER THE FLU.

IT ONLY LASTED FIVE DAYS FOR ME SINCE I HAD A FLU SHOT.

SO I'M HERE TO TELL YOU IT'S NOT TOO LATE.

GO GET YOUR FLU SHOT.

IT'S ALL THE ENERGY YOU HAVE.

CHARLIE .

YOU THINK I WOULD LEARN BUT THIS TIME I ONCE AGAIN AGREED TO GO TO LUNCH WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY.

AFTER THE LAWSUIT AGREED TO MEET WITH MIKE MESSINA, THE INTERIM FIRE CHIEF AND THE HEAD OF THE ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS ANDY GLAZE.

WE HAD LUNCH. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW CAN WE MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

WE WORKED ON IT AT THAT TIME.

I WORKED TALKED TO ANDY IN FRONT OF THOSE TWO GENTLEMEN AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO? AND I AND HE TOLD ME THERE'S GONNA BE A PANCAKE BREAKFAST.

WE'RE DOING A SAFETY FAIR, YOU KNOW.

AND I SAID I'D LOVE TO BE A PART OF IT.

SO WITH THAT.

AND THEN SHORTLY LATER, I SAW MONTOYA DOWNTOWN AT ONE OF OUR STREET FAIRS.

AND I ASKED HIM IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MEET FOR LUNCH.

AND SO SOME TIME WENT BY.

AND THEN HE CALLED ME AND ASKED IF WE COULD MEET.

AND, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS LET THE CITY STAFF KNOW WHAT I'M DOING BECAUSE I'M GOING BY MYSELF. AND I FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE I WANTED TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.

IT WAS AN EFFORT. I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING.

AND SO WE I THOUGHT WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE CITY.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING COUNTY.

YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR A CITY? THAT WAS A BIG THING ON HIS MIND.

HE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

AND SO I LISTENED.

I THOUGHT THE CONVERSATION WENT GOOD.

WE HAD AN HOUR LUNCH.

THEN AT THE END, HE SAID, DO I HAVE ANYTHING TO ASK? AND I SAID, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STAYS OUT OF THE CITY ELECTION. THAT'S ALL I SAID.

AND SO IT WAS A CONVERSATION.

I EVEN ASKED THAT OF ANDY IN FRONT OF THE TWO GENTLEMEN.

IT WAS THAT BASIC.

AND TO BE BLOWN UP LIKE THIS, I JUST.

IS NOT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD.

LET'S LET'S PUT THIS BEHIND US.

LET'S MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD AND WORK TOGETHER.

WE'RE NOT GOING COUNTY RIGHT NOW.

LET'S WORK ON THIS CITY.

THANK YOU, ROBIN. I AGREE.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON ALLOWING US TO LEARN EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, WITH THE WITH THE BROWNOUT, TEMPORARY CLOSING OF IT AND SO FORTH. WE NEED TO GET BACK TO GETTING THAT STATION OPEN.

AS YOU SAID, AND WE ALL KNOW AND THIS IS A ISSUE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE UP THERE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I RAN A BUSINESS, I RUN BEEN IN THE BUSINESS WORLD SINCE I WAS A LITTLE BOY WORKING FOR MY PARENTS.

AND WHEN I GOT TO THE POINT THAT I STARTED HAVING A COMPANY THAT I WAS RUNNING WITH OVER 50 EMPLOYEES, I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIRING, FOR RECRUITING, HIRING, TRAINING, MAINTAINING A STAFF. AND I THINK THAT RESPONSIBILITY IS IN EVERY ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WE HAVE SUCH A RECRUITMENT PROBLEM WITH FIRE WHEN THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANT TO BE FIREFIGHTERS.

AND I JUST WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER TO CREATE THE ATMOSPHERE THAT LA VERNE HAS ENJOYED FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

AND WE'LL ENJOY FOR THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS IF EVERY ONE OF US CARES ENOUGH TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. OK, WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM ELEVEN.

[11. CLOSED SESSION:]

IT IS UNDER GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 54956.9 SUB SECTION D1 AND THE LISTED CASES ARE THERE.

AND IT'S CONFERENCE WITH THE LEGAL COUNCIL ON EXISTING LITIGATION.

WE WILL RECESS TO A CLOSED SESSION.

WE WILL ADJOURN ON A CLOSED SESSION.

OUR NEXT MEETING IS FEBRUARY 3RD AT 6:30.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.